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Sixty8panther

Buh-bye Seville

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Okay, I'm going to be corny and unoriginal by posting the same kind of thread that Camino did a while back. Basically this is you opportunity to influence what I buy when I trade in 1997 Cadillac STS.

Before we start here's a few ground rules:

RWD is pretty much a must, that's the only thing that is not negotiable. Rear-biased AWD however is okay.

A FWD car would have to be extremely unique/original/rare to even be considered. You guys know I'm RWD obsessed, let's not get into semantics. Other than Lexus I will consider any RWD Car... and for the right price a GS might, I said MIGHT be tempting. A V8 is not a must but a pushrod V8 or inline-six would be prefered, esp. for low maintenace & ease of access.

Four doors strongly prefered.

Marcia has a very badly damaged disk in her back so the ease of getting the baby in/out of the car seat is a big part of this purchase decision. And of course in case of an accident it's much easier to get Sofia out of the car if it has four doors... I'm not paranoid, just realistic.

Sporty yet Elegant

This is her term not mine. Marcia is pretty picky and it's kind of hard to outdue a 1997 STS while not spending more than say $15000 on a used car. Granted I bought the STS for $7900 with 100K, but this time I'd like to go for less miles if possible.

So here's the breakdown so far:

Park Ave Ultra

I love these cars, it's one of only a few FWD cars I would even consider. The rear seat access is superb and the car gives a exceptionaly comfortable ride. Still very elegant and she can "impress" her clients with her luxurious, practical & economical Buick. Not a bad image for an accountant if you ask me.

The problem? She says it's way too Grandma-ish for her. This same exact argument applies to the Buick Roadmonster. <_<

Caprice Classic 9C1 or an Impala SS

This would be a win-win situation. I get a car I can work on and would be proud to own and the G/F still has all her needs met as well.

The problem? I'm having dificulty finding a clean one with relatively low mies I can finance :(

Last Gen. Fleetwood Brougham

Another future classic, a fantastic looking car and it's the best of both worlds, modern, luxuirios, safe but still old school & BOF with a great pushrod motor.

What says she? Styling is too conservative and it lacks any sporty-ness to it.

*sigh*

I'm trying to find a happy medium, a 1990s BMW 5-series... or perhaps a clean E-class Benz or if I can find a cheap Impala SS would fit the bill perfectly. You guys have any suggestions?

Edited by Sixty8panther

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pow    106

At $15K there are tons of 5-series to choose from. The E34 models (89-95) are cheap used, while an E39 (97-03) would definitely "outdue" a '97 STS. Good luck with your searching.

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mjdecker    0

Should we assume some (but not complete) bias toward GM?  First thing that came to mind was a Merauder.

Or even a crown vic with a sport package, some aftermarket wheels and some duel flowmasters (or any other brand you perfer). Not to mention that when driving up behind people either they will pull over or drive very very slow..

Well the price limit of $15k rules out a Charger... What's your/her opinions on an older Audi A4? or a BMW 3/5 series?

Maybe something like this?

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Camino LS6    866

Recent 5 series are going to break the bank for one that's decent.

Look into 3 series sedans the used prices have been dropping lately and you could even get an Xi model (AWD).

The Impala SS is a fine choice. There is one in a local Trader rag around here with something like 87 original miles. I think they want 20k for it though.

Edit: I just checked and it has 83 miles and they want $27,900 for it. Guess that's out.

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Edit: I just checked and it has 83 miles and they want $27,900 for it. Guess that's out.

See that's exactly what I'm talking about... and yet Chevy is still not making strides to repace this car... F*** that car probably cost less than $27 NEW!

We need a B-body rreplacement! Do we have to keep :deadhorse: ???

Anyway back on topic, a dealer up in Plaistow, NH had a nice clean 330xi but it was too much money and an automatic to boot. I'll settle for a autopmatic B-body because I don;t have a choice but both me and Marcia prefer sticks and so if we're buying a BMW it will not be an automatic. Call me a weirdo butbuying the Ultimate Driving Machine and lettig it decide when and how to shift is backwards. :P

Decka:

Althogh she thinks it's a bit small I think a 3-series would be a great car for Marcia. If that car was in the New England area instead of Texas I'd be seriously considerign it. (untill she'd start bitching about the ugly rims and green paint :rolleyes: )

PurdueGuy:

Absolutley... I'd love to find a GM car that would work! If the RWD STS had come out in like 2000 ther're be NO question of what to get.

Empowah's got the right idea with that 5-series I think. Mean time I'd be happy with a gently used Police Interceptor or even just a black Crown Vic but she will not go for it. Too much fo a bias against Ford. Damnit I trained her too well. ^_^

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GM1:

The sedan would be perfect in the navy blue color of the wagon. She's into dark colors (thought it's not a must) and has some strange bias against any wagons except ofr the Magnum.

BTW: We're still trying to buy a house which is why a Charger is out of the equasion for now... besides the Camaro will be out soon enought and I'll be buying THAT new. :metal:

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XP715    6

All of the suggestions I've made so far she shoots down because she has &#036;h&#33; taste in cars. Bring something home and tell her to deal with it; who wears the pants, anyways? Oh wait; I remember!

*whip crack*

:lol:

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pow    106

I found several pre-owned Dodge Magnums on cars.com for less than 15k.  That would sound like a solid choice for you guys...

With a 2.7L V6, wheel covers, nylon upholstery, and four-speed automatic?

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z28luvr01    170

LOL @ XP

As I put on my chain-mail vest, I'll ask this: since you're thinking of a PA, would you consider one of it's G-body siblings...namely, the Aurora and the Bonneville?

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Croc    268

With a 2.7L V6, wheel covers, nylon upholstery, and four-speed automatic?

I didn't look at the options, just saw RWD Magnum for under 15k. It has what he listed: RWD, sporty yet elegant looking, 5 doors.

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Nick    31

At $15K there are tons of 5-series to choose from. The E34 models (89-95) are cheap used, while an E39 (97-03) would definitely "outdue" a '97 STS. Good luck with your searching.

Beat me to it. An e39 might be a little out of range...well, if it is a 540 that is. You could find a decent 528 for 15 atleast...I'd deffinitely look into an e34 5er. They are very good, solid cars. For 15 you could easily find a nice 540 in clean shape. Or then there are e36 3ers which you will be able to find very easily...hell, for 15 you could even find a 4-door M3 if that's what you want. You could possibly even find an e46 323 for 15 or less I think also. Or if you want something bigger you could look at the e38 7ers...they actually have depreciated quite a bit and you can find them real cheap. Unfortunately the main reasons why they are so cheap is because of reliability issues I believe...

I'll check around on auto trader for you...If you don't care for a bimmer, then I'd say go for a b-body SS deffinitely.

What's your zip-code 68? I'll do some checking around your area...

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pow    106

This seems pretty good... $14,790, 74K miles, sports pack, 5-speed manual, and 150 miles away from Boston, though it's a wagon and "only" a 2.5 liter:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/525I-WAGON-...1QQcmdZViewItem

This one looks good, but it's an automatic:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/528I-SPORT-...1QQcmdZViewItem

First year cars are generally less reliable, but if the price is right... '97 540i manual w/ 81K miles:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1997-BMW-54...1QQcmdZViewItem

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pow    106

Continuing with the Lincoln theme, how much does a used LS run?

Pretty cheap, which reminds me of the Catera or maybe a CTS.

Why are you selling the Seville anyway, '68?

Edit: http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/5-SPEED-200...1QQcmdZViewItem

Florida is kinda far away.... but at least we now know a CTS for $15K is possible.

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Croc    268

There's always the gen-II Catera. Those were very nice, especially in Catera Sport trim. All the reliability gremlins were pretty much gone by 2000.

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Variance    0

These mid- & hi-line bmws and infinitis cannot be cheap to maintain/ repair!

I've heard the BMWs aren't cheap to fix. (Nick would know more about this, I'd think.)

As far as the Q goes, some first generation Qs (not the one I posted) had an electronically controlled air suspension that was costly to fix. I'm not sure if the second generation ones had them available.

That said, any used car can be reasonably reliable if treated well in the past.

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Drew Dowdell    5,000

There's always the gen-II Catera.  Those were very nice, especially in Catera Sport trim.  All the reliability gremlins were pretty much gone by 2000.

Agreed, final model year Cateras were actually fairly good in the reliability department. They're not speed demons, nor are they great on gas, but they are solid and handle very well.

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