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    Rumorpile: Cadillac's Upcoming 4.2L Twin-Turbo V8 To Appear in Escalade, CTS-V?

      See if you can spot the odd vehicle out!

    Back at the New York Auto Show, Cadillac unveiled an all-new twin-turbo 4.2L V8 that produces 550 horsepower and 627 pound-feet of torque. This engine was destined for upcoming CT6 V-Sport. But with the CT6 lineup destined to go away in the near future, what will happen to the new V8.

    Roadshow has learned from a source that Cadillac will be using this engine in the next-generation Escalade and CTS-V (don't you mean CT5-V?!).

    Let's begin with the next-generation Escalade. The current model uses a 6.2L V8 engine that makes 420 horsepower and 460 pound-feet of torque. We know that Cadillac was planning to offer a slightly detuned version of the 4.2L V8 on the regular CT6, producing somewhere in the range of 500 horsepower. Whether Cadillac decides to go with this or push power down a bit further remains to be seen.

    Now to the CTS-V, or CT5-V. This is where we begin to question the source. We know that Cadillac will be retiring the CTS and ATS in the next couple of years for the upcoming CT5. Why the source said, "next-generation CTS-V sedan" has us scratching our heads. Maybe the source misspoke or GM is thinking about continuing forward the CTS-V nameplate. We're likely putting too much thought into this.

    Nevertheless, we would expect Cadillac to bump up horsepower to 600 or so to keep up with the likes of the Germans.

    Source: Roadshow




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    4 hours ago, smk4565 said:

    I imagine most Audi’s sold in China are 2 or 3 liter.  Their V8 does come in under 4 liters to avoid that top tax rate.  But I bet the great majority of A8’s are V6 in China

    So your choice is an A8 with a 6-banger for STILL way more yuan, or a twin-turbo V8 CT6.
    I know where I'd put my money!

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    8 hours ago, balthazar said:

    So your choice is an A8 with a 6-banger for STILL way more yuan, or a twin-turbo V8 CT6.
    I know where I'd put my money!

    The A8 with V6 mild hybrid is about 900k to 1.2 million Yuan in China.  It looks like China only has the turbo 4 and the 3 liter V6 CT6 for China, which do run much cheaper than the A8 in the 400-800k range.  But the A8 is a better car also.

    I feel like the CT6 will exit the American market, unless they import Chinese made ones, but maybe they cancel it over there too.  I suspect GM made a decent amount of investment on CT6 because it was a new platform, that 3.0 V6 is only used there also, this 4.2 V8 is only there for now.  This isn't a good economies of scale car, they could be losing money on it, and even if it turns a small profit, I can see GM just scraping it.

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    3 minutes ago, smk4565 said:

    The A8 with V6 mild hybrid is about 900k to 1.2 million Yuan in China.  It looks like China only has the turbo 4 and the 3 liter V6 CT6 for China, which do run much cheaper than the A8 in the 400-800k range.  But the A8 is a better car also.

    I feel like the CT6 will exit the American market, unless they import Chinese made ones, but maybe they cancel it over there too.  I suspect GM made a decent amount of investment on CT6 because it was a new platform, that 3.0 V6 is only used there also, this 4.2 V8 is only there for now.  This isn't a good economies of scale car, they could be losing money on it, and even if it turns a small profit, I can see GM just scraping it.

    Based on your statement then MB should be scrapping many of their low selling cars.

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    12 hours ago, dfelt said:

    Based on your statement then MB should be scrapping many of their low selling cars.

    MB should scrap the SLC.  The only other low sellers globally are the SL and AMG GT and those aren’t going anywhere.  They have to do something with the SL to improve sales which is hard when 2 seat convertibles have very low demand.

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    13 hours ago, smk4565 said:

    The A8 with V6 mild hybrid is about 900k to 1.2 million Yuan in China.  It looks like China only has the turbo 4 and the 3 liter V6 CT6 for China, which do run much cheaper than the A8 in the 400-800k range.  But the A8 is a better car also.

    I feel like the CT6 will exit the American market, unless they import Chinese made ones, but maybe they cancel it over there too.  I suspect GM made a decent amount of investment on CT6 because it was a new platform, that 3.0 V6 is only used there also, this 4.2 V8 is only there for now.  This isn't a good economies of scale car, they could be losing money on it, and even if it turns a small profit, I can see GM just scraping it.

    The CT4 and CT5 are coming. I would expect the 3.0TT to show up in those. Or maybe still the 3.6TT for V-series and V-Sports. 

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    5 hours ago, Drew Dowdell said:

    The CT4 and CT5 are coming. I would expect the 3.0TT to show up in those. Or maybe still the 3.6TT for V-series and V-Sports. 

    They should put the V8 in the CT4-V.  No holding back, if you have it, then use it.

    GM should also make an inline six and kill all these V6's because any over 300 hp vehicle should be sending power to the rear wheels, and any sedan or crossover at Buick or Chevy can use a 4-cylinder/turbo/electric combo powertrain like Volvo does on their line, so no need for a transverse V6.   Also XT5 and XT6 should switch to Omega and get the V8.  This is the V8's last hurrah before electric takes over, I say V8 all things.

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