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    95% Of Trips Can Be Made In A Electric Vehicle


    William Maley

    Editor/Reporter - CheersandGears.com

    January 17, 2012

    If you’re one of people who wants an electric car, but have the fear of not having enough power to make it through your daily drive, you might want to hear this story.

    A new study released by Columbia University says that 95% of daily trips could be made with an electric vehicles. The study done by two doctoral students used data from the Department of Transport’s 2009 National Household Travel Survey. The data showed 95% of the 748,918 recorded single-trip journeys by car were under 30 miles.

    More surprisingly, 98% of single-trip journeys were under 50 miles in length. Only 1% of single-trip journeys were 70 miles and above.

    The study found out the average distance for single-trip distance is 5.95, while 95% of rural residents' trips were under 50 miles.

    But of course, these numbers are only for single trips, which only tell you so much. What would more helpful if there was an average commuting distances. Luckily, the study provides those numbers as well.

    The study found 95% of those surveyed traveled under 40 miles to work; the average trip was 13.6 miles.

    The average round trip drive for urban drivers was 36.5 miles, while rural drivers saw an average of 48.6 miles.

    Source: Green Car Reports

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    Yea, right, does not work for me. My daily round trip is 72 miles on hills getting into Seattle. Plus my daily side trips to run errands and get other things done. So how does a vehicle that covers 95% or in my case much less of my driving make sense?

    I would love to have an electric vehicle, but it has to have a commen sense 150 mile range.

    Hey Columbia, did you really ask detailed questions or just the moron question of how far is your commute from home to work and back?

    Yes most people could use electric auto's if that is all they did, but MOST people do many other things besides just driving to and from work.

    McFly Time to Wake up!!!

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    Have you ever driven a Tesla roadster? A Tesla Model S? One of those 600hp AWD mini coopers?

    No, and I really don't have any desire to.

    It's about more than just performance for me, I "click" with ICEs, and enjoy working on them. Electric motors are quite boring by comparison and have no appeal of that sort for me. No visceral sound from the exhaust, no fascinating mechanical structure...

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    Caveman enjoyed the visceral sound of banging rocks together too.

    it said the research was by grad students. basically they fit whatever data they can manufacture to fit their own point of view.

    If they did that, then they would have failed their course.

    Of course, since Columbia is a 'leftist nazi' institution of immense pedigree, the school was totally willing to turn such a horribly skewed result into propaganda so they can socially engineer us into 'leftist nazi' sympathizers!!

    You're a genius!!

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    it said the research was by grad students. basically they fit whatever data they can manufacture to fit their own point of view.

    If they did that, then they would have failed their course.

    Of course, since Columbia is a 'leftist nazi' institution of immense pedigree, the school was totally willing to turn such a horribly skewed result into propaganda so they can socially engineer us into 'leftist nazi' sympathizers!!

    You're retarded!!

    Fixed, I know it was sarcasm but for comment as asinine as that I feel parties involved may take "genius" seriously.

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    Caveman enjoyed the visceral sound of banging rocks together too.

    it said the research was by grad students. basically they fit whatever data they can manufacture to fit their own point of view.

    If they did that, then they would have failed their course.

    Of course, since Columbia is a 'leftist nazi' institution of immense pedigree, the school was totally willing to turn such a horribly skewed result into propaganda so they can socially engineer us into 'leftist nazi' sympathizers!!

    You're a genius!!

    I thought Nazis were rightists more than leftists.....it's pretty moronic to throw the work 'nazi' around so lightly. I know several people that are Columbia grads, it's a fine school..

    And as a former grad student myself, you don't make up data...that's not how the scientific process works...there are ethical conduct standards to adhere to..

    Edited by Cubical-aka-Moltar
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    The only thing wrong with their findings is that it tells us what we already know and was a waste of their time, but its certainly correct. Most people's daily commutes are less than the range of a modern electric vehicle. With that said, a plug-in hybrid like teh Volt or Fusion Energi would be ideal, since you'd use it in electric mode 05% of the time, but when you wanted to go on a tril, simply fill it with gas and go.

    Personally, I'ms till waiting for Hydrogen powered vehicles to take off. That would truely be ideal.

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    Personally, I'ms till waiting for Hydrogen powered vehicles to take off. That would truely be ideal.

    Yes, yes it would.

    Hydrogen-powered ICEs would make me most happy.

    No batteries!

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    Ugh then you have to plug its sorry ass in and fire up those coal-fired power plants.

    I would convert my house to solar power if I had the money, but I am another that will NEV VER want a stupid, uninvolving electric appliance for a vehicle. To me they are the antithesis of what an automobile should be.

    And thankfully, the world auto market agrees with me, despite the hype.

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    i am fine with electric for one of my vehicles if i can 'fill it' in 3 minutes like a gas car, and it's cheaper to operate, and gives me all the same range and features and benefits.

    I like eAssist, I like hybrid if its cost effective. I really don't like the notion of remembering to plug in my car every day like my phone......

    true electric cars have potential to open the door to new packaging paradigms, which is what intrigues me the most.

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    Personally, I'ms till waiting for Hydrogen powered vehicles to take off. That would truely be ideal.

    Yes, yes it would.

    Hydrogen-powered ICEs would make me most happy.

    No batteries!

    Hydrogen powered ICEs are a waste of fuel because of all of the mechanical inefficiency of the turning engine.

    The way to take the most advantage of hydrogen is to put it into a fuel cell to run an electric motor instead of burning it in an ICE. Thus regenerative braking can actually re-charge the fuel cell partially. A fuel cell is just a battery that consumes the chemical used to generate the electricity. In a hydrogen fuel cell, the process can be reversed to create more stored hydrogen.

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    Personally, I'ms till waiting for Hydrogen powered vehicles to take off. That would truely be ideal.
    Yes, yes it would. Hydrogen-powered ICEs would make me most happy. No batteries!
    Hydrogen powered ICEs are a waste of fuel because of all of the mechanical inefficiency of the turning engine. The way to take the most advantage of hydrogen is to put it into a fuel cell to run an electric motor instead of burning it in an ICE. Thus regenerative braking can actually re-charge the fuel cell partially. A fuel cell is just a battery that consumes the chemical used to generate the electricity. In a hydrogen fuel cell, the process can be reversed to create more stored hydrogen.

    "Wasting" hydrogen is almost an absurdity by definition. With a hydrogen-fueled ICE, all we need is a fuel production and supply (and on-board storage) are the only real needs to make it work. A Fuel-cell vehicle needs all of that along with fuel cell development, and electic propulsion development. ICE conversions are far simpler and less expensive with a much closer time to production and even a retro-fit of existing cars and trucks being viable. Gaseous-fueled ICEs are the best of both worlds in my view. And we can have them sooner.

    Edited by Camino LS6
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    The only way we have to generate hydrogen in any great number today is by.... burning fossil fuels. So, yes, you CAN waste hydrogen. The only way around that currently is to generate hydrogen via solar, wind, or other renewable means.... and last I checked, you poo pooed those too.

    Yes, there are those algae that fart hydrogen, but that is still a scientific curiosty right now.

    Burning hydrogen with no mechanism for regeneration is, indeed, wasteful.

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    FAIL I commute over 100 miles round trip each day which hills and mountains. Find me an electric car other then the RR EV concept that can easily handle this. I am not opposed to the EV concept I just need one that handles my commute and cost a lot less.

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    I'm amazed by the opposition to electric cars. The whole idea of innovation and advancement is to become more efficient. ICE's have efficiencies of about 20% - that's woeful in today's world.

    FAIL I commute over 100 miles round trip each day which hills and mountains. Find me an electric car other then the RR EV concept that can easily handle this. I am not opposed to the EV concept I just need one that handles my commute and cost a lot less.

    Because that car doesn't exist yet. But in ten years, it probably will.

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