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    Some Chevrolet Dealers To GM: No Thanks To More Volts


    William Maley

    Editor/Reporter - CheersandGears.com

    January 23, 2012

    The Chevrolet Volt has been having a tough time in the marketplace. First was the Volt missing it's goal of 10,000 vehicles sold last year (only sold 7,671 vehicles) due to the plant being shut down back in the summer. Then there was the whole NHTSA investigation into Volt's battery, which was closed last week.

    Now there's another roadblock for the Volt. Automotive News is reporting that some Chevrolet dealers are turning down Volts. In New York City, GM offered 104 Volts to its 14 local dealers last month. Dealers only took 31. Even dealers that had no problem selling Volts are being more cautious.

    Brett Hedrick, dealer principal at Hedrick's Chevrolet said they have turned down offers for Volts for the past two months.

    Rob Peterson, a GM spokesman confirmed that "dealer ordering is down" for the Volt. He said the reason for the drop is due to the NHTSA investigation into the Volt's battery.

    Source: Autoweek

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    The most annoying thing is when News shows and people who don't like the volt act like they couldn't sell ten thousand when it was actually just slow production.

    The ordering should pick up over time

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    The news programs out there reporting that your Volt will burst into flames if you sneeze wrong certainly don't help. Even one of the car guys here at work thought that the Volt would catch on fire without being involved in an accident. Just goes to show how widespread the misinformation about the Volt is.

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    It doesn't help that it's a 'green' vehicle by a company that was 'bailed out' and thus, is antithetical to everything America in the eyes of a bunch of ignorant tools.

    The misinformation out there, I believe, is deliberate.

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    There are no carpool lanes in the Fresno-Clovis area, but I would expect sales of the Volt to pick up in the Los Angeles and San Francisco areas when the Volt becomes eligible for the solo occupant carpool decals soon.

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    There are no carpool lanes in the Fresno-Clovis area, but I would expect sales of the Volt to pick up in the Los Angeles and San Francisco areas when the Volt becomes eligible for the solo occupant carpool decals soon.

    While this is true, Fresno/Clovis is a community that is the perfect size for the volt to be able to tool around on electricity.

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    There are no carpool lanes in the Fresno-Clovis area, but I would expect sales of the Volt to pick up in the Los Angeles and San Francisco areas when the Volt becomes eligible for the solo occupant carpool decals soon.

    IIRC, I read that the Prius is no longer elegible for the carpool decals because of sales volume....maybe the Volt can become the new hotness for commuter cars in Cali..

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    Or it could be that the limited demand for a vehicle that is "green" but which does not make economic sense had simply been tapped and exhausted.

    Remember... the Volt from a room, comfort, performance or luxury standpoint is Cruze class. But, it sells for twice; $18,000 more. And that is with about $6000 worth of government subsidies. Given the $1300~1400 annual gas tab @ 32 mpg, 12,500 miles per year and $3.50 per gallon. It'll take you over 13 years to break even on the investment even if electricity is free and you never ever use the volt in its gas powered extended range mode; which will never be the case.

    To buy a Volt, you have to believe in Global Warming and androgeneous carbon output beng a problem. You have to believe in it with enough idealistic frevor to want to attempt an individual and futile attempt to make a dent at your own carbon footprint. And, you have to be that kind of a person while at the same time having enough dough to say that you don't care about $18,000, will rather drive a "green" car than a more luxurious car, but not so loaded that you are in the market for a Tesla. In short, you have to be an environmental coolaid drinker with a lot but not too much cash and a distain for luxury.

    Honestly, I don't see that many Knights of Templars amongst the religiously faithful.

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    Or you have to like how the Volt drives. I happen to like the "silent 99% of the time" aspect of it in a daily driving routine.

    One thing I've wondered about the Volt--is it quiet also? I.e. isolated from road noise, wind noise, etc (non-drivetrain noise). I've ridden in Priuses, and they aren't all that quiet..

    Edited by Cubical-aka-Moltar
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    Since we had a ride in one at the 2011 NYIAS in April, and then each the chance to drive on in August at the Philadelphia GM Main Street in Motion event, the wife and I would be happy to call a Chevrolet Volt our daily driver to work Monday through Friday. I just don't know if the rewards would be that great for our one-way commute of 33 miles (against say a Cruze LTZ or a Verano).

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    There are some simple factors that are in play

    #1 Not all dealers are in areas where this is going to be a hot car. In fact there are many Chevy dealers between the coast that do nothing but sell Trucks and a hand full of cars. These small town dealers don't want Volts.

    #2 The press of late has not helped and in time it will pass.

    # 3 There are still people out there that seem to think GM's future is hinged on the Volt? GM is only looking to the Volt to give them a in with an electric car so once better batteries are at hand they will have a model they can sell. Also if they did not start to build these cars the price of them will never come down. Now that there is a market prices will drop in time.

    #4 The price will be a limiting factor for a little while longer.

    #5 This is more a Suburban car. People out in the sticks don't care and the city apartments and condo dwellers plug in where?

    #6 The biggest thing I feel hurting the Volt are two things. Limited avail in many areas yet. I have only seen two dealer demo's here. Also the Cruze Eco has hurt it the most with good MPG and a much lower price.

    The simple truth is the Volt is here and it is not going to go away. It is not here to save GM and will for the most play a limited supporting roll for the near future.

    From everyone I have spoken to that has driven one they love it. With my daily drive I could use one and never use a drop of gas. I really don't care about the Enviroment part but the fuel savings would attract me if the price came down and it was offered in something other than a 4 door sedan.

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    IIRC, I read that the Prius is no longer elegible for the carpool decals because of sales volume....maybe the Volt can become the new hotness for commuter cars in Cali..

    The yellow decal program, which was limited to 85,000 hybrids achieving 45 mpg, expired July 1, 2011. Only the Insight, Prius, and Civic Hybrid met the requirements. The white decal program lasts until 2015, and it is for super clean vehicles, including pure electrics, hydrogen fuel cell, and natural gas powered vehicles. The green decal program is new and limited to 40,000 vehicles. It is for Enhanced Advanced Technology Partial Zero Emission Vehicle, and it includes plug-in hybrids and the Volt. Article from the LA Times on the Volt getting the carpool access: http://www.latimes.com/business/money/la-fi-mo-chevrolet-volt-20120119,0,6323739.story

    Fresno is full-size pickup country, yet the Prius is a popular vehicle. The price difference is substantial between the Prius and Volt. Prius goes for about $24k for a lower level version. Volt goes for $32k after state and federal rebates, which is still a great deal. With the typical commutes in Fresno, a Volt would never need to run on gas. For that matter, a Leaf would work for most people.

    The GM employee discount does not cover two vehicles: the Camaro ZL1 and the Volt. Odd that they would exempt the Volt if demand does not outstrip supply.

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    Or it could be that the limited demand for a vehicle that is "green" but which does not make economic sense had simply been tapped and exhausted.

    Remember... the Volt from a room, comfort, performance or luxury standpoint is Cruze class. But, it sells for twice; $18,000 more. And that is with about $6000 worth of government subsidies. Given the $1300~1400 annual gas tab @ 32 mpg, 12,500 miles per year and $3.50 per gallon. It'll take you over 13 years to break even on the investment even if electricity is free and you never ever use the volt in its gas powered extended range mode; which will never be the case.

    To buy a Volt, you have to believe in Global Warming and androgeneous carbon output beng a problem. You have to believe in it with enough idealistic frevor to want to attempt an individual and futile attempt to make a dent at your own carbon footprint. And, you have to be that kind of a person while at the same time having enough dough to say that you don't care about $18,000, will rather drive a "green" car than a more luxurious car, but not so loaded that you are in the market for a Tesla. In short, you have to be an environmental coolaid drinker with a lot but not too much cash and a distain for luxury.

    Honestly, I don't see that many Knights of Templars amongst the religiously faithful.

    Honestly, unless you own a Volt yourself, you don't have any credibility to explain on behalf of owners why they've purchased Volts, or to characterize its drivers in such a specific and, frankly, ridiculous way.

    Why don't you perform a pro forma for a Camaro SS? I'd like to see how that purchase pencils out.

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    Let's not forget the dealers who still mark up these Volts way over MSRP and then use the 6K rebate to justify getting it at MSRP price. GM needs to make it a requirement for all Chevy Dealers to have at least 3 Volts on their lots, 1 for demo driving and 2 for sale and have it at a set price, 5% mark up and that is it. The No Dicker Sticker for VOLT!!!

    If the dealers do not want to work with GM, then GM should go with Costco and move a tone of them at a 5% markup.

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    The Volt is too expensive for what it is. It is Cruze/Civic/Elantra level in performance, size, features, etc at double the price as earlier stated. The electric range is not far enough and recharge time not quick enough. Draining a battery in 1 hour and needing 8 hours to recharge it isn't appealing. Battery technology just isn't good enough to make a car like the Volt desirable.

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    Draining a battery in 1 hour and needing 8 hours to recharge it isn't appealing.

    Very true... except that with the Volt you can drain the battery in 1 hour and then not give a crap, since you're still getting good mileage. Your statement sounds more like a reason to not find the Leaf appealing.

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    Costco has an automotive program that you deal with participating dealers with. The price has been prenegotiated. That is how I leased my Regal.

    True they have an automotive program, but in this case, if the dealerships are not wanting to sell the cars, then sell them direct via Costco at a set price and then you just pay for the shipment cost of having the car delivered via truck to your home. GM could and Costco make a fortune this way.

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    Costco has an automotive program that you deal with participating dealers with. The price has been prenegotiated. That is how I leased my Regal.

    True they have an automotive program, but in this case, if the dealerships are not wanting to sell the cars, then sell them direct via Costco at a set price and then you just pay for the shipment cost of having the car delivered via truck to your home. GM could and Costco make a fortune this way.

    Unfortunately most states have franchise laws that require vehicle sales through licensed dealers. Remember what happened when Chrysler opened the corporate dealer in Los Angeles?

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    Costco has an automotive program that you deal with participating dealers with. The price has been prenegotiated. That is how I leased my Regal.

    True they have an automotive program, but in this case, if the dealerships are not wanting to sell the cars, then sell them direct via Costco at a set price and then you just pay for the shipment cost of having the car delivered via truck to your home. GM could and Costco make a fortune this way.

    Unfortunately most states have franchise laws that require vehicle sales through licensed dealers. Remember what happened when Chrysler opened the corporate dealer in Los Angeles?

    Yep.

    In fact, each state has its own set of franchise laws - effectively tying the manufacturer's hands.

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