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$42k for a 2.0 4cyl, FWD and CVT....beyond mediocre..that's the kind of hardware I'd expect in a $20k econobox....

Good lord... Nothing with a luxury brand should have ANYTHING with 169hp.

Took a 6-hour round trip in the Kia Forte over the weekend. Coming out of my truck and into the Kia, I was annoyed with the amount of road noise. I am wondering if the UX suffers from road noise... which should be banished in all luxe makes.

In all fairness, that would be a different market and the rules been played with are waaaaay different than what rules we play with. And moreso to it than that our luxury rules are pretty much bigger is better, which not only lends itself to mean bigger engines and more power, but it also means huge, large, heavy vehicles to go with those bigger engines, and those huge vehicles actually do require bigger engines and bigger outputs BECAUSE they got bigger. And we still play by those rules somewhat today. In Europe though, old cities exist, and when I mean old cities, I really do mean old. Quebec City is as old as it gets in North America, but by European standards, Quebec City is STILL in its infancy... With that being said, there arent many wide and open spaces in Europe to accomodate EVERYONE to own our kind of luxury for cars. And after 2 devastating wars on that continent, petrol rations and taxes on said petrol to rebuild have made their mark as to why in Europe, small cars and small engines continue to be. So... Yeah...I also agree with CCAP's statement. In OUR market for OUR market. Thankfully, I dont live in Europe, nor do I ever plan to live in Europe. Europe, could kiss my Greek ass... (great history Europe has, but the political hypocrisy is so much more unbearable there than here. California and Hollyweird times a thousand to give you a clue) I do see myself visiting Greece often though... its not so bad there. Really. Plus Im...Greek.

Man you should avoid going to Europe then where there a number of luxury vehicles with similar outputs to this. I mean we could say the same thing with BMW and the X1 - shared architecture with the MINI or the Cadillac XT4 which shares the same E2XX as the outgoing Buick Regal and Chevrolet Malibu. Just because it shares a platform with the RAV4 and the CH-R, doesn't mean it feels or drives cheap. That platform happens to be one my favorites as it how blends comfort and sport. Possibly in other markets ?

As far as domestic competition, the Cadillac XT4 has a 2.0 4 with 237hp, and a 9-spd auto, and the Lincoln Corsair 2.0 is 250hp w/ an 8-spd auto. Lexus definitely comes up short.

Is it kick start?

2.7T I4 in the Silverado? Yeah, that's ridiculous as well...CAFE regulations be damned.

Point(s) also taken on my part on your rebuttal. True, but I was more talking about how we went from normal sized cars from the end of WW2 to the excess craze that happened from the mid-1950s that lasted all the way to the mid-1970s and each year in that time period, chrome got more utilized, wheelbases increased, cars got longer and wider, etc. Granted, 1920s and 1930s luxury cars were huge too, but that is for another discussion another day. Yes, todays cars are heavier, but they arent bigger or wider. Ill secede some of my rant, its true that us too, in North America, we are heading to a more European and Asian trend of going smaller. Some reasoning is that of what I said about Europe. But more of the polluting side of petrol cars rather than rationing it. But...its the governmental push worldwide that is forcing us North Americans to go that route. At least we still have our wide open spaces though... And our 2500 and 3500 heavy duty pick-up trucks as a last middle finger salute to all opposed of our excessive way of life!!!

I believe mercedes is selling a vehicle with only 188HP- that's the same level as lexus here. Sad.

I haven't spent any time behind the wheel of the XT4, so I can only express what it is like to sit in it. The XT4 has a slightly larger back seat than the UX, especially in legroom. I was getting photos of the interior yesterday and my knees were in the back of the front passenger seat. I also would say the infotainment system is better because you don't have to use that stupid touchpad controller. But I think the UX has a nicer interior both in terms of design and material quality. I also like the looks the UX better. For what I have been reading, the XT4 does have a slightly more uncomfortable ride, along with a fair amount of road noise. Also a number of features such as adaptive cruise control are optional on the XT4. The closest vehicle I have driven to the UX is the XC40 I drove last year. I think the Volvo is more luxurious, slightly better looking, and offers better performance. But the UX feels more lively in terms of handling and is more maneuverable in tight spaces.

Amazing how GM gets kicked in the head for alleged rebadge jobs by some folks yet this re-skinned RAV4 doesn't even register a blip by those same folks. I'm with ccap on this one and will that 169HP on ANY luxury brand is downright criminal.

WOW, Such an ugly ass. I would love to know how you feel it compares to other luxury especially the XT4.

There is literally no 2 brands more close conceptually & execution-wise than Jeep & Hummer. They fought over their grille designs being too similar, FFS.

The base cloth seats are certainly nothing to write home about, and the headrests are just old blocks that don't adjust much (that did bug me), but comfy is this car's mantra. Touch it up with a few more new things, or even the commonly optioned leather/alcantara seats with bigger bolsters, etc. and you're still good to go. Can't go wrong with this platform. In a world of tiny turbos, bizarre transmissions, etc., a well baked RWD gut that's beyond proven, a perfect ZF originated 8 speed, still up to date features, etc. they're in their own class. Pardon me, while I go try to see if I can get a rental one again......

Maybe it'll also have a 'douchey poser rubbermaid' image.

Yes, it will be a low volume novelty. Rivian seems like they have a better plan..

20-something Amishman jogger in the park this morning, in formation with 6 other non-Amish joggers. He was in full dress, minus the hat. As I was leaving, I saw his horse plugged in at the hitching post. What's this world coming to?

mercedes C or E wrapped in 'shit fly' green chrome vinyl

Local show (my '40 was supposed to go to; GRRR) gorgeous '62 GP ~