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    BMW iX - New Era, New EV Flagship

      BMW and Electric Cars, Take iX!

    BMW announced today their new flagship electrical SUV, the BMW iX. This SUV will launch late in 2021 as a 2022 model. The style will likely be controversial as it retains the concepts overly large kidney grill front end but maintains a sleek drag coefficient of 0.25 Cd which is equal to the Tesla X.

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    This AWD SUV has one motor per axles giving a combined 370 kW or 500 horsepower with a 0 to 62 mph of under 5 seconds. A 100 kW battery pack that will give 600 kilometers on the WLTP cycle or 300 plus miles on the EPA cycle FTP-75. These figures are subject to change once official testing is done.

    The BMW iX has a 200 kW charging controller for DC fast charging that will allow up to 80% charged battery in 40 minutes equaling about 75 miles of range every 10 min. For level 2 home charging, it will take less than 11hrs for a full battery recharge from zero.

    The interior is a appears to be a two tone renewable material based on past comments from BMW. They have gone with a minimalist interior, but using what appears to be jewel like controls for the doors and center console. One observation is the metal rings in the top section of the seats just below the headrest.

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    One does have to wonder if shorter drivers and front passengers might not hit their head on this. An interesting trend as we have seen Cadillac do this with the speakers built into the sides of the Head rest area on the seats.

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    BMW announced in 2019 that they would have a dozen EVs by 2025 which was later revised to be 25 new electrified models on sale by 2023, majority will be pure ev.

     

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    Over all, I love the EV powertrain, interior is not bad, but I do have some concerns about the metal piece in the center of the head rest. Exterior is not bad over all except for the MASSIVE SPINKTER on the front of the auto. WTF BMW! 🙄

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    'iX' ... does that mean '9'? How are BMW folk going to know where this slots without a kindergarten numbering scheme?

    0-60 is slow for a flagship EV; X6 does it in 4.6 already. Isn't this supposed to be noticeably quicker as an electric?

    The interior bits are T-A-C-K-Y!
    That one panel with the white lettering on what 100% looks like plastic wood is garbage. Here; '82 Merc :

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    The denim upholstery (with the schizo stitching) ... haven't seen that since the '70s Gremlins. The 'crystal' buttons I haven't seen since the '81-83 Imperial hood ornament.

    it LOOKS like it should slot in around the X3 level, but because BMW is going to have to charge $75 grand for it, the loyalist (again; lacking a number) are going to be bewildered into paralysis.

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    1 hour ago, balthazar said:

    'iX' ... does that mean '9'? How are BMW folk going to know where this slots without a kindergarten numbering scheme?

    Yeah...that is kinda stupid. But we knew that from awhile ago.

    #3 for sedans.  #4 for coupes.  Then they got the 4 door coupe thing plus they have the lifted hatch GT/CUV/station wagon thing...    Not to mention the nonsensical  engine displacement number system...    

    Oh...I forgot.  The M sport cars that just have M badging and nothing else then the got the M-light cars and then the fully on sport M cars...  

    The idiotic iX naming scheme has  nothing to do with the vehicle itself. 

    1 hour ago, balthazar said:

    0-60 is slow for a flagship EV; X6 does it in 4.6 already. Isn't this supposed to be noticeably quicker as an electric?

    Is this really a flagship tho?

    0-60 in less than whatever seconds is a non-issue.  Yes its BMW and it should  BE  a selling point, especially in comparison to a Tesla Model Y, but maybe we should get off of the speed performance numbers just a tad.  

    Not defending BMW here, because I do acknowledge this particular Bimmer gets its lunch eaten with even ICE cars in this 0-60 performance criteria, but in reality, 0-60 in under 5 seconds in the real world is pretty darn good regardless.

    The EV stuff, if Bimmer's marketing numbers are gonna do exactly as they say it will do, while not Tesla beating numbers, they arent that shabby.   I dont care enough for it to see how much this will sell for, but if it undercuts the Tesla Model Y by a good margin, well, it be a good start to actually sell some copies to the EV people. If this thing costs as much or more, its DOA.  

    I aint gonna comment on the looks of it because, well...  There is nothing I will say that correctly describes how it looks.  (its horrid, but so are the other Bimmers that have gone in production since the last decade or so.

    Its horrid?

    Lets be honest.   It aint that bad...

    Its on par with every other ICE or EV Bimmer to come out since a decade now. 

    If we are honest with ourselves (right Blu?)  its just as much of a joke as an ICE X3 or X1.

    If we wont bitch about those, then the iX is on par with what Bimmer has been doing all along since the turn of this century.  

    (hence the downvote Blu...because I havent read anything negative about the X1 or X3 from your way...) 

     (talking to Balthy while indirectly directing this to another poster...)

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    13 hours ago, ocnblu said:

    I knew it.  The downvote wasn't thought out properly, just like other, uh... recent downvotes on a somewhat larger scale...

    (Recalls your LONG history of downvotes without explanation and thinks maybe you need to pick better battles to fight, where you don't look like a hypocrite.)

     

    About the BMW, that exterior is absolutely hideous nonsense. Design wise, they jumped the shark years ago though.

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    12 hours ago, oldshurst442 said:

    Yeah...that is kinda stupid. But we knew that from awhile ago.

    #3 for sedans.  #4 for coupes.  Then they got the 4 door coupe thing plus they have the lifted hatch GT/CUV/station wagon thing...    Not to mention the nonsensical  engine displacement number system...    

    Oh...I forgot.  The M sport cars that just have M badging and nothing else then the got the M-light cars and then the fully on sport M cars...  

    The idiotic iX naming scheme has  nothing to do with the vehicle itself. 

    Is this really a flagship tho?

    0-60 in less than whatever seconds is a non-issue.  Yes its BMW and it should  BE  a selling point, especially in comparison to a Tesla Model Y, but maybe we should get off of the speed performance numbers just a tad.  

    Not defending BMW here, because I do acknowledge this particular Bimmer gets its lunch eaten with even ICE cars in this 0-60 performance criteria, but in reality, 0-60 in under 5 seconds in the real world is pretty darn good regardless.

    The EV stuff, if Bimmer's marketing numbers are gonna do exactly as they say it will do, while not Tesla beating numbers, they arent that shabby.   I dont care enough for it to see how much this will sell for, but if it undercuts the Tesla Model Y by a good margin, well, it be a good start to actually sell some copies to the EV people. If this thing costs as much or more, its DOA.  

    I aint gonna comment on the looks of it because, well...  There is nothing I will say that correctly describes how it looks.  (its horrid, but so are the other Bimmers that have gone in production since the last decade or so.

    Its horrid?

    Lets be honest.   It aint that bad...

    Its on par with every other ICE or EV Bimmer to come out since a decade now. 

    If we are honest with ourselves (right Blu?)  its just as much of a joke as an ICE X3 or X1.

    If we wont bitch about those, then the iX is on par with what Bimmer has been doing all along since the turn of this century.  

    (hence the downvote Blu...because I havent read anything negative about the X1 or X3 from your way...) 

     (talking to Balthy while indirectly directing this to another poster...)

    Flagship is what BMW has in their press release. 

    I suspect the 0 to 62 mph under 5 seconds is so they can continue to tweak the controllers and I would expect a final figure to be around 4 seconds with the M edition being under 3 seconds.

    I know BMW has always had their EV family on the i moniker but to me they could and should have just put it into the existing family as a X5e SUV which would have made more sense to me.

    Will be interesting to see final numbers once they release for actual sale.

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    5 minutes ago, balthazar said:

    Question is; is this a flagship of BEV SUVS (of which there are none at BMW), or the flagship for ALL BMW SUVs, in which case where does that leave the X7??

    Flagship of the BEV SUVs is how I took it.  The X7 is still the Big Dog flagship SUV, until the X8 (coupe SUV) arrives for 2022. 

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    14 minutes ago, balthazar said:

    Question is; is this a flagship of BEV SUVS (of which there are none at BMW), or the flagship for ALL BMW SUVs, in which case where does that leave the X7??

    I take it as the Flagship of their BEV Product line till a newer one comes along to replace it and it then becomes the old Hen in the portfolio of BEV. :) 

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    19 minutes ago, Robert Hall said:

    ...until the X8 (coupe SUV) arrives

    LOL - what a waste of time & money!!

    9 minutes ago, David said:

    I take it as the Flagship of their BEV Product line till a newer one comes along to replace it and it then becomes the old Hen in the portfolio of BEV. :) 

    Bizarre. 'cause it absolutely looks like an entry-level offering.

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    10 hours ago, surreal1272 said:

    without explanation

    None needed.  None owed.

    The secret of appealing to everyone is to let the READER decide how to interpret what they've just read.  Sorry if I'm being too cerebral for you.

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    2 hours ago, balthazar said:

    Bizarre. 'cause it absolutely looks like an entry-level offering

    Exactly.  Folded cardboard.  COMPLETELY amateur greenhouse, like a 3rd grade sketch.  Just... alien and offputting to the max.  And don't get me started on the EV aspect.  BMW used to be about visceral driving excitement.  These days there is only a vestige of that past, manifested in just a paltry few configurations.  EV is absotively, posolutely the direct opposite of what BMW was.  A whirring, completely unengaging, boring as hell way to get around.  The child that got strained through the sheets.

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    15 minutes ago, ocnblu said:

    None needed.  None owed.

    The secret of appealing to everyone is to let the READER decide how to interpret what they've just read.  Sorry if I'm being too cerebral for you.

    Then no one owes you squat, hence the hypocrisy of you having a tantrum over the downvotes you’ve received. 
     

    And please don’t flatter yourself. You are a lot of things but cerebral is not one of them. 
     

    Oh and next time, be a man and quote the entire statement and not just select words to conflate whatever “cerebral” argument you are trying to make. It’s as boring as the BMW. 

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    1 hour ago, ocnblu said:

    (*memo to self:  don't rely on other ppl's sarcasm sensors.  More often than not, they are non-existent.)

    From the Random Thoughts Thread

    19 minutes ago, ocnblu said:

    None needed.  None owed.

    The secret of appealing to everyone is to let the READER decide how to interpret what they've just read.  Sorry if I'm being too cerebral for you.

     

    If you find this post too long to read, there is a shorter answer. Just go straight to the pic below.

    Im sure he caught the sarcasm. He was just being nice to me and playing nice for the sake of this community.

    Hostility is not a nice thing.    But...you do have issues you need to work on.   You dont seem to be a very tolerant or open minded guy.  Very narrow and close minded.   Or maybe you play a buffoon on the internets. 

    Its cool.  You are who you are.   In real life or your internet persona.   

    I used to like you in these forums.  Until I realized you are a very negative person in here full of bizarre and quite hypocritical behavior.   When you are having fun in here, you are quite amusing to me and Im assuming everyone else.  But most of the time, when an opinion differs from yours, you are quite the troll.  You dont allow for discourse and all you do is just bully yourself through....while also playing the victim.  Quite bizarre for a 50 year old man.    Like I said, you are who you are.     

    And yes I take your post as an insult.   You constantly make things personal.   YOU...do that.  But hypocritically bitch that everyone else does... 

     

     

    short answer:

     

     

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    I appreciate the short answer.  I am glad you finally get it:  an internet forum is no place for novels.  They cause drowsiness.

    17 minutes ago, surreal1272 said:

    quote the entire statement

    No one wants to read ppl's comments again and again, why quote the whole thing... it just pollutes the forums.

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