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Hyundai Genesis Coupe Beats Camaro and Challenger in Power-to-Weight Ratio

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FOUNTAIN VALLEY, California — Hyundai made it clear that the 2010 Genesis Coupe is targeting the newest American muscle cars and BMW's perennial powerhouse when it released the car's specifications on Thursday. Hyundai notes the 3.8-liter Genesis coupe weighs in at 3,402 pounds and has a better power-to-weight ratio than the BMW 335i, Chevrolet Camaro LS or Dodge Challenger.

The Genesis Coupe's base engine is a 2.0-liter turbocharged inline-4 making an estimated 220 horsepower and 223 pound-feet of torque. A six-speed manual will be the standard transmission; a five-speed automatic is optional. Top speed is expected to be 137 mph, with highway fuel economy estimated at 30 mpg. Hyundai will offer a Track model of the four-cylinder coupe, but the top four-banger will be the R-Spec model with performance add-ons and comfort conveniences targeted at tuners.

The second engine, a 3.8-liter V6, is the weapon the Koreans hope to use to swipe market share from the U.S. makers' products and from BMW. It will make about 310 hp and will be paired to a six-speed manual or automatic transmission. Top speed is predicted to be 149 mph.

The 3.8 Track model mates the V6 engine with four-piston Brembo brake calipers, a limited-slip differential and 19-inch gunmetal wheels wrapped in high-performance summer rubber. A tweaked suspension includes stiffer springs, new dampers, a 25mm stabilizer bar in the front and a 22mm stabilizer bar in the rear. Aluminum pedals, foglamps, a rear spoiler, a blacked-out rear fascia and aero windshield wipers are also included on the Track car.

In total, there are seven models of the Genesis coupe. Standard equipment includes keyless entry, USB audio and Bluetooth connectivity and steering-wheel audio controls. Range-topping trims offer features like xenon HID headlights, an Infinity audio system, heated front seats, a reverse warning system and a navigation system.

Inside Line says: The only thing Hyundai failed to include was a 0-60-mph time. — Eric Tingwall, Correspondent

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Here's a buttload of info:

Hyundai Releases Additional Engineering and Feature Information for the All-New 2010 Hyundai Genesis Coupe

Genesis Coupe Delivers an Estimated 30 MPG

Last update: 6:35 p.m. EDT Oct. 30, 2008

FOUNTAIN VALLEY, Calif., Oct 30, 2008 /PRNewswire via COMTEX/ -- Hyundai released additional engineering and feature information for the all-new 2010 Genesis Coupe today. The Genesis Coupe, and its rear-wheel drive platform-mate the Genesis sedan will make their Specialty Equipment Market Association (SEMA) show debuts next week.

"One of the program targets for the Genesis engineering team was world-class weight efficiency," said John Krafcik, vice president, Product Development and Strategic Planning, Hyundai Motor America. "When you look at the size and content of both Genesis models, you'll find we lead all our competitors in weight efficiency. We also target leadership in power-to-weight ratio. We think that's just smart strategy in today's world. It pays huge dividends in both performance and fuel economy, and that's especially important in the segments in which these cars compete."

Vehicle Engine Curb Weight (pounds) Length (inches)

Genesis sedan 3.8-liter V6 3748 195.9

Genesis sedan 4.6-liter V8 4012 195.9

Genesis Coupe 2.0-liter turbo 3303 182.3

Genesis Coupe 3.8-liter V6 3402 182.3

Both Genesis Coupe and sedan are rich in ultra-high-strength steel, leading to world-class body rigidity. The Genesis sedan is 10-12 percent stiffer in torsion than Lexus and Mercedes-Benz competitors, yet it is lighter than these benchmark sedans, and offers more interior room. At just 3,303 pounds, the Genesis Coupe 2.0T is hundreds of pounds lighter than all of its IRS-equipped rear-wheel-drive competitors, with body-bending rigidity 24 percent higher than BMW E46 M3.

Vehicle Length Curb Weight Horsepower Power-to-weight

(lbs.) ratio

Genesis Coupe 3.8 182.3 3402 310 (est.) 11.0

BMW 335i 181.1 3571 300 11.9

Infiniti G37 183.1 3616 330 11.0

Camaro LS 190.4 3780 300 (est.) 12.6

Challenger 197.7 3819 250 15.3

This focus on weight efficiency pays dividends across the board. The Genesis sedan owes its ability to deliver both strong performance (0-60 mph in just 5.7 seconds) and excellent fuel economy (25 mpg EPA highway rating) in great part due to its impressive weight efficiency. Similarly, the Genesis Coupe 2.0T sets a new benchmark for front-engine, rear-wheel-drive gasoline fuel efficiency with a remarkable 30 mpg estimated EPA highway rating, because of its weight-efficient platform and its efficient 2.0-liter, low-pressure, turbocharged four-cylinder engine.

"While some turbochargers sacrifice smooth drivability with high operating boost pressures in the 20 psi range, Genesis Coupe uses a refined, low-boost calibration for smoothness and efficiency," said Derek Joyce, Genesis Coupe product manager. "We could have opted solely for big performance numbers, but our focus for the 2.0T was a more balanced package."

Genesis Coupe product highlights

With the start of U.S. market production now just a few months away, Hyundai Motor America is releasing model configuration and color choices for the 2010 Hyundai Genesis Coupe.

"Genesis sedan has set a new benchmark for the $35,000-$40,000 premium sedan, and we think Genesis Coupe will do the same in the sport coupe segment," Krafcik said. "From our 30-mpg 2.0T with its low-pressure intercooled 4-cylinder turbo, to the 3.8 Track model with an estimated 310-hp and Brembo braking system, Genesis Coupe offers a wide range of powertrain and performance choices for driving enthusiasts of all stripes."

There are seven basic Genesis Coupe configurations:

-- 2.0T

-- 2.0T Premium

-- 2.0T Track (6-speed manual transmission only)

-- 2.0T R-Spec (late availability, 6-speed manual transmission only)

-- 3.8

-- 3.8 Grand Touring

-- 3.8 Track

GENESIS COUPE 2.0T: A MORE EFFICIENT TAKE ON THE REAR-WHEEL DRIVE SPORT COUPE

Standard equipment includes:

-- 2.0-liter, low-pressure, turbocharged, intercooled 4-cylinder engine

with dual continuously variable valve timing delivering an estimated

210-hp (regular), estimated 220 hp (premium), an estimated 223 ft-lbs

of torque (at just 2,000 rpm), an estimated 30 mpg EPA highway rating

and an estimated top speed of 137 mph

-- M6VR1 6-speed manual transmission (Optional: A5SR1 5-speed electronic

automatic transmission with lockup torque converter and steering

wheel-mounted paddle-shift Shiftronic controls)

-- 18-inch Euroflange alloy wheels with staggered Bridgestone Potenza

RE92A tires (P225/45VR18 front, P245/45VR18 rear)

-- Electronic Stability Control with ABS, Electronic Brake-Force

Distribution and Brake Assist

-- 12.6-inch ventilated front rotors with 60mm single piston floating

caliper

-- 12.4-inch solid rear rotors with 43mm single piston floating caliper

-- Sport-tuned MacPherson strut dual-link front suspension and five-link

rear independent suspension, 24mm front stabilizer bar, 19mm rear

stabilizer bar

-- Strut brace

-- Quick-ratio hydraulic steering (2.7 turns lock-to-lock)

-- Tire Pressure Monitoring System

-- Front, side, side air curtain air bags

-- Active front head restraints

-- Driver's lumbar support

-- Black-out front lower fascia

-- Trip computer

-- Air conditioning

-- Satin silver and chrome interior accents

-- Keyless entry system

-- Leather-wrapped steering wheel and shift knob

-- Power windows (one-touch up and down), door locks and mirrors

-- AM/FM/XM/CD audio system with six speakers

-- USB/iPod/Aux jack connectivity

-- Steering wheel audio controls

-- Cruise control

-- Projector beam headlamps with auto light control

-- Integrated Bluetooth including steering wheel controls

-- Temporary spare with steel wheel (T135/90D17)

The 2.0T Premium model adds or substitutes:

-- Power driver seat

-- 360-watt AM/FM/XM/CD-changer Infinity premium audio system with 10

speakers including DVC subwoofer, eight-channel external amplifier,

and diversity antenna

-- Smart Key with push-button start

-- Electrochromic mirror with HomeLink and compass

-- Sunroof

-- Navigation system (mid-year availability)

The factory-tuned 2.0T Track model builds from the 2.0T Premium, adding/substituting:

-- 19-inch Euroflange gunmetal finish alloy wheels with staggered

high-performance summer-compound Bridgestone Potenza RE050A tires

(P225/40YR19 front, P245/40YR19 rear)

-- Unique Brembo braking system with 13.4-inch ventilated front rotors,

42mm four-piston fixed front calipers (red), 13.0-inch ventilated rear

rotors, 32mm+28mm four-piston fixed rear calipers (red)

-- Unique track-tuned suspension, higher-rate coil springs,

higher-control shock absorbers, 25mm front stabilizer bar, 22mm rear

stabilizer bar, strut brace

-- Torsen-type limited-slip differential

-- Black leather bolster seats with high-friction red cloth insert

-- Aluminum pedals

-- Aero windshield wipers

-- Rear spoiler

-- Xenon HID headlamps

-- Fog lamps

-- Lightweight temporary spare with aluminum wheel (T135/80D18)

-- Navigation system (mid-year availability)

-- Note: Automatic transmission not available with 2.0T Track

Later in the model year, a tuner-focused performance model, R-Spec, will arrive at Hyundai dealerships. Genesis Coupe R-Spec is meant to be the ultimate upgradeable, affordable, turbocharged rear-wheel drive performance platform. R-Spec equipment includes:

-- 2.0-liter low-pressure turbocharged intercooled four-cylinder engine

with dual continuously variable valve timing delivering an estimated

210-hp (regular), estimated 220-hp (premium), an estimated 30 mpg EPA

highway rating and an estimated top speed of 137 mph

-- 6-speed manual transmission

-- Electronic Stability Control with ABS, Electronic Brake-Force

Distribution and Brake Assist

-- 19-inch Euroflange gunmetal finish alloy wheels with staggered

high-performance summer-compound Bridgestone Potenza RE050A tires

(P225/40YR19 front, P245/40YR19 rear)

-- Brembo braking system with 13.4-inch ventilated front rotors, 42mm

four-piston fixed front calipers (red), 13.0-inch ventilated rear

rotors, 32mm+28mm four-piston fixed rear calipers (red)

-- Track model suspension tuning (higher-rate coil springs,

higher-control shock absorbers, 25mm front stabilizer bar, 22mm rear

stabilizer bar, strut brace)

-- Torsen-type limited-slip differential

-- Quick-ratio hydraulic steering (2.7 turns lock-to-lock)

-- Tire Pressure Monitoring System

-- Front, side, side air curtain air bags

-- Active front head restraints

-- Driver's lumbar support

-- Air conditioning

-- Keyless entry system

-- Leather-wrapped steering wheel and shift knob

-- Power windows (one-touch up and down), door locks and mirrors

-- AM/FM/XM/CD audio system with six speakers

-- USB/iPod/Aux jack connectivity

-- Projector beam headlamps

-- Lightweight temporary spare with aluminum wheel (T135/80D18)

-- Note: Automatic transmission not available with R-Spec

GENESIS 3.8: 310 HORSEPOWER AND STANDARD LEATHER INTERIOR -- A NEW BENCHMARK FOR PERFORMANCE AND REFINEMENT IN ITS CLASS

Standard equipment includes 2.0T equipment, and adds or substitutes:

-- 3.8L DOHC V6 engine with dual continuously variable valve timing

delivering an estimated 306-hp (regular), 310-hp (premium), and a top

speed of 149 mph

-- M6VR2 6-speed manual transmission (Optional: ZF 6HP19 6-speed

electronic automatic with lockup torque converter and steering

wheel-mounted paddle-shift Shiftronic controls)

-- Black leather seats

-- Fully automatic temperature control

-- Premium door sill plates

-- Chrome front fascia accents

In addition to 3.8 equipment, the 3.8 Grand Touring adds or substitutes:

-- Unique brown leather seat interior environment

-- Power driver seat

-- Heated driver and passenger seat

-- 360-watt AM/FM/XM/CD-changer Infinity premium audio system with 10

speakers including DVC subwoofer, eight-channel external amplifier,

and diversity antenna

-- Smart Key with push-button start

-- Xenon HID headlamps

-- Electrochromic mirror with HomeLink and compass

-- Heated mirrors with outside turn signal indicators

-- Backup warning system

-- Sunroof

-- Navigation system (mid-year availability)

The factory-tuned 3.8 Track model deletes backup warning system and chrome front fascia accents from the Grand Touring model, and adds or substitutes:

-- Black leather seats

-- 19-inch Euroflange gunmetal finish alloy wheels with staggered

high-performance summer-compound Bridgestone Potenza RE050A tires

(P225/40YR19 front, P245/40YR19 rear)

-- Unique Brembo braking system with 13.4-inch ventilated front rotors,

42mm four-piston fixed front calipers (red), 13.0-inch ventilated rear

rotors, 32mm+28mm four-piston fixed rear calipers (red)

-- Unique track-tuned suspension, higher-rate coil springs,

higher-control shock absorbers, 25mm front stabilizer bar, 22mm rear

stabilizer bar, strut brace

-- Torsen-type limited-slip differential

-- Aluminum pedals

-- Aero windshield wipers

-- Rear spoiler

-- Black-out front lower fascia

-- Xenon HID headlamps

-- Fog lamps

-- Lightweight temporary spare with aluminum wheel (T135/80D18)

Genesis Coupe will be available in nine exterior colors:

-- Karussell White

-- Bathurst Black

-- Silverstone

-- Nordschleife Gray

-- Acqua Minerale Blue

-- Tsukuba Red

-- Mirabeau Blue

-- Lime Rock Green

-- Interlagos Yellow

Genesis Coupe features four different interior themes:

-- Black environment, premium black cloth seats (2.0T, 2.0T Premium,

R-Spec)

-- Black environment, black leather-bolstered seats with high-friction

red cloth insert (2.0T Track)

-- Black environment, black leather seats (3.8, 3.8 Track)

-- Black environment, saddle brown leather seats (3.8 Grand Touring)

HYUNDAI MOTOR AMERICA

Hyundai Motor America, headquartered in Fountain Valley, Calif., is a subsidiary of Hyundai Motor Co. of South Korea. Hyundai vehicles are distributed throughout the United States by Hyundai Motor America and are sold and serviced through 800 dealerships nationwide.

Journalists are invited to visit our news media web site: http://www.hyundainews.com

SOURCE Hyundai Motor America

http://www.hyundainews.com

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sounds to me we have a GN re incarnate.... except it aint a buick... and it dont look as cool either.

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Damn that Tiberon is ugly. It might be a little cheaper and offer more bang for the buck, but who really wants to be seen in that? It defeats the whole purpose of buying a coupe.

The Genesis sedan is ok though.

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Okay, it ain't pretty - but in alot of ways I'm jealous. How right for the times would a 3300 lbs, turbo-4, 30 MPG, base model Camaro be?

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:huh:
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LOL

Big deal. A 250hp Challenger is the bottom of the line V6 entry level Challenger.

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0-60 times seem to similar for the V6 Genesis and V6 Camaro. GM claims 0-60 of 6.1 seconds for the Camaro and I've seen anywhere from 5.9-6.3 seconds for the Genesis.

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It's all well can good if you don't count oh say, the Camaro SS, Challenger R/T and SRT8.

Kudos to Hyundai for building a RWD coupe, but while it doesn't look terrible it can't hold a candle to the Challenger, Camaro, and Mustang as far as looks go.

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What I can't figure out is... why does this get the Genesis name? It has very little to do with the sedan save for the RWD platform.

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It's all well can good if you don't count oh say, the Camaro SS, Challenger R/T and SRT8.

Kudos to Hyundai for building a RWD coupe, but while it doesn't look terrible it can't hold a candle to the Challenger, Camaro, and Mustang as far as looks go.

I agree. But I'm glad it's another entry into the RWD, 2+2, segment. And one which fills a niche similar to Nissan's old 240SX.

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What I can't figure out is... why does this get the Genesis name? It has very little to do with the sedan save for the RWD platform.

I guess they had to name it something. Plus, I think that Hyundai wanted to reserve the Tiburon name for a possible lower end FWD coupe.

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Seems like it will offer pretty good performance (for a V6 car) but it shouldn't be called Genesis coupe. They shouldn't use a name twice and they can't' position the Genesis as a luxury car competitor if there is a $25k college kid coupe with the same name.

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Seems like it will offer pretty good performance (for a V6 car) but it shouldn't be called Genesis coupe. They shouldn't use a name twice and they can't' position the Genesis as a luxury car competitor if there is a $25k college kid coupe with the same name.

Yeah, it's odd that they are both named the same.

I think they probably really intended to launch a Genesis brand, with the luxury sedan and sports coupe as the two models of that brand, since these models have nothing really in common with the mass market FWD Hyundai brand... but that would have obviously been a much bigger investment.

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Damn that Tiberon is ugly. It might be a little cheaper and offer more bang for the buck, but who really wants to be seen in that? It defeats the whole purpose of buying a coupe.

The Genesis sedan is ok though.

The Tiberon is indeed ugly. It is almost as bad as the Maxima IMHO. :blink:

Chris

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I guess they had to name it something. Plus, I think that Hyundai wanted to reserve the Tiburon name for a possible lower end FWD coupe.

Seems like it will offer pretty good performance (for a V6 car) but it shouldn't be called Genesis coupe. They shouldn't use a name twice and they can't' position the Genesis as a luxury car competitor if there is a $25k college kid coupe with the same name.

Well, let's see... tiburón is Spanish for shark. What's more beastly than a shark?

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Well, let's see... tiburón is Spanish for shark. What's more beastly than a shark?

Problem is the Tiburon car is too mild for the name, I think...that would be as if Dodge had named the Neon coupe 'Viper'..

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Problem is the Tiburon car is too mild for the name, I think...that would be as if Dodge had named the Neon coupe 'Viper'..

OK, so let's call the new car the Tiburon, and call the next iteration of the current Tiburon... the Pececito, for "goldfish." :D

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But the Camaro is better looking, and that's what matters...

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Well, let's see... tiburón is Spanish for shark. What's more beastly than a shark?

I guess the first thing that comes to mind is....

2007-11-05Rosie.jpg

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The Genesis coupe is so much smaller than the Camaro and Challenger it's not a valid comparison. They should be comparing it to the A5, GTR or G37, but it probably won't come out so well.

They did create Genesis as a new brand … in Korea.

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Might I suggest a new title for this thread?

Hyundai Genesis Coupe Beats Camaro and Challenger in Ugly-to-Weight Ratio
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I suppose I'm one of the few that actually likes it (except for the weird dip in the beltline aft of the doors, that I do not like), and am eagerly looking forward to seeing it in person. It's like a modern Nissan 240SX with much more factory performance, except from Hyundai. What's not to like, besides that last point? :P

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Actually, I'm looking forward to seeing how it does. And I also see it as a modern equivalent to a 240SX.

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Maybe not a strict equivalent, as Nissan has way more motorsports heritage behind it than Hyundai. I am still looking forward to Subaru and Nissan's affordable RWD 2+2 coupes. Honda could also make a fun car in this genre.
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