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    Barra Confirms GM is Working On EV Pickup

      ...no concerns of being left behind...

    Fresh on the news that Ford invested $500 million into electric truck startup Rivian in order to gain access to the startup's EV platform, General Motors CE) Mary Barra confirmed that General Motors is working on an EV pickup of their own.

    This was during an investors earnings call when Barra said GM has "an industry-leading truck franchise as well as EV capability" and that the company "would not cede our leadership on either front".

    Talks between Rivian and GM were rumored to have broken down over GM's insistence that they have exclusive access to the platform.  If that is the case, then there is a possibility that Ford may not be the only manufacturer other than Rivian to use the skateboard platform.

    Any EV from GM will likely use GM's new BEV3 platform that it plans to unveil in 2021.  GM plans for at least 20 all-electric or fuel-cell vehicles by 2023.

    Source: Automotive News (Subscription Required)

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    Well duh.  

    I think pickups make the most logical EV.  They have high margin to hide battery cost, they have a lot of space to add battery packs, they require torque which EV is best at and if you take away the front engine for a trunk you have massive cargo and utility ability.

     

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    "or fuel-cell" ? That's interesting to hear. I think that part will be overlooked. 

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    47 minutes ago, Drew Dowdell said:

    I wonder if they'll do full-size or mid-size. 

    You would think it would be both but it would seem to make sense to start with the higher volume model (full size) in a effort to mitigate the costs. I could them also starting with midsize just to test the waters but if you’re going to go all in then you might as well start with your bread and butter models. 

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    58 minutes ago, surreal1272 said:

    You would think it would be both but it would seem to make sense to start with the higher volume model (full size) in a effort to mitigate the costs. I could them also starting with midsize just to test the waters but if you’re going to go all in then you might as well start with your bread and butter models. 

    Really iPhone? That should say “I could SEE them also starting...”

     

    Fat fingered typing. 

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    13 minutes ago, surreal1272 said:

    Really iPhone? That should say “I could SEE them also starting...”

     

    Fat fingered typing. 

    Been there done that..sometimes I get to typing fast and leave out verbs.  

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    25 minutes ago, Robert Hall said:

    Been there done that..sometimes I get to typing fast and leave out verbs.  

    I apparently do that more often than I’d like lol. Such is life sometimes though. 

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    37 minutes ago, ocnblu said:

    No one will buy it

    Yes, a few people will buy it.  And in a few years, more people will buy it.

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    7 minutes ago, riviera74 said:

    Yes, a few people will buy it.  And in a few years, more people will buy it.

    At one time, some folks thought that no one would ever buy a Tesla. History is not being very kind to those folks. 

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    6 minutes ago, Drew Dowdell said:

    I don't see why people buy the Bolt... but people still do.

    Fewer this year than last.  In the USA.

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    I don’t know why people buy the Jeep Compass but people still do. Fewer this year than last year as well. 

    The Bolt, for the record, is only down 59 units for the year compared to this time last year, which is far less than many other models out there even when accounting for percentage loss. 

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    So we agree.  Chevrolet Bolt sales are dropping, and have dropped every year since 2017.

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    Only in the most technical sense, yes it is down. However, given that the year over year loss is less (percentage wise) than the majority of ICE autos out there, it means nothing. It doesn’t mean EVs are crap. It doesn’t mean that no one wants them. It literally means nothing. 

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    Well, it actually DOES means something...

    It literally means that the Bolt is 59 units down for the year as compared to the last.

    How one interprets that information also has a certain meaning...to the the eye of the beholder...

    For me however:

    Alls I know is that certain governments on all levels of government in different parts of the world are influencing the manufacturing and the selling of EVs.

    Alls I know, ENOUGH peoples of ALL types ALL OVER the world are also influencing this trend. 

    Enough that ALL automobile manufacturers around the world are very antsy about it...and THAT in turn makes them go all out in the R&D and manufacturing of EVs. 

    THAT is what I know and THAT is what all this means...

    Including GM and now Ford courting Rivian...

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    4 minutes ago, oldshurst442 said:

    Well, it actually DOES means something...

    It literally means that the Bolt is 59 units down for the year as compared to the last.

    How one interprets that information also has a certain meaning...

    For me however, it means nothing.

    Alls I know is that certain governments on all levels of government in different parts of the world are influencing the manufacturing and the selling of EVs.

    Alls I know, ENOUGH peoples of ALL types ALL OVER the world are also influencing this trend. 

    Enough that ALL automobile manufacturers around the world are very antsy about it...and THAT in turn makes them go all out in the R&D and manufacturing of EVs. 

    THAT is what I know and THAT is what all this means...

    That is not the context on which I was speaking but I get what you’re saying. My remark was pretty much a trolling deflection. 

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    oldshurst442

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    5 minutes ago, surreal1272 said:

    That is not the context on which I was speaking but I get what you’re saying. My remark was pretty much a trolling deflection. 

    I did not want you to think I was targeting you with this because in fact, I was targeting @ocnblu

    But yeah...my post was more in compliment with yours...but I must admit, it does not seem to be that way.  

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    18 minutes ago, oldshurst442 said:

    I did not want you to think I was targeting you with this because in fact, I was targeting @ocnblu

    But yeah...my post was more in compliment with yours...but I must admit, it does not seem to be that way.  

    No worries but thanks for clarification. I did not want anyone to misread my intent here. 

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    4 hours ago, ocnblu said:

    No one will buy it

    because it’s a GM

    2 hours ago, ocnblu said:

    So we agree.  Chevrolet Bolt sales are dropping, and have dropped every year since 2017.

    because it’s a GM

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    8 hours ago, Drew Dowdell said:

    I wonder if they'll do full-size or mid-size. 

    Thinking mid size.

    More EV power from a smaller truck.🙂

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    YEAH, it'll be great, they said...

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    5 hours ago, FAPTurbo said:

    because it’s a GM

    because it’s a GM

    Well the money grab phased out and nobody's buying Teslas either.  Have you been in Times Square recently?

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    7 hours ago, surreal1272 said:

    Only in the most technical sense

    Yes, the "most technical" basic math...

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    3 hours ago, ocnblu said:

    YEAH, it'll be great, they said...

    6a00d83451b3c669e2016303fb28c7970d.jpg

    Well the money grab phased out and nobody's buying Teslas either.  Have you been in Times Square recently?

    Yeah, because the technology hasn't evolved at all.

    People are buying Tesla, they're outselling Mercedes and BMW.

    11 hours ago, ocnblu said:

    So we agree.  Chevrolet Bolt sales are dropping, and have dropped every year since 2017.

    No, 59 units difference is basically flat.

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    3 hours ago, ocnblu said:

     

     

    Well the money grab phased out and nobody's buying Teslas either.  Have you been in Times Square recently?

    That message, my friend,  at Times Square, could very well be political...

    We do not know the REAL motivations for this message. Could very well be what you are hoping it to be. But maybe its got deeper more sinister intentions...

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