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    Alfa Romeo Goes Back To The Drawing Board Due To China


    • With Chinese Auto Market Experiencing Some Downs, Alfa Romeo Goes Back To The Drawing Board

    Last May, Fiat Chrysler Automobiles announced some ambitious plans for Alfa Romeo. By 2018, the brand would hopefully sell 400,000 vehicles annually thanks to 5 billion Euro investment that will lead to the introduction of eight new models. This past week, FCA is going back to the drawing board.

     

    Speaking with analysts on the company's third-quarter results, CEO Sergio Marchionne said due to the weakness of imported luxury vehicles in the Chinese market, FCA is currently reassessing their plans. Marchionne said a good chunk of the 400,000 vehicle sales was assigned to China. But in light of what is happening in the country, those proposed sales will need to absorbed into other regions.

     

    Now all of the vehicles that Alfa Romeo that Alfa Romeo has planned will still be developed, but the brand will need to 'rejig' its plans to focus on launching models that will suit Europe and North American rather than China. Plans for the revised rollout will happen in January.

     

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    You can roast me all you want, I do not care, but this is the worlds UGLIEST car Ever. This continues to prove the idiot leading FCA needs to be fired and this brand put back where it should have stayed in the history books. Waste of Billions that should have stayed in the states to build new models for Jeep, Dodge, Ram and Chrysler.

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    Between this and Cadillac, I feel like the auto industry is turning into an episode of the Brady Bunch, "MARSHA! MARSHA! MARSHA!"

    CHINA! CHINA! CHINA!

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    Wow. I wish continued failure for the Fiat brand of FCA. Because it's the only one that isn't contributing anything. Someone ougt to raise the flag of wasted effort on escalation of commitment. I can see the worth in Alfa Romeo, and then Maserati. But man is it going to be ardous to build them up.

     

    All this while FCA US is getting shafted, and being taken advantage of by the strong American Auto Industry Recovery. 

     

    I have never seen so much product potential wasted by terrible mismanagement. 

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    Here's the thing. Sergio talks a lot about automaker consolidation and restructuring.

     

    Other than the Ferrari sale, we have yet to see something of this nature at FCA itself.

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    Here's the thing. Sergio talks a lot about automaker consolidation and restructuring.

     

    Other than the Ferrari sale, we have yet to see something of this nature at FCA itself.

     

    Because it would mean closing Serg's pet brands.  Serg is bleeding Chrysler to keep Fiat, Alfa, Maserati and for some reason Lancia (Italy Only) alive. 

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    If FCA wanted real consolidation, they could probably keep Fiat as the small cheap car brand, pick one of Dodge and Chrysler for the middle, dump Alfa and put the effort into Maserati as the luxury brand.  Then you have a 3 step car line up.  Jeep and Ram stay for trucks and SUVs.   But they won't do that because they like having 8 boutique brands rather than 4 strong ones.

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    I don't think they need to choose between Dodge and Chrysler.  

     

    Fiat - niche small fun hatchbacks and crossovers at a cheap price.  Price of Scion + Cuteness of Mini

    Dodge - FCA's answer to Ford and Chevy in cars and some crossovers

    Chrysler - FCA's answer to Buick, the Avalon/ES, Acura, and Lincoln in cars and maybe a crossover or three, plus the Minivan.  300 would need to move up in status by a good chunk.

    Maserati - The BMW/Benz/Cadillac competition - too sporty to go up against Lexus.  They would need to come down in their segments, probably take over the Guilia... but not go as far south as Mercedes and BMW have gone.

     

    Ram and Jeep stay right where they are.

     

    edit:  And yes, I think this could work globally even if they just rebranded the Dodge/Chrysler vehicles as Fiats or Lancia's (only one or the other) overseas, but Chrysler could probably be used with success.

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    And people said GM needed Pontiac and Saturn, etc.  And GM is doing better with 4 brands than they did with 8.   There just seems like a lot of overlap still in FCA and you don't need to be all things to all people.  Jeep builds crossovers and SUVs, do you really need carbon copies of them in other brands if Jeep, Dodge and Chrysler are all in the same dealership?  Do we need a 300 and a Charger?  And is Maserati ever really going to compete?  

     

    Sergio wants to consolidate, but has an army of low volume niche products, and probably about 1/3rd of their products are really profitable.

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    I don't think they need to choose between Dodge and Chrysler.  

     

    Fiat - niche small fun hatchbacks and crossovers at a cheap price.  Price of Scion + Cuteness of Mini

    Dodge - FCA's answer to Ford and Chevy in cars and some crossovers

    Chrysler - FCA's answer to Buick, the Avalon/ES, Acura, and Lincoln in cars and maybe a crossover or three, plus the Minivan.  300 would need to move up in status by a good chunk.

    Maserati - The BMW/Benz/Cadillac competition - too sporty to go up against Lexus.  They would need to come down in their segments, probably take over the Guilia... but not go as far south as Mercedes and BMW have gone.

     

    Ram and Jeep stay right where they are.

     

    edit:  And yes, I think this could work globally even if they just rebranded the Dodge/Chrysler vehicles as Fiats or Lancia's (only one or the other) overseas, but Chrysler could probably be used with success.

     

    And people said GM needed Pontiac and Saturn, etc.  And GM is doing better with 4 brands than they did with 8.   There just seems like a lot of overlap still in FCA and you don't need to be all things to all people.  Jeep builds crossovers and SUVs, do you really need carbon copies of them in other brands if Jeep, Dodge and Chrysler are all in the same dealership?  Do we need a 300 and a Charger?  And is Maserati ever really going to compete?  

     

    Sergio wants to consolidate, but has an army of low volume niche products, and probably about 1/3rd of their products are really profitable.

     

    Biggest problem with FCA is their Unionized BS agreements that makes them think they have to keep their mass production going as well as keep stupid Italian lines alive. They are going down the Bankrupt road and will hit it soon.

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    They need to fix the holes in their lower brands before they go about trying to restart Alfa.

    I was really hoping the Giulia platform might get off the ground before something like this went down...

    They need small cars that don't have Fiat badges stat.

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      Ford - Up 4.5% (187,012 Vehicles Sold This Month, 2,262,493 Vehicles Sold So Far This Year)
      Genesis - N/A (1,306 Vehicles Sold This Month, 5,215 Vehicles Sold So Far This Year)
      GMC - Up 14.1% (49,113 Vehicles Sold This Month, 483,213 Vehicles Sold So Far This Year)
      Honda - Up 7.9% (111,308 Vehicles Sold This Month, 1,333,253 Vehicles Sold So Far This Year)
      Hyundai - Up 2% (61,201 Vehicles Sold This Month, 707,485 Vehicles Sold So Far This Year)
      Infiniti - Up 3.6% (12,112 Vehicles Sold This Month, 120,095 Vehicles Sold So Far This Year)
      Jaguar - 
      Jeep - Down 12% (67,285 Vehicles Sold This Month, 843,217 Vehicles Sold So Far This Year)
      Kia - Up 15.3% (52,504 Vehicles Sold This Month, 593,245 Vehicles Sold So Far This Year)
      Land Rover - 
      Lexus - Down 1% (29,050 Vehicles Sold This Month, 290,046 Vehicles Sold So Far This Year)
      Lincoln - Up 19.1% (9,429 Vehicles Sold This Month, 98,933 Vehicles Sold So Far This Year)
      Maserati - Up 27.3% (1,380 Vehicles Sold This Month, 10.838 Vehicles Sold So Far This Year)
      Mazda - Down 3% (22,041 Vehicles Sold This Month, 269,019 Vehicles Sold So Far This Year)
      Mercedes-Benz - Up 1.1% (30,363 Vehicles Sold This Month, 308,226 Vehicles Sold So Far This Year)
      Mercedes-Benz Vans - Down 7.4% (2,564 Vehicles Sold This Month, 30,444 Vehicles Sold So Far This Year)
      MINI - Up 1.4% (4,507 Vehicles Sold This Month, 47,372 Vehicles Sold So Far This Year)
      Mitsubishi - Up 1.8% (6,896 Vehicles Sold This Month, 88,884 Vehicles Sold So Far This Year)
      Nissan - Up 8% (103,024 Vehicles Sold This Month, 1,291,585 Vehicles Sold So Far This Year)
      Porsche - Up 23.9% (5,513 Vehicles Sold This Month, 50,265 Vehicles Sold So Far This Year)
      Ram Trucks - Up 12% (42,511 Vehicles Sold This Month, 492,254 Vehicles Sold So Far This Year)
      smart - Down 15% (563 Vehicles Sold This Month, 5,025 Vehicles Sold So Far This Year)
      Subaru - Up 11.4% (51,308 Vehicles Sold This Month, 551,955 Vehicles Sold So Far This Year)
      Toyota - Up 5.3% (168,595 Vehicles Sold This Month, 1,916,313 Vehicles Sold So Far This Year)
      Volkswagen - Up 24.24% (29,672 Vehicles Sold This Month, 285,719 Vehicles Sold So Far This Year)
      Volvo - Up 11.9% (7,723 Vehicles Sold This Month, 72,595 Vehicles Sold So Far This Year)
    • By William Maley
      Maserati North America, Inc. - Up 27.3% (1,380 Vehicles Sold This Month, 10.838 Vehicles Sold So Far This Year)
      Volkswagen of America - Up 24.24% (29,672 Vehicles Sold This Month, 285,719 Vehicles Sold So Far This Year)
      Porsche Cars North America, Inc. - Up 23.9% (5,513 Vehicles Sold This Month, 50,265 Vehicles Sold So Far This Year)
      Kia Motors America - Up 15.3% (52,504 Vehicles Sold This Month, 593,245 Vehicles Sold So Far This Year)
      Volvo Cars of North America, LLC - Up 11.9% (7,723 Vehicles Sold This Month, 72,595 Vehicles Sold So Far This Year)
      Subaru of America, Inc. - Up 11.4% (51,308 Vehicles Sold This Month, 551,955 Vehicles Sold So Far This Year)
      General Motors Co. - Up 10.2% (252,644 Vehicles Sold This Month, 2,723,667 Vehicles Sold So Far This Year)
      Nissan North America - Up 7.5% (115,136 Vehicles Sold This Month, 1,411,680 Vehicles Sold So Far This Year)
      American Honda Motor Co. - Up 6.5% (122,924 Vehicles Sold This Month, 1,477,465 Vehicles Sold So Far This Year)
      Ford Motor Company - Up 5.1% (199,441 Vehicles Sold This Month, 2,361,426 Vehicles Sold So Far This Year)
      Toyota Motor Sales - Up 4.3% (197,645 Vehicles Sold This Month, 2,206,359 Vehicles Sold So Far This Year)
      Hyundai Motor America - Up 4.2% (62,507 Vehicles Sold This Month, 712,700 Vehicles Sold So Far This Year)
      Audi of America - Up 2.5% (17,118 Vehicles Sold This Month, 187,018 Vehicles Sold So Far This Year)
      Mitsubishi Motors North America - Up 1.8% (6,896 Vehicles Sold This Month, 88,884 Vehicles Sold So Far This Year)
      Mercedes-Benz USA - 0% (33,490 Vehicles Sold This Month, 343,695 Vehicles Sold So Far This Year)
      Mazda North American Operations - Down 3% (22,041 Vehicles Sold This Month, 269,019 Vehicles Sold So Far This Year)
      FCA US LLC - Down 14% (160,827 Vehicles Sold This Month, 2,051,796 Vehicles Sold So Far This Year)
      BMW Group U.S. - Down 15.8% (30,696 Vehicles Sold This Month, 327,711 Vehicles Sold So Far This Year)


      Jaguar Land Rover North America - 

      Brands:
      Acura - Down 5.1% (11,616 Vehicles Sold This Month, 144,212 Vehicles Sold So Far This Year)
      Alfa Romeo - Down 32% (23 Vehicles Sold This Month, 464 Vehicles Sold So Far This Year)
      Audi - Up 2.5% (17,118 Vehicles Sold This Month, 187,018 Vehicles Sold So Far This Year)
      BMW - Down 18.2% (26,189 Vehicles Sold This Month, 280,339 Vehicles Sold So Far This Year)
      Buick - Up 16.1% (18,530 Vehicles Sold This Month, 208,343 Vehicles Sold So Far This Year)
      Cadillac - Up 14.5% (15,326 Vehicles Sold This Month, 148,560 Vehicles Sold So Far This Year)
      Chevrolet - Up 8.1% (169,675 Vehicles Sold This Month, 1,883,551 Vehicles Sold So Far This Year)
      Chrysler - Down 47% (14,518 Vehicles Sold This Month, 215,196 Vehicles Sold So Far This Year)
      Dodge - Down 21% (34,075 Vehicles Sold This Month, 470,529 Vehicles Sold So Far This Year)
      Fiat - Down 15% (2,415 Vehicles Sold This Month, 30,136 Vehicles Sold So Far This Year)
      Ford - Up 4.5% (187,012 Vehicles Sold This Month, 2,262,493 Vehicles Sold So Far This Year)
      Genesis - N/A (1,306 Vehicles Sold This Month, 5,215 Vehicles Sold So Far This Year)
      GMC - Up 14.1% (49,113 Vehicles Sold This Month, 483,213 Vehicles Sold So Far This Year)
      Honda - Up 7.9% (111,308 Vehicles Sold This Month, 1,333,253 Vehicles Sold So Far This Year)
      Hyundai - Up 2% (61,201 Vehicles Sold This Month, 707,485 Vehicles Sold So Far This Year)
      Infiniti - Up 3.6% (12,112 Vehicles Sold This Month, 120,095 Vehicles Sold So Far This Year)
      Jaguar - 
      Jeep - Down 12% (67,285 Vehicles Sold This Month, 843,217 Vehicles Sold So Far This Year)
      Kia - Up 15.3% (52,504 Vehicles Sold This Month, 593,245 Vehicles Sold So Far This Year)
      Land Rover - 
      Lexus - Down 1% (29,050 Vehicles Sold This Month, 290,046 Vehicles Sold So Far This Year)
      Lincoln - Up 19.1% (9,429 Vehicles Sold This Month, 98,933 Vehicles Sold So Far This Year)
      Maserati - Up 27.3% (1,380 Vehicles Sold This Month, 10.838 Vehicles Sold So Far This Year)
      Mazda - Down 3% (22,041 Vehicles Sold This Month, 269,019 Vehicles Sold So Far This Year)
      Mercedes-Benz - Up 1.1% (30,363 Vehicles Sold This Month, 308,226 Vehicles Sold So Far This Year)
      Mercedes-Benz Vans - Down 7.4% (2,564 Vehicles Sold This Month, 30,444 Vehicles Sold So Far This Year)
      MINI - Up 1.4% (4,507 Vehicles Sold This Month, 47,372 Vehicles Sold So Far This Year)
      Mitsubishi - Up 1.8% (6,896 Vehicles Sold This Month, 88,884 Vehicles Sold So Far This Year)
      Nissan - Up 8% (103,024 Vehicles Sold This Month, 1,291,585 Vehicles Sold So Far This Year)
      Porsche - Up 23.9% (5,513 Vehicles Sold This Month, 50,265 Vehicles Sold So Far This Year)
      Ram Trucks - Up 12% (42,511 Vehicles Sold This Month, 492,254 Vehicles Sold So Far This Year)
      smart - Down 15% (563 Vehicles Sold This Month, 5,025 Vehicles Sold So Far This Year)
      Subaru - Up 11.4% (51,308 Vehicles Sold This Month, 551,955 Vehicles Sold So Far This Year)
      Toyota - Up 5.3% (168,595 Vehicles Sold This Month, 1,916,313 Vehicles Sold So Far This Year)
      Volkswagen - Up 24.24% (29,672 Vehicles Sold This Month, 285,719 Vehicles Sold So Far This Year)
      Volvo - Up 11.9% (7,723 Vehicles Sold This Month, 72,595 Vehicles Sold So Far This Year)

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    • By William Maley
      Volkswagen of America Reports November 2016 Sales Results
      Dec 1, 2016
      November sales totaled 29,672 units, an increase of 24.2 percent over November 2015 Tiguan sales totaled 4,516 units, an increase of 15.6 percent over November 2015 Passat sales totaled 6,441 units, an increase of 133.5 percent over November 2015 Golf SportWagen sales (which includes the  all-new Alltrack) totaled 2,174 units, an increase of 246 percent over November 2015 Herndon, VA — (December 1, 2016) Volkswagen of America, Inc. (VWoA) today reported sales of 29,672 units delivered in November 2016. Sales of the Golf SportWagen, which include the all-new Alltrack, increased by more than 200% over November 2015.
      November 2016 Sales
        November 16
      November 15
      Yr/Yr% change
      November  16
      YTD
      November  15
      YTD
      Yr/Yr%
      change
      Golf
                  1,340
                      774
      73.1%
                11,894
                18,066
      -34.2%
      GTI
                  2,216
                   1,963
      12.9%
                21,157
                21,300
      -0.7%
      Golf R
                     449
                      273
      64.5%
                  3,947
                  3,492
      13.0%
      e-Golf
                     305
                      472
      -35.4%
                  3,494
                  3,623
      -3.6%
      Golf SportWagen
                  2,174
                      628
      246.2%
                12,227
                13,112
      -6.7%
      Total Golf Family
                  6,484
                      4,110
      57.8%
                52,719
                59,593
      -11.5%
      Jetta Sedan
                10,212
                 11,021
      -7.3%
              108,023
              114,365
      -5.5%
      Jetta SportWagen       
      (now Golf SportWagen)
                        -  
                          1
      n/a
                         5
                  2,671
      -99.8%
      Total Jetta
                   10,212
      11,022
      -7.3%
      108,028
                117,036
      -7.7%
      Beetle Coupe
                     915
                      571
      60.2%
                  8,738
                12,067
      -27.6%
      Beetle Convertible
                     488
                      440
      10.9%
                  5,333
                  9,289
      -42.6%
      Total Beetle
                     1,403
                      1,011
      38.8%
      14,071
                  21,356
      -34.1%
      Eos*
                        -  
                      201
      n/a
                     387
                  2,751
      -85.9%
      Passat
                  6,441
                   2,759
      133.5%
                65,761
                74,611
      -11.9%
      CC
                     268
                      475
      -43.6%
                  2,863
                  5,643
      -49.3%
      Tiguan
                  4,516
                   3,907
      15.6%
                38,063
                30,943
      23.0%
      Touareg
                     348
                      397
      -12.3%
                  3,827
                  6,551
      -41.6%
      TOTAL
                     29,672
                      23,882
      24.24%
                  285,719
                  318,484
      -10.29%
      *Eos production ended in July 2015
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