Report Says 2018 Buick Regal TourX Will Begin At $29,995

Nice, I like these packages, while it would be nice to easily find the base model, I have to agree with the writeup that most will be mid or top end level.$35K is not bad for the Top of the line.

Let's see if its gets any traction.  The Dodge Magnum and the CTS Wagon were short-lived. 

I Iike it but there should not be any black plastic trim outside for $35K. I feel that is a big mistake on Buicks part. 

Pricing seems right, it is priced below Envision but it like a class above in terms of size.  I don't think it will sell much though just because wagons struggle.

7 hours ago, smk4565 said:

Pricing seems right, it is priced below Envision but it like a class above in terms of size.  I don't think it will sell much though just because wagons struggle.

Still nice to have choices though. I still like the Golf Alltrack better....

I would probably prefer the Envision over the Regal TourX if the former was not smaller than the XT5 or Equinox/Terrain.  Then again, if I wanted this model, I would simply go top of the line and keep it for several years.  I do hope that this model sells well, despite the fact that crossovers are nowadays the best sellers.

Seems like Albert has taken a liking to the Sportback as much as I might want the TourX. Neither is a bad choice though.

1 hour ago, Drew Dowdell said:

Seems like Albert has taken a liking to the Sportback as much as I might want the TourX. Neither is a bad choice though.

Ahh....the joys of car shopping with a significant other.  Now that she has the Beetle, my wife is very content with the idea of getting rid of the cooper in a couple of years when our daughter is out of high school and replacing it with a Miata.

I will be interested to see how you and Albert evolve your fleet...

1 hour ago, A Horse With No Name said:

Ahh....the joys of car shopping with a significant other.  Now that she has the Beetle, my wife is very content with the idea of getting rid of the cooper in a couple of years when our daughter is out of high school and replacing it with a Miata.

I will be interested to see how you and Albert evolve your fleet...

We're going to get one large crossover or SUV and one medium to large sedan.  I'm listing one of my rental properties for sale and nothing will happen until after that is gone.

6 minutes ago, Drew Dowdell said:

We're going to get one large crossover or SUV and one medium to large sedan.  I'm listing one of my rental properties for sale and nothing will happen until after that is gone.

Sweet!  Keep us posted....

16 hours ago, aurora97 said:

Let's see if its gets any traction.  The Dodge Magnum and the CTS Wagon were short-lived. 

And both of those were great cars (save for the 2.7L Magnum which was a pile of dog s***). 

6 minutes ago, surreal1272 said:

And both of those were great cars (save for the 2.7L Magnum which was a pile of dog s***). 

Hopefully this car has a better fate...

41 minutes ago, surreal1272 said:

And both of those were great cars (save for the 2.7L Magnum which was a pile of dog s***). 

The Buick has a better chance of surviving because China.

It will continue for at least this generation in Europe as the Insignia too. 

47 minutes ago, Drew Dowdell said:

The Buick has a better chance of surviving because China.

It will continue for at least this generation in Europe as the Insignia too. 

I have no doubt about it succeeding overseas. The US, however, is another matter entirely. 

9 minutes ago, surreal1272 said:

I have no doubt about it succeeding overseas. The US, however, is another matter entirely. 

I can see it being a low volume niche model.

22 minutes ago, A Horse With No Name said:

I can see it being a low volume niche model.

If I were a betting man, I would bet that once this version of the Regal is done, production is moved to China. The 2018 Regal goes back to its European roots by being built in Rüsselsheim again... making the Regal more German than a BMW X5. 

Envision has already shown that Americans don't care about a vehicle being assembled in China (and likewise, the Encore in Korea).  The Regal is one of Buick's best sellers in China so it would make sense, once the Opel link is severed, for the Chinese to build it and the US gets the excess production.  Buick sells more than 4 Regals in China for every 1 Regal sold in the US. 

If I were Mary Barra, that's what I would do. 

1 hour ago, Drew Dowdell said:

If I were a betting man, I would bet that once this version of the Regal is done, production is moved to China. The 2018 Regal goes back to its European roots by being built in Rüsselsheim again... making the Regal more German than a BMW X5. 

Envision has already shown that Americans don't care about a vehicle being assembled in China (and likewise, the Encore in Korea).  The Regal is one of Buick's best sellers in China so it would make sense, once the Opel link is severed, for the Chinese to build it and the US gets the excess production.  Buick sells more than 4 Regals in China for every 1 Regal sold in the US. 

If I were Mary Barra, that's what I would do. 

It would be rational.

That being said, i would not buy a Chinese made Buick.

25 minutes ago, A Horse With No Name said:

It would be rational.

That being said, i would not buy a Chinese made Buick.

As long as North America continues to build my full size SUVs, I could care less about where everything else is produced.  

7 minutes ago, dfelt said:

As long as North America continues to build my full size SUVs, I could care less about where everything else is produced.  

.hmmmm....I respectfully decline comment....

13 minutes ago, A Horse With No Name said:

.hmmmm....I respectfully decline comment....

 Come on Horse, I gave you a perfect opening to pummel me and make some sarcastic remark!  

Like you I would love to have everything produced here in the US. But with a Global economy, that will never happen. So some lite humor and a focus on what can be done, buy as much US made product as possible to support my fellow citizen, then move onto best quality built products from around the world.

Just now, dfelt said:

 Come on Horse, I gave you a perfect opening to pummel me and make some sarcastic remark!  

Like you I would love to have everything produced here in the US. But with a Global economy, that will never happen. So some lite humor and a focus on what can be done, buy as much US made product as possible to support my fellow citizen, then move onto best quality built products from around the world.

For me it is a human rights issue and not a globalism issue.

Looking at planers for my woodworking shop right now, not sure I can find an American tool to do exactly what I want....trying to find one made in Taiwan rather than China if I buy new.

Personally, I think we need to have a revitalization of American entrepreneurship...more than laws or import quotas...we need American innovation...

...and we need American laws to protect the intellectual property rights of American companies from being stolen by Chinese companies.

4 minutes ago, A Horse With No Name said:

For me it is a human rights issue and not a globalism issue.

Looking at planers for my woodworking shop right now, not sure I can find an American tool to do exactly what I want....trying to find one made in Taiwan rather than China if I buy new.

Personally, I think we need to have a revitalization of American entrepreneurship...more than laws or import quotas...we need American innovation...

...and we need American laws to protect the intellectual property rights of American companies from being stolen by Chinese companies.

I get your message and why I only buy Weathertech floor mats. 

Weathertech web site

This company which had plants in UK and China brought everything back to the US to make sure his neighbors and others that wanted American Made products had them plus making sure kids were not working and building them in China or the workers being abused. The whole story is on their web site, but when the partial owner bought the whole company and reviewed everything, I feel he did the right thing and now he has a growing company that those in the know respect and use.

Just now, dfelt said:

I get your message and why I only buy Weathertech floor mats. 

Weathertech web site

This company which had plants in UK and China brought everything back to the US to make sure his neighbors and others that wanted American Made products had them plus making sure kids were not working and building them in China or the workers being abused. The whole story is on their web site, but when the partial owner bought the whole company and reviewed everything, I feel he did the right thing and now he has a growing company that those in the know respect and use.

....ohhh yeah....

Like I said...I love it when American companies are really ethical and do the right thing!

Plus they are killer mats...we have them in all of our vehicles at work....they are better quality than anything else made.

Even if you were ISIS and just wanting to keep sand out of your Toyota truck before it got blown to paradise and back by the Kurds or the Iranians, Weather tech mats would be a stylish and long lasting (longer than the about to be obliterated Tacoma) choice.

They would also insulate your knees better than those cheap Chinese copies when you pray five times a day in the hot desert sun...

...and the shredded remnants can be woven into a stylish burqa for your widow also...

So yes, I think Jihadi's should definitely buy weather tech.

I had a Weathertech cargo area mat in my my old GC, plan to get one and Weathertech floor mats before winter for my new GC.  Great products.

1 hour ago, A Horse With No Name said:

It would be rational.

That being said, i would not buy a Chinese made Buick.

The industry model I foresee coming is that of building the vehicles on the continent were the most of that particular vehicle will be sold.  Trucks, SUVS, large Crossovers, and large sedan (both in volume and size) are safe here in the US.  Small vehicles will ship off shore. 

The exception to this will be compact cars that sell in such huge volumes that it makes it impractical to have long shipping routes.  For example, Civic and Corolla, probably have too much volume to make it feasible to ship across the Pacific whereas Trax and Encore combined don't add up to even a fraction of Civic. 

Ford is majorly gambling with Focus. A sudden spike in oil prices could make a Chinese built Focus uneconomical to ship economy cars all the way from China to the US. All it takes is one mid-east skirmish to double or triple oil prices and Russia is already threatening to fire on US planes in Syria.  

45 minutes ago, Drew Dowdell said:

 

The exception to this will be compact cars that sell in such huge volumes that it makes it impractical to have long shipping routes.  For example, Civic and Corolla, probably have too much volume to make it feasible to ship across the Pacific whereas Trax and Encore combined don't add up to even a fraction of Civic. 

 

Also commodity luxury models that are sold worldwide will likely continue to be built worldwide...the BMW 3-series is assembled on 4 continents in about 10 countries...

1 hour ago, Drew Dowdell said:

The industry model I foresee coming is that of building the vehicles on the continent were the most of that particular vehicle will be sold.  Trucks, SUVS, large Crossovers, and large sedan (both in volume and size) are safe here in the US.  Small vehicles will ship off shore. 

The exception to this will be compact cars that sell in such huge volumes that it makes it impractical to have long shipping routes.  For example, Civic and Corolla, probably have too much volume to make it feasible to ship across the Pacific whereas Trax and Encore combined don't add up to even a fraction of Civic. 

Ford is majorly gambling with Focus. A sudden spike in oil prices could make a Chinese built Focus uneconomical to ship economy cars all the way from China to the US. All it takes is one mid-east skirmish to double or triple oil prices and Russia is already threatening to fire on US planes in Syria.  

The Syrian thing ties into the people not getting any smarter.

We keep seemingly coming back to that.

There is a part of me that really dislikes Ford and wants to see them fail....which actually bothers me.

With a billion people driving oil will become an issue at some point... surprised that it hasn't happened yet.

Also, would love to know the actual profit per vehicle on Civic, Encore and Trax.  Honda does not fleet out like Ford but they absolutely love their low cost lease special offers.