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    Rumorpile: Toledo Plant To Be Home To New Ram Midsize Truck

      Wrangler pickup and a new midsize Ram truck, built at the same assembly plant

    In the most recent five-year plan for Fiat Chrysler Automobiles, Ram Trucks revealed that it planned to have a new midsize truck by 2022. Thanks to a new report from Automotive News, we have some tantalizing details.

    According to supplier sources, the new Ram truck will be built at FCA's Toledo, Ohio plant - home to the Wrangler and upcoming Wrangler pickup. Half of the plant has been shutdown since April for retooling to make way for the Wrangler pickup. The line regularly built more than 230,000 JK Wranglers per year before undergoing the retooling process. FCA is not expecting the Wrangler truck to sell in high numbers, leaving a fair amount of capacity ready for another vehicle. Hence where the Ram midsize comes in.

    This also reveals that the midsize truck will be body-on frame. We've heard previously that Ram was considering unibody construction.

    The truck is expected to debut in 2020 as a 2021 model.

    Source: Automotive News (Subscription Required)

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    25 minutes ago, ocnblu said:

    Right.  Makes so much sense.  The Hellcat engine would fit SO WELL... sideways... under a van hood... 

    Yes, FWD minivan w/ Hellcat..great idea.  Not. ...though a mild performance trim wouldn't be too crazy, remember the turbo Caravans in the 80s..

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    56 minutes ago, Drew Dowdell said:

    Just a few years ago. It has some life left in it yet. 

    Four plus the life of a brand new vehicle or do you think it would get something else/new? 

    2 hours ago, Cubical-aka-Moltar said:

    Yes, FWD minivan w/ Hellcat..great idea.  Not. ...though a mild performance trim wouldn't be too crazy, remember the turbo Caravans in the 80s..

    Do they already have an engine for that though? 

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    8 minutes ago, Cubical-aka-Moltar said:

    Not sure..I'm not up on the Pacifica powertrains...3.6 Pentastar regular and hybrid version? 

    I would think using the Turbo 4 banger from say the Wrangler so 300HP with Electric assist hybrid powertrain would give it a nice Pacifica RT package.

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    2 hours ago, ccap41 said:

    Four plus the life of a brand new vehicle or do you think it would get something else/new? 

    Do they already have an engine for that though? 

    Do you think the Grand Cherokee or Durango or Wrangler have a risk of going out of production in that amount of time?  I could see a Turbo-4 being added to the first two, but not a removal of the V6 in the next three model years.  Hell, they're still running the Hemi V8 there. 

    Also remember the Pentastar is available in a 3.2 version in the Cherokee. This I could see dying and going to 2.0T only... or just getting upgraded to the 3.6 the Pacifica has.

    Ram still uses the Pentastar as a base engine.

    Also... will the Journey ever die?  It's another one with the 3.6. 

    The long and short of it is that the Pentastar is still a pretty efficient V6 today.  I also think Wrangler buyers and Dakota buyers will be particularly resistant to a Turbo-4 as the only option. 

     

    2 hours ago, dfelt said:

    Keep in mind there is talk of the Pentastar getting a twin-turbo version to replace the Hemi in some applications.  

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