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I'd be happy w/ the regular R/T in Octane Red for around $40k. Only options I'd add would be the tan/black nappa/alacantra seats, Uconnect w/ NAV, sunroof, and the Harmon/Kardon audio.

C8 Corvette vs Audi R8 vs Porsche 911 Carrera S (on track) https://www.roadandtrack.com/new-cars/a33849608/c8-corvette-vs-audi-r8-vs-porsche-911-track-test/ Porsche 911 Carrera S ($113k min) - 1:53.5 Audu R8 ($160k) - 1:54.2 Corvette Z51 ($65k) - 1:54.6 I think when Z06 comes out it will blow both Audi and Porsche out of the water while still being substantially cheaper.

Hence when it comes to my recommendation in my finished review, I likely say the base model is the better buy ($27k or so).

@David I'm only on board with the looks of the car ... and NOT the $ 100,000 price tag!

For more than $1000 LESS, I can get a 6.2L V8 Camaro. As otherS have said, get the base model 86 if you want a decent deal. All the options add up to about $8K too much especially when none the options involve more power. Listen, don’t get me wrong here. Price aside, I get the appeal of the car. As a former MR2 owner, I get it. I also get value and this car, with options, is not a good value at all.

Right?! I started having chest pain just looking at it too!! Way too big to ever be able to eat like a human, fork and knife burger for sure! ?

How unprofessional, and with a 'professional' vehicle. So in other words; what looks like a dream for a cargo/delivery van is more like "WATCH THAT FIRST STEP, DUDE!"

Im getting a heart attack just by looking at that thing. Not saying it aint good. Well...Ill be honest...too much shyte going on there, but yeah.

Love this site for BBQ stuff. https://www.instagram.com/bbqguys/

Updated styling, new radio and climate controls, improved instrument cluster, changes to the suspension, and others. Does surprisingly well off the line, where it lacks is in the mid-range Tough as you need to plan and bear in mind you'll be wondering where all of the power went in the mid-range Some aspects are better, will need to spend more time to fully answer that. The driving experience, not everyone wants something that is stupid fast. See also the Miata.

1. He doesn't mind the drive, and he's 2nd shift, so he's driving off-peak. 2. He's making more money right out of school than most people make after working white collar for 25 years, so the incentive to drive is high. You're kidding, right?

Dodge is pushing the $100,000 level for a charger and they are doing it by starting at $80,090 for the 2021 Hellcat Redeye edition. 797 HP / 707 lb-ft of torque. https://www.thedrive.com/news/36090/the-2021-dodge-charger-hellcat-redeye-is-the-most-expensive-charger-ever-at-80090

I actually just bought a set of Nito Motivos three weeks ago from a local chain, AutoTire(parent company is a national chain though so it's only "local"). I was about to buy the tires from TireBuyer and have them shipped to them. I called in advance to ask about the process and he told me they can beat their prices if I bought them directly through them. I told them what my TireBuyer quote was and they beat it by $4/tire. Not a ton but install was $19/tire so it was basically one free installation, I'll take it. $660 out the door with an alignment check(no adjustments needed or it would have been an additional $85).

This is a little stale dated for a spotting thread, so I'll put it here. Since the owner probably both has a sense of humor and doesn't mind the attention, here's something I saw in the desert at Joshua Tree National Park: Clever.

I went to a local auto repair/tire store chain in 2017 when I bought a set of Michelin Defenders for my Jeep. Having such a place in walking distance from home is a plus..

Sure, lets compare apples to oranges. FWD souped up hatchback and RWD sporty coupe. I bet you never driven either one but rush to make such statements.

What if these cars had a racing series dedicated only to them? Like how the Porsche 944s, Camaros and Miatas had. Would that make a difference in ya'lls perception? Because, Porsche 944s and Miatas of their day werent all that fast...but were/are still revered by...um...car enthusiasts. Like...arent we car enthusiasts here? Because we all act like it but then we shyte on this car... I get that this is a Toyota, and I applaud and appreciate the shytting , but at heart, this car is a dedicated sports car through and through. Yes...with a torqueless 4 banger. Subaru should have offered their WRX engine in it while Toyota could have at least tried to shoehorn their BMW sourced inline 6 from their Supra for a hyper trim 86 negating the need to LS swap. But at the end of the day, the Toyobarus are purebred sportscars... And THAT is a good thing!

Am I the only one to actually like this car? OK...NOT the Toyota, the Subie. But that is just me being douchie against Toyota. There is a reason why I like this car: ITS A 2 DOOR SPORTS CAR IN AN ERA WHEN COUPES AND/OR SPORTS CARS ARE NON-EXISTENT. And THAT to me is more than enough reason to like this car. I do not know if you guys know that I HATE HATED the 5th gen Camaro. Well...I saw 3 today randomly. Almost back to back to back going to work. 2 6 cylinder models and 1 SS. The SS made some lovely V8 sounds as I heard it while driving in back of it ....and I felt something that I havent felt in a looooong time. I miss when 2 door coupes and sports cars were all over the damned place and not some mythical unicorn in a sea of CUVs. We should be thankful these exist...especially from appliance company #1 Toyota. And no worries, those folk who want a little more ooomph from their Toyobarus https://elementtuning.com/monster-86-subaru-brz-and-toyota-86-v8-conversion/

Im sorry. I thought I was being funny. I didnt mean to twist a knife into the heart... If its any consolation, the Bruins wont get past Tampa. And although I hate the Habs, I do want them to get #25 before any other Canadian team wins the Cup and that wont be happening either this year.

I can get a better driving experience for the same and possibly cheaper coin.

Better be one hell of an ExPeRiEnCe for that kind of Coin and Weak ass engine.

There won't be enough EV users to worry about it.

You’ve got a hellva commute, or do you travel FOR work? My son is still based out of my house but works in NYState, he drives about 36K a yr right now.