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YOU GOT IT!

razor, everyone lives like that these days. and that's exactly the deal. The general public sees union member compensation as above and beyond the US norm, and since everyone needs to pay for those things you listed, it just makes others upset to see those with more security and benefits being so vehemently vocal about it not being enough, when so many think its better than what they get. And when that happens, the whole 'bring down the fat cat' arguments is useless, because so many in America would prefer the unions go down first before anything else.

exactly.

is that west palm harry or west hairy palm? ;) :blink: Wow, the accord 6 speed option int the sedan raises my eyebrows A LOT! Honda has multiairbags and ABS etc. STANDARD across the board. Plus, its got a nice OHC motor. I had better research this! Now i don't have to laugh out loud when i see GTP G6's with 30,000 stickers just to be able to get a manual transmission. I don't mind the SE-R altima but am sick of its looks and wary of Nissan quality, aside from the fabulous motor. I'll be interested to see if base maximas will still be able to get 6 speeds.

thank you. now matter how qualified and thoughtful many of us on C&G might be about keeping RWD on track, think about the other 99% and their attention and skill level. We'd all be toast in no time.

SWB vans are a nice niche product. they are much nicer drives than the LWB models, more nimble. More garageable. Cheaper. Some families really only want a big hatchback with a very occasional thrid row seat and i think that's what a SWB van provides. IMHO, even if they were only 10-15% of minivan production its worth keeping. A SWB van would be a good step up product from my Aztek or a Rendezvous. GM will flood the market soon with crossovers so maybe the shelf life for SWB vans here is not great. If you notice, Dodge shares many exterior body panels between the SWB and LWB models. Even the side doors. New Dodge SWB vans go as cheap as 16 grand new which allows many families and folks who want space, into the market cheap. That's cheaper than a like equipped Vibe for example. Fleets, universities, care facilities, etc. seem to like the SWB vans too.

i followed an 06 this morning for about 2 miles. the new Impala is much more rakish than the last one, yet still is conservative enough to appeal to camry types. the rear end design is clean and well executed and the assembly quality is very good. small gaps. too bad the front end is not great. boy that back seat area is small

bump I need your help!

me

Mostly a scoring based league, about 75% touchdowns etc. and 25% yardage bonuses. I have the number one pick in a twelve team league. I do not pick again until 24 and 25. Manning, Tomlinson, Alexander, or Priest Holmes? Someone please help me!!!!! Others, please ask your fantasy football questions here.....

you forgot the scions

this thing is no further evolved than my 99 Prizm.

thanks for the article.

And my neighbor, who works for Dodge corporation himself, says the 300's and Magnums all suck in snow, regardless of the hype. Tomato, tomato. I'm not putting down 30 grand on the CHANCE any of that electro garbage works. I already tried that on my Tbird, the whole trac control thing. Sure the newer systems are improved a lot. But ESP does not solve the weight distribution issue. Too many of the RWD cars I've had have had issues in winter. Stories I hear from others are no different. I'm not putting faith in a long wheelbase, nose heavy, rear wheel drive car to be trustworthy in a MN winter. I love shitties in the snow as much as anyone, but I don't want what else comes with it. brew, why don't you tell us if you're riding your stock all seasons in winter........

the funny thing is that the automotive press were the ones who endlessly harped the greatness of Accords and Camrys and made them out to the be ultimate driving solution not less than 10 years ago. The press just goes in cycles, looking for the next flavor of the month to write about. Its like the fashion industry. Hey, are jeans that don't even come half way up a girls' hip in fahsion right now? Sure, but what will be in fashion in 3 years?

Well, most folks in the USA don't want the hassle of seasonal tire changes, which is why all season tires are so popular. And so, folks here just want to drive what they own, without changing their tires. Myself, I would love to have winter tire packages for all my vehicles, but my budget doesn't allow it. FWD with all seasons is popular because its easy and versatile.

hey! what the hell happened to all the blowing chunks icons? dammit, there went the punchline. SEBRING WHAT AN UGLY ASS CAR

why waste time examining it. the car is ASS FRICKING UGLY. not only is chrysler the new cheap plastic king, they apparently are the king of ugly cars now too. I can refrain from convulsions having an Aztek in my garage every day but I see this new Sebring and.........

I just realized i hadn't posted anything yet. Sorry about that and sorry I can't do that tonight. NEED SLEEP BAD. Been staying up too late on C/G and GMI etc. The one year AZTEK ANALVERSARY is the 28th.

here's my guess. You can even expand your list to ten topics if you like. -WHY IS THERE NO CAMARO -WHY FWD SUCKS -MONTHLY SALES POSTS -TOYOTA SUCKS FORUM -HOW GM IS BETTER THAN FORD (bonus) -LUTZ, KEEP HIS ASS OR KICK HIS ASS OUT not presenting these in a mean spirited way, I'm just trying to list what most recurring topics have been, seemingly. I would love your take. This is for fun. Good night, gotta get sleep tonight. Can't wait to see all of your lists in the morning.

hey ted, does that 500 have a big trunk?

what an ass ugly car

vehicross

"The only huge advantage RWD has (imo) is the ability to do donuts and such" well, that was the whole 'smoky burnouts' thing I've been harping about. Or as they used to say in high school, 'whipping shitties'. Oh sure, that's fun when you're like 17, but when you are older and making big car payments and using your car as TRANSPORTATION, 'whipping shitties' and 'smoky burnouts' tends to be low priority and rather juvenile IMHO. I just don't see a car company building a foundation for the long haul based upon whether they make it a priority for a new RWD pony car that folks can spend time whipping shitties with. As a niche supplemental product, sure. For as many folks out there who think RWD is neutral (which I do feel is true, BTW), the realtive tail happiness of RWD cars is another strike against them with the fickle and unskilled general public.

well, my stinkin 5 year college degree is making me low-mid 50s a year, and still needing to pay part of my own benes. Since my wife works, we pay extra into her plan. Neither of us could get all of our own medical taken care of. I think we choke up like 3-400 a month (guess) to have a family plan coverage that has low deductibles but also has copays. I picked the wrong profession though, so I have no one to bitch at but myself. In fact, cnn had an article last week for the 5 'big jobs' that don't pay shit or something like that....I'm one of them. I make out good. But I am typically about 10-20 grand now behind my college contemporaries in other majors. Currently one buddy is going for his MBA and likely will double me in pay someday soon. An ex HS classmate who got a doctorate and teaches at a U, married another like person and now their two doctorates and teaching jobs have them riding the gravy train. If my wife quit her job, we'd have to sell our house which is reasonably close to the core area where all the jobs are around here (if 25 miles or 30 miles is close) and move to the sticks and I'd be driving 60 miles one way to work, but with gas that won't work either. We couldn't make a go renting a townhouse around here on my pay alone, because the housing market is so out of whack. Anyways, that might explain why I drive an Aztek and an over and done Diamante (certainly never are these FIRST choices) and my old college buddies are driving Passats, Pilots, Odysseys, Volvos..... Regardless of any of that, it still is the case that with NWA, they may not be able to go on unless there is adjustments made to the mechanics' compansation in a larger than desired way. The monster is too big and now the trouble begins.