HarleyEarl 1 Posted September 17, 2005 The 2005 Buick Excelle sedan & HRV hatchback, sold in China: Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sciguy_0504 0 Posted September 17, 2005 Suzuki Forenza and Reno. Imagine if GM did that in the U.S....I think we'd see some C&G members on the news. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HarleyEarl 1 Posted September 17, 2005 LOL...yes there would be an uprising. Pontiac doesn't even have those in the USA. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BuickEight 0 Posted September 18, 2005 I think the hatchback would do great here in the states. :rolleyes: Just imagine your local 1970's Buick dealership beautifying it with a fake convertible top, chrome hubcaps, and gold-plated portholes. :blink: Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HarleyEarl 1 Posted September 18, 2005 Really these cars are not that far from Buick traditions when you look back. For a few years Buick sold Opels here as Buick Opels. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ocnblu 1,809 6 Vehicles Posted September 18, 2005 Does the HRV have DynaRide? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ghost Dog 1 Posted September 18, 2005 (edited) Of course those are the Vehicles that Suzuki says is killing thier Quality ranking. Edited September 18, 2005 by Ghost Dog Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Robert Hall 3,995 4 Vehicles Posted September 18, 2005 (edited) Korean cars, American brand, sold in China...how international. Edited September 18, 2005 by moltar Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
thegriffon 5 Posted September 18, 2005 Built in China, with design and specification changes unique to Buick. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HarleyEarl 1 Posted September 18, 2005 (edited) Of course those are the Vehicles that Suzuki says is killing thier Quality ranking. [post="16064"]<{POST_SNAPBACK}>[/post] I read that it depends in what plants these cars are made. Chevrolet's rebadges come from different ones than does Suzukis. Chevy has not had the same quality issues. Edited September 18, 2005 by HarleyEarl Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cory Wolfe 288 5 Vehicles Posted September 19, 2005 Imagine if GM did that in the U.S....I think we'd see some C&G members on the news. Imagine if GM does bad things to Pontiac... Anywho... Wow. I thought Buick of China was better... Boy, how I was wrong. :blink: Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bimmer325 18 Posted September 19, 2005 Wait, these are considered premium in China? I wasn't aware the Chinese auto industry is so far behind. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pow 106 Posted September 19, 2005 Wait, these are considered premium in China? I wasn't aware the Chinese auto industry is so far behind. [post="16385"]<{POST_SNAPBACK}>[/post] Well, from a "premium" brand, akin to the valiant attempt at an entry-level luxury car and Cadillac, I suppose. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ghost Dog 1 Posted September 19, 2005 I read that it depends in what plants these cars are made. Chevrolet's rebadges come from different ones than does Suzukis. Chevy has not had the same quality issues. [post="16179"]<{POST_SNAPBACK}>[/post] Umm Forenza/Lacetti/Optra - Gunsan Plant Aveo/- Bupyeong plant Verona/Magnus/Epica -Bupyeong plant Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Flybrian 0 Posted September 19, 2005 Well, from a "premium" brand, akin to the valiant attempt at an entry-level luxury car and Cadillac, I suppose. [post="16393"]<{POST_SNAPBACK}>[/post] Or Acura's Civic-based Canadian EL. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NOS2006 11 Posted September 19, 2005 Whoa. Those so don't look like a Park Avenue.. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mule Bakersdozen LS 2 Posted September 19, 2005 Of course those are the Vehicles that Suzuki says is killing thier Quality ranking. [post="16064"]<{POST_SNAPBACK}>[/post] Yeah but they never had a quality rating in the first place so it doesn't really matter. The Aerio's a nice car though-as roomy as my Olds Cutlass Supreme AND Cutlass Ciera. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LosAngeles 2 Posted September 19, 2005 Or Acura's Civic-based Canadian EL. [post="16430"]<{POST_SNAPBACK}>[/post] :unsure: Only in Canada.... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stroke 0 Posted September 19, 2005 looks ugly just like the 06 civic and all of honda products Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jry 1 Posted September 19, 2005 doesn't matter. at some point china will kick us all out and take our technology plus the billions invested in these plants and build these vehicles. then they'll pocket the $$. rich them, poor us. why do you think that they make us build plants and make huge investments in their country and imploy their people in order to sell over there.....they want what we got and they are going to take it. they don't honor patents or copyrights or anyones intellectual property. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ToniCipriani 0 Posted September 20, 2005 Wait, these are considered premium in China? I wasn't aware the Chinese auto industry is so far behind. [post="16385"]<{POST_SNAPBACK}>[/post] No. This Buick appeared before the new Chevy lineup expanded. I think the original plan was for Buick to go mainstream, but now they have Chevy. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites