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...on RVs?

I'd like to learn a bit more about them.

Class A, Class C, and trailers.

Just want to get a feel for what's what in that world.

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C-CLASS

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C-Class are based on Ford E-Series, Chevrolet Express/GMC Sierra, Dodge/MB Sprinter etc.

A-Class

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A-Class are based on heavy duty truck platforms and come in Diesel and Gas verisons.

Diesel Pusher's as they are called mean the motor is in the back I believe and are more like tour buses and are much more expensive.

Hope that helps.

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Not an expert, but I spent about 15 years vacationing in RVs w/ my folks... their first when I was a kid was a 22 ft Mobile Traveler Class C ('73 Dodge Tradesman cab, 318), followed by 3 front engined Class As...a '78 25 ft Southwind (Dodge 440), an '81 28 ft Pace Arrow (Chevy 454) and an '85 33 ft Winnebago Chieftain (Chevy 454). With the Class As, we towed cars on the back to use to go out and about from the RV parks.

RVing is a lot of fun, albeit an expensive way to travel(the cost of an RV + gas + upkeep). Probably some bargains out there in older RVs, though..

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Yeah, I have the basics down.

But who makes a good one?

Which ones are not worth having?

What features are a big deal?

I'm hoping to get a handle on that sort of thing.

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RVing is a lot of fun, albeit an expensive way to travel(the cost of an RV + gas + upkeep).

Except when it's time to suck out the $h!ter! I recommend gloves ... :smilewide:

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Fleetwood (maker of many brands--Southwind, Pace Arrow, Midas, Tioga, etc) and Winnebago used to have good reputations for mainstream brands..not sure how they are now. I know they are still both in the biz. High end brands include Holiday Rambler, Airstream, Monaco, Beaver, Foretravel. But my RV knowledge stops at about 1992, though...

Good features to have are awnings, pull out rooms (a feature seen in the last 15 years or so--pretty common now, even on Class C models), a good generator (Onan). Pusher diesels seem to be very common in Class As, they were uncommon back in the day when I was in the lifestyle.

One very cool feature on some of the high end pusher (coach style) RVs today is a basement slide-out garage that can hold a small, low car like a Miata.

Except when it's time to suck out the $h!ter! I recommend gloves ... :smilewide:

Oh yeah, my Dad always wore heavy duty rubber gloves when hooking up the Stinky Slinky (the flexible hose that connected the gray water (sewage) tank to a drain..basically the sewer hookup)

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I remember as a kid how much fun it was to go to Camping World stores w/ my Dad and shop for gadgets.

RVing is when I learned how to read maps and act as the navigator for our cross-country vacations. It really was a lot of fun, for a family w/ a couple dogs.

And I used to help out w/ the hitch in hooking up the tow car. Over about 10 years, my folks' tow car for the RVs progressed from a '77 Chevy Vega to an '81 Chevette Scooter to an '84 Ford Escort Diesel to an '88 Bronco II (the last two became mine when I was in college and grad school).

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One thing to note is some RV companies get a lot of their parts from either ford or GM for their motor homes. Monaco is, in my opinion, the best RV that isn't a million bucks, but they are still really expensive.

Camino, since you are very knowledgeable about vehicle mechanics and craftsmanship, I bet you could figure out which one was best just by looking at the RV and feeling the parts.

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You should change your name to the Head Skunk with the Stinky Slinky. :smilewide:

Whoa!

I'm not so sure I like that. :suburban:

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One thing to note is some RV companies get a lot of their parts from either ford or GM for their motor homes. Monaco is, in my opinion, the best RV that isn't a million bucks, but they are still really expensive.

Camino, since you are very knowledgeable about vehicle mechanics and craftsmanship, I bet you could figure out which one was best just by looking at the RV and feeling the parts.

Thanks for the compliment, and the input.

I'll take my time and learn all I can.

I would worry about anything with a Ford Transmission - bad track record there.

I've seen that John Deere makes some of the chassis.

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Our C-Class is a Royal, based on a 2000 F-450 (beefier components all around) with the 7.3. Royal was a brand owned by Travelaire, I believe. It had rot and mold in the walls of the bed compartment, which was discovered and repaired last year, which cost a bit of money. The Onan generator also has a problem with its solenoid.

However, it has a mountain of storage space, which was handy for our family of five during eight-week trips. Plus, it's been through its share of abuse because it's been up in the Northwest Territories, past the Arctic Circle, in Alaska, Eastern Canada, and the Eastern US Seaboard. It's also been to Mexico, and the Southwest US, as well as the Midwest. This is one RV which doesn't stay in Florida for six months of the year. :P

Travelaire is a Canadian company based in Alberta, and it's always good to buy Canadian!!!

From my experience, the RV's from Yellowstone had fantastic build quality. However, it's been a while since I've stepped into one, so chances are, the competition have kept up.

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The only way to go is to track down one of these bad boys:

A modern GMC motorhome would be cool..didn't the original use Toronado-derived FWD parts? Maybe a modern one w/ Lambda parts...

What about a B-class Sprinter convo?

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-RBB

I saw about 1/2 dozen of these yesterday on a local RV dealer lot.

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Check out the 460 Ford powered units. Yes, a few more tranny issues, but most of the guys I know that tow with them prefer the 460 Ford powerplant for wahtever reason.

Don't IMHO buy a 350 powered or 351 powered motorhome, even a smaller one, as they are under powered. And seem to use as much fuel as the ones with the larger motors.

Good Luck!

Chris

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Check out the 460 Ford powered units. Yes, a few more tranny issues, but most of the guys I know that tow with them prefer the 460 Ford powerplant for wahtever reason.

Don't IMHO buy a 350 powered or 351 powered motorhome, even a smaller one, as they are under powered. And seem to use as much fuel as the ones with the larger motors.

Good Luck!

Chris

Some of the Ford Class C Econoline based motorhomes also have the V10. Friends of mine have one, about 22 ft..mostly use it for tailgating at Broncos games.

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I did one search locally and found two Ford 460 units with low miles and not functional due to either the engine or trans (these were both under 60k miles).

I think a Ford powertrain is out of the running.

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I would get a diesel if you could afford one...

But that's just me and probably not realistic...

Chris

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I think a Ford powertrain is out of the running.

If you're in the C-Class game, then you'll be hard pressed to find a unit that's based on a GMC frame, and I don't think they had diesel options, either. If you want a GM powertrain, you may end up having to tow a fifth-wheel, or hitch-trailer.

However, our Ford 7.3 has been great, and it's amazing how much grunt it has given the size of the motorhome; when going up hills on highways, it seems to be passing more vehicles than being passed. The economy is also pretty decent too.

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I know that the Ford units are far more common, but I'm not comfortable with them.

A trailer might be a real option though.

All of this is just hypothetical at best right now.

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I like the idea of a trailer or a 5th wheel, esp. if you can hang on to the Silverado.

Chris

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