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GM Sales Slide 41%

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Bad, but not unexpected.

The comments over there are entirely ignorant.

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Yeah, not unexpected, but still.... ick!

Though good to see that Mailbu sales are still UP despite everything else sucking in general.

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Ouch...only 265 Sky sales...astra is tanking worse than ever....OUCH!

Local Saturn Dealer is advertising the 2009 Astra at something like 12,500with alloys, etc.

GM can't be making any money at this price.

Chris

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Ouch...only 265 Sky sales...astra is tanking worse than ever....OUCH!

GM can't be making any money at this price.

Chris

Then again, I couldn't imagine Nov being a good month for a convertible sports car, outside of Fla and the SW.

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It's too bad about Saturn, I think they are dying. People still think of them as 'cheap small plastic cars' and balk at the higher prices

But as said above, the Malibu is doing good is spite of it all. Should push the Cruze into production asap.

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Once again, Saturn outsells Buick month after month.... but put Saturn on the chopping block.

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Once again, Saturn outsells Buick month after month.... but put Saturn on the chopping block.

:rolleyes:

Pontiac outsold Saturn yet again... but Pontiac IS on the block.

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It's funny how there's a push towards smaller, more fuel efficient cars, and yet the G8 outsells the Astra (though by very little).

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Ouch...only 265 Sky sales...astra is tanking worse than ever....OUCH!

Local Saturn Dealer is advertising the 2009 Astra at something like 12,500with alloys, etc.

GM can't be making any money at this price.

Chris

what is their name and number? the dealers here won't freaking budge.

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Desrosier Canadian sales

And yet Canada still defies gravity with total vehicle sales ONLY down 10.3% for the month!

GM is down 23.4% for the month

Ford is up 1.3% (still have leaes around here!)

Chrysler is down 16% for November.

Honda is down 27.5% for the month! :mind-blowing:

Toyota UP 0.5% for the month. <_<

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This was expect with the ending of the Employee discount and now the redtag pricing should help December sales some. When compared to Toyota and all the bad press and them being down 41 next to GM's 31 doesn't seem to bad. I am not to suprised but still sick then again compare them to Toyota we didn't fair to bad.

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what is their name and number? the dealers here won't freaking budge.

If your serious, I could do some checking around. I saw this in the paper when I was in the doctors office waiting for my son...

Chris

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Desrosier Canadian sales

And yet Canada still defies gravity with total vehicle sales ONLY down 10.3% for the month!

GM is down 23.4% for the month

Ford is up 1.3% (still have leaes around here!)

Chrysler is down 16% for November.

Honda is down 27.5% for the month! :mind-blowing:

Toyota UP 0.5% for the month. <_<

Honda has been dropping around here in central Ohio also, and with the big Honda plants just up the road in Marysville, one would think this would be the LAST place Honda would drop.

Chris

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They have a 285 day supply of G8s and Holden may end the export program all together. The G8 flopped like I predicted, because it is too heavy, and not tailored to the American market. Plus Pontiac's brand image is dead.

Enclave down over 40% to 2,000 sales, GM bragged about how the Enclave was such a strong seller, it is a dud now, so I question if Buick has any life left in it.

CTS was down 48% as well. GM's recent products, though improved still aren't enough. And the bad models are ruining the reputation of the good ones. They need products that blow the CTS and Malibu out of the water.

GM had to suffer massive failure like they are in now to change. I knew this day was coming years ago and they had to shed brands and build quality not quantity. Now GM is forced to make radical change to stay alive, and they will be better for it. When GM gets lean and focused, in 5 years they may be making the best cars in the world.

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:rolleyes:

Pontiac outsold Saturn yet again... but Pontiac IS on the block.

Yup..... I don't get it. They may as well just have Chevy and Cadillac, kill everything else and be done with it <_<

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They have a 285 day supply of G8s and Holden may end the export program all together. The G8 flopped like I predicted, because it is too heavy, and not tailored to the American market. Plus Pontiac's brand image is dead.

Wrong. It flopped because of the high fuel costs which scared people away from large cars and into small ones, followed by the automotive market crash.

Every review has been positive about it.

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Wrong. It flopped because of the high fuel costs which scared people away from large cars and into small ones, followed by the automotive market crash.

Every review has been positive about it.

I drove one and love the car, I was very comfortable in it. If I were in the market for a new car or lightly used, I'd seriously consider the G8.

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Wrong. It flopped because of the high fuel costs which scared people away from large cars and into small ones, followed by the automotive market crash.

Every review has been positive about it.

Fuel isn't expensive now and the G8 is not selling. Others cars that get similar mileage sell much better than the G8 (Lucerne, CTS, 5-series, E-class, 300, Charger, DTS, etc).

The problem is people that want a sport sedan, don't want a large, heavy car, and the G8 inside and out is designed for Australia, not the USA. The GTO failed because of styling, G8 is a repeated mistake. Despite the positive reviews, no one wants the car. Pontiac can't support a $30k car it seems, brand image is now rebadged rental car.

Olds outsold Saturn and Buick, yet they killed Oldsmobile which was over 100 years old, so nothing is untouchable when it comes to killing brands. Saturn has fewer dealers, so it is easier to close them down.

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They need products that blow the CTS and Malibu out of the water.

BMW and Mercedes can't even blow the CTS out of the water.

Honda and Toyota can't blow the Malibu out of the water.

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yet you expect GM to blow itself out of the water?

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Fuel isn't expensive now and the G8 is not selling. Others cars that get similar mileage sell much better than the G8 (Lucerne, CTS, 5-series, E-class, 300, Charger, DTS, etc).

The problem is people that want a sport sedan, don't want a large, heavy car, and the G8 inside and out is designed for Australia, not the USA. The GTO failed because of styling, G8 is a repeated mistake. Despite the positive reviews, no one wants the car. Pontiac can't support a $30k car it seems, brand image is now rebadged rental car.

Olds outsold Saturn and Buick, yet they killed Oldsmobile which was over 100 years old, so nothing is untouchable when it comes to killing brands. Saturn has fewer dealers, so it is easier to close them down.

You're still full of it.

People can't get financing to buy a $30k car. The G8 is an unknown. The Lucerne and all the rest you mentioned have name equity where the G8 does not. If GM is a fault for anything, it's this. Had the G8 been named Bonneville and marketed...like.. at all... G8 would do much better. Every review of the G8 mentions the weight and then says you never notice it. So there goes your idea.

It's a credit/finance thing. Unfortunately the G8 will suffer solely because of a bad economy.

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As usual, SMK proves yet again that he can't see the forest for the trees.

The economy and the credit crisis are the actual reasons that G8 sales are down. In fact, the G8 is currently outselling the Prius by a slim margin.

To judge the viability of any car in a market as battered as this is flawed thinking.

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