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Borderline political, but funny...and True!

In other off topic discussion, this is actually a model of a human cell. Pretty cool.

Some very cool testing and proving EVs can work just fine in the extreme cold. WOW, In getting ready for the 2022 BOLT and BOLT EUV, seems dealers are slashing prices big time on the existing BOLT. 2022 Chevy Bolts drive deep '20-'21 model discounts toward $20K - Electrek Some Very cool testing of the R1T ahead of the deliveries scheduled to begin in June.

>>"Chinese scientists have used nanoplates that generate power from temperature changes to create synthetic methanol, which could be a clean way of removing CO2 from the atmosphere, as well as generating e-fuels. The paper, published in Nature Communications, describes a process of using the ambient temperature change over the course of a day to generate electricity, used to combine carbon dioxide from the air with water in order to make methanol. Methanol (the poisonous form of ethanol or "common booze") can be turned into petrol whether it's made out of moonshine or cracked out of the air on a molecular level. The latter method is more environmentally friendly, as it both doesn't require crops and ultimately removes CO2 from the atmosphere, something we crucially need to do."<< ~ The Drive

The potential legal problem isn't in testing drivers at a certain age, it's testing ONLY drivers of a certain age (vs. testing them all). Within the realm of licensed driving, that's an age-based 'discrimination'. Potentially. Well, unless the owners are dead and don't need their car repaired.

I do not see an age discrimination lawsuit by having clear defined requirements of being able to drive and control your auto. I see no reason to not use the same test the teens have to take to insure you are still able to safely drive an auto. I agree with so many EVs going 0 to 60 in 3 seconds, the auto body shops will be kept busy especially in winter.

There was one MAD magazine cover when I was young that everyone in my house laughed at, and a copy of it was even purchased. It had the MAD magazine guy with the curly red hair and an irreverent prank involving a cartoon of Sophia Loren and her cleavage. My parents even laughed at it. I looked for that image to no avail. But I found this one. This is a little different. I've seen this a lot as of late. (That's Jayne Mansfield.) It's difficult to infer what the possibilities might be here. Main cravings - it's kind of perplexing when they become food, travel (even if sitting on an airplane and playing with the video monitor), and sleep ... a lot of quality sleep.

^ That may well be the best route to addressing the problem. Some it may be 'defeated' by technology, IE; over/understeer vs. traction control/ESC. I've always urged my sons to get out & slide around in the snow, to (safely) push their vehicles in braking, acceleration, limit of handing traction to get to know it. That's an even higher level of literal training vs. whatever vehicle you road test in. I believe commercial truckers have testing akin to what you're suggesting. My brother has a Mack tri-axle dump truck and moves his own equipment; his commercial license supersedes his regular license, and infractions committed on his personal vehicles are 'counted' as commercial offenses. It's a prime reason I believe the vast majority of HD truckers drive with such care (and rightly so).

Its NOT just the testing and evaluation. Its also the actual 'how to' that is lacking. There is NO actual driver training. What I mean by driver training, I LITERALLY mean driver training. There is no training on car control. Like what a police officer has to go through. And yes...THAT kind of rigorous driving training. Maybe not the PIT maneuver, but teach drivers how to respond and drive in emergency situations. Teach them not to panic. Teach them how to understeer. How to oversteer. How to gain control back. How to brake hard. What to do when braking hard. In rain. On snow. On gravel. On clean dry tarmac. And so forth. And by teaching them these skills, only then could the mindless dolts realize the IMPORTANCE of keeping FOCUSED when driving. And who knows? Maybe when these mindless dolts master the basics at the very least and at most, be proficient in the hard skills of driving maybe they will become enthusiastic about the whole driving culture... But when driving schools across North America even fail to teach people to parallel park, what else do you expect on our roads?

Perfect for the Joke Thread!

Accidents could be quite messy.....

Cora crashed!

Especially so in the hands of slow ICE drivers!

I don’t know why you’re confused. It’s pretty clear what happened and only you are in denial about it. Perhaps it was too cerebral for you ?

No, Daft Punk

Yet still faster than a CVT equipped Rogue, or any CVT equipped vehicle for that matter.

Artists and illustrators can't let go of this. They fail to grasp that Jesus Christ was a man from the Middle East. Instead, we have become conditioned to believe that he looked like someone who may have attended today's Burning Man festival.

Cry me a river. You still contributed to it and made the above remark about EV fans before David said his piece. You really need to pay better attention instead of trying to backpedal your way out of it and ignore your part in this. And you conveniently left out the question you asked, that led to his response. And what, pray tell, would you suggest

Who?

Interesting, forecasts for the US is a doubling of EV sales in 2021 namely due to other OEMs coming out finally with EVs. Electric cars will double their market share in 2021, forecast says - Roadshow (cnet.com)

Well this channel is called Random!

If they can figure it out driving on the autobaun- we could bring it here. Many other countries around the world have better testing and evaluation of drivers than we do in the US.....

BIIIIG difference between the lawsuits regarding discrimination in employment and ones that you propose could happen regarding driving privileges. Employment affects one person at a time. Driving affects that one person plus everyone else who has to share the road with them. And there does not have to be age related testing per say. Just test every so many years (5-7 perhaps) across the board. Sorry but given that the older you get, the slower your reflexes get, I don’t see how this is really even a debatable topic.

If Nissan wanted to actually take a step forward with the Rogue (or Rogue Sport) they would find a way to put the 9-speed, from the upcoming Pathfinder (which finally ditches the CVT), in it. Oh and about 19 more horses on the larger Rogue. 200HP plus a nicely tuned 9-speed would do wonders for it.

Right; there was discrimination, then there were lawsuits / anti-discrimination laws, not the other way around. Currently, there is no age-related onerous testing of a certain portion of approved/licensed drivers. I'm merely prognosticating on the litigious nature of people and the current times we live in. I see all sorts of outcry if a '75-yr old and older regular driving skills test' is implemented. Totally disagree WRT a national testing standard. Unworkable. Now you're talking -say- having southern FL drivers in some sort of winter-environment test facility and the like. States have all sorts of different traffic laws & standards; you'd have to nationalize traffic laws, too. Last thing we need in the guise of improvement is the federal gov't's grubby hands in the matter.

Than to make everyone a better driver, then it would make sense to require every 5 yrs a drivers test of all ages if we are to remove age as an issue and improve driver skills. I would also then say we need a national standard on drivers skill and testing and I would want to incorporate defensive driving skills for Ice, Snow, Water (hydro planning) as there is far too many that are on a frost covered road, slip a little and freak out as they truly do not know how to respond. Better Safety for all then. Yes this makes it more expensive to learn to drive, but then a privilege earned is never cheap.

Except there laws regarding employment practices. The same does not exist for driving privileges.

Agree completely.

Again, a privilege, not a right. Testing should happen after a certain age. If there is such a thing as too young to drive, there damn sure is such a thing as too old. Reflexes dull over time and that is a fact, for starters.

A multi-cultural product designed at Nissan's EUROPEAN headquarters.

Hyundai IONIQ 5. I can see it selling in Europe, with its FIAT Strada/VW Golf/Hyundai Pony proportion and aesthetic, but will it play in America?

3 months old.

gm hit a mile stone with their Ultium project. The final beam was put in place for the 2.8 million sq ft Lordstown Ohio battery production site. This being a joint venture between gm and LG of Korea has some pretty cool statistics so far. The Topping out was done from start to finish in 10 months. 500,000 man hours have been spent so far on this building which is slated for a 2022 completion. Building Frame Work is done using all USA made steel. Plant is equal to 30 football fields in size. Plant annual capacity of battery production initially will be 30 gigawatts with room to expand. Tesla Gigafactory just boosted production to 39 gigawatts with a maximum of 150 gigawatts production in the current building as a comparison to GM. GM is on a robust hiring process to get all 1,100 workers hired and on board for training in Northeast Ohio. Cost of the Facility is $2.3 billion split between the two companies. Ultium Cells Surpasses 500,000 Construction Build Hours, Celebrates Completion of Steel Building Structure (gm.com)

There is no age discrimination when driving is a privilege, not a right.

Puppies are so easily amused with their tails. 46467.3gp

And its more complicated than that in Quebec... Its more staggered. Full license is obtained at 25 years old. But I got the feeling that you understood where I was going with this. I wanted to show you that yeah...in Quebec, we have pushed forward the age of driving...to a sense, right? I mean, teenaged Quebecois could start to learn to drive at 16, staggered license up until 25... Edumacation is the key though if we are 'after the problem'. In Quebec, we actually DO a good job in TEACHING the new drivers the RULES of the road. In theory FOR the theory of driving. But for the ACTUAL driving part, we fail as hard as anybody else so yeah...I agree with your sentiment 100% about young folk and old folk and all that...

Right- same here in the States, basically. Provisional license at 16, full driver's at 17 (I am sure it varies by state). If they're causing the most incidents/injuries & deaths, perhaps that needs to be PL at 18 and full DL at 19. I mean... if we're 'after the problem' here...

Clearly Porsche & A-M are hedging their bet WRT full electrification. Smart. Plus... it may well lead to future fueling for the other 275 million IC vehicles (in the U.S. alone) for the next 150 years. ?

And don't ignore me or you'll get the wet nose! ) She's still got a lot of Golden in her ?

Robb Report ~ Porsche is reporting its synthetic "eFuel" could make IC engines as clean as BEVs; that it is showing early promise to burn so clean -being a much less complex chemistry- that it could reduce the 'well-to-wheel' carbon footprint of a vehicle burning to to on parity with a BEV. Aston Martin reported last spring that it, too, is working on a synthetic fuel as a valid alternative to expensive electric powertrains. In 2020, only 3.2 million BE's were sold globally in a market that is 65.5 million - a take rate of merely 4.8%. - - - - - Exciting times we live in, eh?

"I expect BE vehicle prices to fall dramatically."

Cora, why you not playing with me look!

So the weekend was a comfort food night with left overs. ? Left over for Sunday dinner homemade mac n cheese with Havarti cheese. Saturday night was BBQ chicken sandwiches with the mac n cheese. The process: Cooked the bacon Then made a bacon roux. Then building up the base of the sauce with seasoning. Pasta is in as this is a one pot mac n cheese. Stirring in the 4 cups of shredded Havarti Cheese. Bacon time, but kept some out for garnishment on top. Time to slowly stir it all together and let the pasta cook. 20210220_171756.mp4

Passes closed early due to excessive snow fall and them rain on top that took avalanche danger to a crazy high threat level. On the way down the mountain, in a little town that you are in and out of usually at 60mph I found this old house rebuilt and an old car since we were creeping along down the mountain. Some cool big machinery on the pass. 20210221_130507.mp4

Neat pic from an O scale model railroad... Posted without additional comment...

My Woodworking freind Eric out hiking with his Daughter Claire...beautiful winter scenery.

And here is an area we agree...this is wicked cool.

Loved that Era of dodge vans....good memories of old days with those. Thanks for posting this up. Probably so. Where was this taken, Tampa Bay? When I was a kid, MAD magazine had a cartoon about middle aged women replacing sex with food. I still have lots of sex, but my main cravings seem to be power tools and good books.

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