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    Is There A Smaller Cadillac In Store?


    William Maley

    Editor/Reporter - CheersandGears.com

    February 12, 2012

    The smallest Cadillac currently is the new ATS sedan. But that could be changing.

    “The (compact) ATS sedan is not as small as we could go at Cadillac,” says Dave Leone, vehicle-line executive for the ATS. “The ATS is only the first entry. The ATS platform is scalable, so we could go smaller or larger.”

    The ATS is 7.7 inches shorter than the CTS, but the platform could be scaled down even further, possibly spawing a competitor to the BMW 1-Series, Audi A3, and Mercedes A-Class.

    Leone went onto to say, a smaller ATS would “a legitimate entry in the largest segment in the industry, the small, entry-level luxury market.”

    Source: Wards Auto

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    In time we will see a small FWD Cadillac. If Benz and BMW are working on one you can be sure GM will have it too. These companies are running scared to the future.

    The Alpha is much more flexible than many seem to want to understand. Might get the latest Car and Driver as they have a good under body shot of the new ATS.

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    I am hoping by some mackerel that Cadillac goes no smaller than a shortened Alpha.

    Although that neu small Benz hatch in the spy vid is somewhat palatable...

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    Smaller is not necessarily lighter. And, small and heavy does no one any good. The BMW 1-series is a good example. Much more cramped than a good deal uglier than the well proportioned 3-series, but a mere 50 lbs lighter because the load bearing structure is so similar that there were minimum weight savings from paring down the shrink wrap!

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    Smaller is not necessarily lighter. And, small and heavy does no one any good. The BMW 1-series is a good example. Much more cramped than a good deal uglier than the well proportioned 3-series, but a mere 50 lbs lighter because the load bearing structure is so similar that there were minimum weight savings from paring down the shrink wrap!

    i would expect the next 1-series to be lighter since it will be on a weak FWD platform.

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    Thanx with that mentality Chevy becomes Toyota and sells Maytag's while ONLY the rich can have a RWD car no matter what the horse power.

    Chevy value FULL line manufacturer. that' s what made them great and will keep them great as goes Chevy so goes GM :2cents:

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    Thanx with that mentality Chevy becomes Toyota and sells Maytag's while ONLY the rich can have a RWD car no matter what the horse power.

    Chevy value FULL line manufacturer. that' s what made them great and will keep them great as goes Chevy so goes GM :2cents:

    Well, other than the relatively low volume Camaro and Corvette, Chevy has been only FWD appliances for the last 15 years....

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    And what might that be Olds? If referring to the B bodies then your way off base as a sporting car goes. Yeah my Roadmaster Estate will run with an Impala SS but handling braking not in the same league. prior to that the Monty SS same thing. If given the choice Chevy builds the value performance car and it's bought quite well. The RWD Monties were 95% take on SS at shut down and Imp SS was sold well too. Hell ALL B bodies sold well GM just wanted to sell trucks and cede the police & livery market to Ford rather than move the plant to Mexico.

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    Thanx with that mentality Chevy becomes Toyota and sells Maytag's while ONLY the rich can have a RWD car no matter what the horse power.

    Chevy value FULL line manufacturer. that' s what made them great and will keep them great as goes Chevy so goes GM :2cents:

    Eventually RWD/FWD will be gone as we move to AWD in a Hybrid format giving us better over all performance. As has been mentioned, the last 15 years except for the Corvette and Camaro, Chevy has been a FWD builder of appliances that people seem to like and if you go to CUV/SUV you end up with AWD/FWD or 4x4/FWD.

    Active Lifestyles is making people change their thinking about drive trains. Plus Xbox has really helped raise a generation of AWD drivers.

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    Thanx with that mentality Chevy becomes Toyota and sells Maytag's while ONLY the rich can have a RWD car no matter what the horse power.

    Chevy value FULL line manufacturer. that' s what made them great and will keep them great as goes Chevy so goes GM :2cents:

    Eventually RWD/FWD will be gone as we move to AWD in a Hybrid format giving us better over all performance. As has been mentioned, the last 15 years except for the Corvette and Camaro, Chevy has been a FWD builder of appliances that people seem to like and if you go to CUV/SUV you end up with AWD/FWD or 4x4/FWD.

    Active Lifestyles is making people change their thinking about drive trains. Plus Xbox has really helped raise a generation of AWD drivers.

    If Americans are all that active, 34% of us wouldn't be clinically obese. All wheel drive will never be the defacto standard because of two very simple reasons -- it is not as efficient as FWD (Hybrid or not, you incur more parasitic loss driving two axles instead of one), and it is not as entertaining to drive as RWD.

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    Well you can count Buick in with Chevy's woes also the dearly departed other 2/3's of BOP. Caddy has just to go back before the CTS to be FWD lest the B/D body and the Badge job Opel. There's been little on GM's fleet since 88 so if the finger is pointed at Chevy 3 others are pointed at the remaining divisions.

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    Smaller lighter and more expensive are all in the cards for most makes and models in the future. Unless someone has the magic bullet the new standards will not be met. Also fuel will never get any cheaper.

    Smaller is lighter with more expensive materials. In a Cadillac you will see more exotic things used to get the weight out. It is not hard to do in an expensive car but in a car like a Sonic it is difficult to do and keep the price down.

    All the sports car makers and luxury makers in Europe are scared as they are being forced for once to make cars they would never have considered. Some will be ok while other will take a hit.

    Who ever thought Retrimed IQ would be sold as an Aston Martin?

    Anyone notice too that Cadillac has made it clear not to expect a XTS V? It seems they will save the V for the new larger RWD sedan. So all is not small.

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    All the sports car makers and luxury makers in Europe are scared as they are being forced for once to make cars they would never have considered. Some will be ok while other will take a hit.

    Who ever thought Retrimed IQ would be sold as an Aston Martin?

    I don't think Porsche or Lamborghini or Ferrari and Maserati have to worry...they have VW/etc and Fiat, respectively, to make the FWD appliances...BMW has Mini, Daimler has Smart and M-B...it's the independents like Aston Martin and Jaguar/Land Rover that have to worry...

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    All the sports car makers and luxury makers in Europe are scared as they are being forced for once to make cars they would never have considered. Some will be ok while other will take a hit.

    Who ever thought Retrimed IQ would be sold as an Aston Martin?

    I don't think Porsche or Lamborghini or Ferrari and Maserati have to worry...they have VW/etc and Fiat, respectively, to make the FWD appliances...BMW has Mini, Daimler has Smart and M-B...it's the independents like Aston Martin and Jaguar/Land Rover that have to worry...

    No matter who own who they all are working on cars that get much better MPG.

    Porshe is into hybrids and electrics already and working on more. Ferrari is looking to smaller engines in the future Aston is in a world of hurt as they are not doing the IQ for fun.

    The fact is even if some can skirt the regs they still have to fight the Green movment in Europe. It is much stronger than most here even have a clue. The Green party is strong enough to change laws and force companies just by public opinion into changing products.

    While most are people who want clean air which is ok many within this party are zelots.

    I have even seen it effect companies like Michlien. years ago they made and market a tire with the Green Lable on the side. I remember getting the prototypes in and the guys joking it was not green.

    While we will still have some fast and impressive cars the reality is many of the large engines will be gone and other ways to power even sports cars will come into the market.

    Even Europe in many areas has California beat on the Green movment. Clarkson does not joke bout them just for fun. It is his public display to fight against them. He is one of few that will speak freely in public about them.

    Things like the engine size tax in London and cut in the Autobahn is only some of the minor changes they want to see as more get elected.

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    Just another reason to hold onto my old Performance Auto's since this is the last Golden Age of Big Engine Performance.

    Or Next Golden Age will be when we have Tuners who build Hi Performance Electric Engines / Hybrid Systems. Once we can get 500 -1000 miles on a Electric / Hybrid system with Corvette performance, then we will be into another auto Golden Era.

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