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News from Vegas this week: La Crosse Super rolls out in 2007 Centieme (Lambda crossover0 launches next year... not in 2007 . You'll see it at NAIAS. It is a quantum leap over the Rendezvous. Seats 8! Holds true to the looks of the 2003 concept...only better. More muscular. Lexus RX.. look out! Rainier is done Terrazza is out after 2007 Plans for a RWD V8 flagship still being considered... but at least 4 years away. Same for Velite coupe. Debating new vs. Holden platform.
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All that sounds like a proper plan. Should be a good year for Buick in 06. Looking forward to Lambda.
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dutch: Much thanks for sharing this information.

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Also talk of introducing a 5 seater crossover below Centieme. Buick has a vehicle like this in China that might be adapted for the US market.
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Plans for a RWD V8 flagship still being considered... but at least 4 years away.  Same for Velite coupe.  Debating new vs. Holden platform.

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Interesting stuff there, dutch.

I wonder if Holden/Buick/Pontiac would be willing to foot the bill to update the VZ coupe to meet US crash standards?
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Interesting stuff there, dutch.

I wonder if Holden/Buick/Pontiac would be willing to foot the bill to update the VZ coupe to meet US crash standards?

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Buick dealers may have to deal with a few years of only carrying 3 products, but there is definitely product in the pipeline. As one dealer put it, "I'd rather have 3 strong vehicles to play with thean 5 or 6 lukewarm offerings.". Lucerne will do great ($35K for fully loaded V8 on same platform as DTS) Centieme should finally live up to the Rendezvous initial promise of going toe-to-toe with Lexus RX.
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dutch: Which is the Chinese Buick that a possible "5-seater crossover" may be based? Is that what has been discussed previously here as a (Theta) Equinox rebadge for model year '09?

Is Centieme confirmed as the name of the Lambda crossover? If so, did they explain why they wanted to eliminate the name Rendezvous? Is it thought that the Lambda crossover is much "more" of a vehicle (not just a simple re-fresh), so they didn't want to use the name Rendezvous?

When they talked of the 5-seater and he RWD flagship, were images (drawings) shown? Or just talk?

Finally, can you shed any more light on the use of "Super" in other Buick models, or the use of "Reserve"?

Thank you very much!
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dutch: Which is the Chinese Buick that a possible "5-seater crossover" may be based?  Is that what has been discussed previously here as a (Theta) Equinox rebadge for model year '09?

Is Centieme confirmed as the name of the Lambda crossover?  If so, did they explain why they wanted to eliminate the name Rendezvous?  Is it thought that the Lambda crossover is much "more" of a vehicle (not just a simple re-fresh), so they didn't want to  use the name Rendezvous?

When they talked of the 5-seater and he RWD flagship, were images (drawings) shown?  Or just talk?

Finally, can you shed any more light on the use of "Super" in other Buick models, or the use of "Reserve"?

Thank you very much!

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Don't know Buick's Chinese line-up... may be a Theta rebadge.

Centieme wasn't confirmed, but it won't be Rendevous. This vehicle is such a quantum leap over the R-vous that it really does demand a new name.

No images shown of any of the pipeline products - La Crosse Super, Lucerne & Lambda were there.

I think you can expect the return of "Super" to Buicks going forward (like Cadillac's V-Series or Saturn's Red Line). La Crosse looks like an entirely new vehicle with the front end and wheel tweaks.
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The Rendezvous name needs to stay. I really REALLY hope they reconsider. I have a feeling they will get some feedback at the shows...
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This is some promising news for Buick. I really want to see the Lambda crossovers, as I'm hoping they can kick some tail for GM.
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dutch: How is the stance of the Buick Lambda? Does it sit high off the ground like the Saturn Outlook spy photos that we've seen or does it sit low to the ground like the Chrysler Pacifica? I hope that it's not like the Pacifica because it looks too much like a station wagon courtesy of its low stance.
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dutch: How is the stance of the Buick Lambda?  Does it sit high off the ground like the Saturn Outlook spy photos that we've seen or does it sit low to the ground like the Chrysler Pacifica?  I hope that it's not like the Pacifica because it looks too much like a station wagon courtesy of its low stance.

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Stance is like the 2003 Centieme concept... except the production vehicle appears larger. And the front end treatment is a bit more masculine (think Velite or Lucerne) rather than feminine (La Crosse)
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Thanks dutch, I was looking at some of my Centieme photos and it rides off the ground higher than the Pacifica, which is great. I also remember an episode of Motorweek that I taped awhile ago that showed the Centieme in motion and it looked terrific. The front end is a little too round but I'm sure glad that the front end of the production version is more masculine and squared-off.
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The Rendezvous name needs to stay.  I really REALLY hope they reconsider.  I have a feeling they will get some feedback at the shows...

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I agree. The 1992 Camry was a quantum leap over the previous version. The 2000 Odyssey was a quantum leap over the previous version. The 2006 Avalon is a quantum leap over the previous version. The 2006 Hyundai Sonata is a quantum leap over the previous version. The 2002 Altima was a quantum leap over the previous version. The domestic automakers need to stop this nonsense of always renaming models. There is nothing wrong the with the Rendezvous name.
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Don't know Buick's Chinese line-up... may be a Theta rebadge.

Centieme wasn't confirmed, but it won't be Rendevous.  This vehicle is such a quantum leap over the R-vous that it really does demand a new name.

No images shown of any of the pipeline products - La Crosse Super, Lucerne & Lambda were there.

I think you can expect the return of "Super" to Buicks going forward (like Cadillac's V-Series or Saturn's Red Line).  La Crosse looks like an entirely new vehicle with the front end and wheel tweaks.

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There is not currently a crossover in China - just a 5-door version of the Daewoo J-body Excelle sedan dubbed HRV. A swb Theta was in the pipeline for Buick, would not be surprised if it debuts in China first. If so it may be similar to the S3X and Antara/Vue.
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The Buick lineup will seem so thin, but maybe not so when compared to other product lines out there. In the end, GM is better off building hot products for Buick rather than a bulk of so-so products.
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I would not want to see Buick sell any small crossover vehicles. Crossovers would sell better as GMC products than as Buicks or Pontiacs. Buick should just concentrate on the niche of traditional American cars. I like the updates planned for the LaCrosse, and the Lucerne looks better every day.
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Stance is like the 2003 Centieme concept... except the production vehicle appears larger.  And the front end treatment is a bit more masculine (think Velite or Lucerne) rather than feminine (La Crosse)

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Hopefully that doesn't AGAIN end up meaning dorky and disproportionate, like the unfortunate snoze on the Lucerne...

Regardless, can't wait to see this thing! And further, I do understand renaming it if it really is such a MASSIVE leap over the vehicle it is replacing, but that does take some time for the people to adjust (G6, Lacrosse, etc.). Then again, if it's as nice as thought to be, people won't give 2 s**ts about the name http://www.cheersandgears.com/public/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/AH-HA_wink.gif
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I hope they keep Rendezvous as well- because the name earned it! Giving cars new names every time a new model comes out (which seems to be GMs plan for Buick) won't give Buick a good solid reputation that the LeSabre, Century, Regal, or Park Avenue gave Buick.

I've said it before- The Rendezvous has been THE vehicle that has kept Buick afloat at ALL during this "transition" period. Nobody expected the success the Rendezvous created- it was supposed to be the Aztek that people were supposed to go crazy over and Buick (once again) got the other vehicle... if the Rendezvous did as good as they predicted (and no one predicted it'd do this good) Buick would be very sunk. People love the Rendezvous- to get rid of its name is ridiculous because no matter WHAT GM will say the newer version is "leaps and bounds" ahead of the old one. GM is never going to admit that a car is worthy of keeping a name because "oh... well, it's not THAT much better than the older version"

And I'd never even consider driving a Rendezvous because I hate any type of SUV, but it definitely has earned its keep. The evolution of the Rendezvous would be fun to watch... not the 'new name game' every 5 years.
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Rendevous should be kept, but it won't be hugely detrimental to sales to see it go away--this will be such a great car I can see it doubling on RDV sales, and getting conquests. dutch, thanks for all the info, great to read everything positive aboue where Buick is going. Like Chazman was saying, Buick/Pontiac/Holden could foot the bill to update the current GTOs structure for new crash standards. This could be an easy fix, and its platform is good enough to keep around. It would be wonderful to see some Buick and Pontiac RWDs sometime soon rather than having to wander through all the Lacrosses and G6s and wonder when the excitement and rebirth will finally happen-----in 2010. dutch.... on the updates on the Lacrosse, did they include a new headlight and interior design at all? How about chrome? Let's talk about chrome and decontenting. Will Buick continue to pretend like they are not supposed to be an upscale brand and not include chrome trim on thier cars? I'm being serious here......thanks for the info
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Maybe if they make the a Theta Buick they'll end up naming it Rendezvous. The new X-Over seems a bit bigger and I'm not sure if it's really a Rendezvous, it sounds like a lot more.
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