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    Mercedes Unveils The First All-Electric Luxury Van

      ...Range, 250 miles....

    Following the Concept EQV at the Geneva Auto Show back in March, Mercedes-Benz has pulled the wraps off the production version ahead of the Frankfurt Auto Show coming up in September. 

    The Mercedes says that the EQV will have a range of about 250 miles and rapid charging from 10 percent to 80 percent of the 100 kWh battery in less than one hour. Interior space is not compromised as the battery is stored under the floor of the vehicle.  Drivers can control the recuperation levels with paddles behind the steering wheel, with the strongest setting being akin to braking allowing single pedal operation. The drive unit is a 204 horsepower / 267 lb-ft of torque motor that drives the front wheels. Top speed is said to be 99 mph. 

    Passengers can expect a lounge like interior with EQ specific décor and the MBUX infotainment system. Two wheelbases will be available. 

    Sales in the US are an unknown at this time, but with the threat of tariffs looming, we highly doubt it. The only EV that Daimler offered in the US is the Smart Fourtwo, but that model and brand will be departing the US for China after 2019.  

     

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    Very cool as I see plenty of use for this in inner city deliveries.

    My only WTF is the placement of the battery recharge port, drivers side corner of bumper. 

    Nissan is in the front of the auto. GM just in front of the drivers door. To me this makes much more logical sense to see it and unplug.

    For the bulk of people, I see no reason to not use the gas filler spot from ICE auto's.

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    This would be a great city delivery vehicle or even a family hauler.  250 miles of range (which is probably a Euro number and might be more like 200 miles in heat or winter)  is plenty for daily use of hauling kids around.  Lots of potential uses for this, and they could possibly build them in South Carolina at the Sprinter factory.  I imagine the Chinese market will be huge as they crack down on ICE vehicles.

    Only thing is front drive 204 hp?  Would be nice to see a dual motor 450 hp version to be the Tesla of mini-vans.

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    3 hours ago, dfelt said:

    Very cool as I see plenty of use for this in inner city deliveries.

    My only WTF is the placement of the battery recharge port, drivers side corner of bumper. 

    Nissan is in the front of the auto. GM just in front of the drivers door. To me this makes much more logical sense to see it and unplug.

    For the bulk of people, I see no reason to not use the gas filler spot from ICE auto's.

    The placement of the plug in the front or near the front is actually a good idea.  It reduces confusion for most people, given that most ICE autos have the gas tank filler spot on the rear quarter (either left or right).

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    3 hours ago, dfelt said:

    Very cool as I see plenty of use for this in inner city deliveries.

    My only WTF is the placement of the battery recharge port, drivers side corner of bumper. 

    Nissan is in the front of the auto. GM just in front of the drivers door. To me this makes much more logical sense to see it and unplug.

    For the bulk of people, I see no reason to not use the gas filler spot from ICE auto's.

    This is the perfect use of EV tech (although a little more range would nice considering the primary use of these).

     

    Not sure how this is funny to some folks other than to just troll as usual. Ever the pessimist they are I guess. 

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    When we went to Italy couple years ago we took together with our friends a transfer service from Rome to a town on the Amalfi Coast.  It was in the ICE version of this van, which i have to say was very nice and comfortable.   The distance was about 160miles, almost 3.5 hours.  This EV version theoretically could make same trip easily, than charge couple hours and do it again. 

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    1 hour ago, frogger said:

    Stop escalating everything into personal attacks

    No escalation. Someone decided the first two posts were funny via the emoji button and I made a statement to that fact. I won’t apologize for someone else’s constant trolling. 

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    19 hours ago, dfelt said:

    Very cool as I see plenty of use for this in inner city deliveries.

    My only WTF is the placement of the battery recharge port, drivers side corner of bumper. 

    Nissan is in the front of the auto. GM just in front of the drivers door. To me this makes much more logical sense to see it and unplug.

    For the bulk of people, I see no reason to not use the gas filler spot from ICE auto's.

    Yeah, seems like an odd spot for it.  There is no standard for where chargers sit relative to vehicles, unlike gas pumps which an ICE vehicle pulls up beside...vehicles can be beside, in front of, or behind a charger...as long as the power hose is long enough to reach, the port can be most anywhere... this van appears to be related to the Metris, so an electric delivery van for Amazon, etc would make a lot of sense in parts of the US. 

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    9 minutes ago, balthazar said:

    An Odyessey starts at $30K; for mercedes' 2nd foray into minivans, this had better be price-competitive if it expects to gain a foothold in the family shuttle segment. 

    Odyssey that will be at least somehow compatible in features to MB will be close or most likely over $40k

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    26 minutes ago, balthazar said:

    An Odyessey starts at $30K; for mercedes' 2nd foray into minivans, this had better be price-competitive if it expects to gain a foothold in the family shuttle segment. 

    This isn't a family hauler... this is more Airport Shuttle / Hotel Shuttle. One hour recharge to 80% is good for these. 

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    [Reacting to the comment 'you could haul kids around'] An EV MB minivan is going to start more like $80K (the 2012 R-350 was $52K). You could buy 2 Odysseys and get vehicles that don't look like they require commercial plates.

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    3 hours ago, balthazar said:

    An Odyessey starts at $30K; for mercedes' 2nd foray into minivans, this had better be price-competitive if it expects to gain a foothold in the family shuttle segment. 

    I am sure the Koolaid drinking MB faithful will not think twice about the uber luxury EV Minivan from MB. :P  ;)

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    1 minute ago, dfelt said:

    I am sure the Koolaid drinking MB faithful will not think twice about the uber luxury EV Minivan from MB. :P  ;)

    I am surprised they haven't marketed a Vito or Metris family luxury minivan in the US before...I'm sure there are people that would buy one for the badge alone... 

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    3 minutes ago, Robert Hall said:

    I am surprised they haven't marketed a Vito or Metris family luxury minivan in the US before...I'm sure there are people that would buy one for the badge alone... 

    They tried that with the R-Class and it fall down go boom. 

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    2 hours ago, balthazar said:

    [Reacting to the comment 'you could haul kids around'] An EV MB minivan is going to start more like $80K (the 2012 R-350 was $52K). You could buy 2 Odysseys and get vehicles that don't look like they require commercial plates.

    A Metris is priced like an Odyssey, this won’t cost double.  And it is more of a commercial unit than a family vehicle but of course it can do both.  Also the Odyssey isn’t electric.   So this wins in operating costs and if China bans ICE engines then the Odyssey isn’t even an option.

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    This is a step one for a really perfect ride sharing vehicle.  If they can make an autonomous version then Uber’s and Lyft’s business model makes sense and you can have self driving electric vans shuttling people around for 6 hours, come in for a recharge and quick clean then it goes back out for 6 hours.

    Uber and Lyft won’t make money until they get rid of a driver and if you are getting driven in a robo taxi then a van is a lot better option than a compact sedan.

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    17 minutes ago, smk4565 said:

    A Metris is priced like an Odyssey, this won’t cost double.  And it is more of a commercial unit than a family vehicle but of course it can do both.  Also the Odyssey isn’t electric.   So this wins in operating costs and if China bans ICE engines then the Odyssey isn’t even an option.

    It's still a Mercedes. It will never beat a Honda on operating costs no matter what powers either vehicle. 

    13 minutes ago, smk4565 said:

    This is a step one for a really perfect ride sharing vehicle.

    The Bolt has already been out for a few years. 

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    14 minutes ago, smk4565 said:

    This is a step one for a really perfect ride sharing vehicle.  If they can make an autonomous version then Uber’s and Lyft’s business model makes sense and you can have self driving electric vans shuttling people around for 6 hours, come in for a recharge and quick clean then it goes back out for 6 hours.

    Uber and Lyft won’t make money until they get rid of a driver and if you are getting driven in a robo taxi then a van is a lot better option than a compact sedan.

    Do we really want Johnny Cab Robo Taxi's running around the city?

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    I'd be okay with a robo-car picking me up and dropping me off places. 

    22 minutes ago, smk4565 said:

     Also the Odyssey isn’t electric.   So this wins in operating costs

    I bet an NSX has lower operating costs than a CLA45. 

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    4 minutes ago, ccap41 said:

    It's still a Mercedes. It will never beat a Honda on operating costs no matter what powers either vehicle. 

    The Bolt has already been out for a few years. 

    I love the BOLT, but am very disappointed in GM lack of offering diverse interiors on that auto especially with the number of customers saying they did not like the Black and White dash that is default for all the black, grey or black n grey interiors. They should have offered better colors and interior options from the begining.

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      The Cadillac LYRIQ is powered by GM’s new Ultium battery system, which offers approximately 100 kilowatt-hours of energy to deliver stirring performance.
      Ultium’s state-of-the-art NCMA (nickel-cobalt-manganese-aluminum) chemistry uses aluminum in the cathode to help reduce the need for rare-earth materials such as cobalt. In fact, GM engineers reduced the cobalt content by more than 70 percent, compared to current GM batteries.
      The advanced battery chemistry is packed in large, flat pouch cells that enable smart module construction to reduce complexity and simplify cooling needs. Additionally, the battery electronics are incorporated directly into the modules, eliminating nearly 90 percent of the battery pack wiring, compared to GM’s current electric vehicles. 
      When it comes to charging, LYRIQ offers quick and convenient charging options whether at home or on the go. With DC fast charging, the LYRIQ can charge at rates over 150 kW. 
      ARTFULLY INTEGRATED TECHNOLOGY
      Envisioned to make interaction with its technologies more intuitive and rewarding, the LYRIQ’s partnership with the driver and passengers is simultaneously energizing and artful.
      Upon approach, the LYRIQ recognizes the driver and initiates a “greeting” with a choreographed lighting sequence, while also preparing the cabin for the journey, including seat, mirror and climate system adjustments. Once inside, the LYRIQ offers Cadillac’s highest level of driver information, infotainment and connectivity integration, for a more seamless and rewarding experience.
      A 33-inch-diagonal advanced LED display artfully integrates a single, large screen that spans the viewing area for the driver and incorporates driver information details, infotainment controls and camera views. This new display has the highest pixel density available in the automotive industry today and can display over one billion colors, 64 times more than any other vehicle in the automotive industry, providing a stunning in-vehicle experience unlike anything seen before from Cadillac.
      Additional technology and interactive highlights include:
      Battery and charging monitoring conveyed by easy, at-a-glance graphics. The system identifies the vehicle’s energy needs at home and on the go, according to owner preferences, while also monitoring and forecasting energy consumption and providing charging suggestions. New dual-plane augmented reality-enhanced head-up display employs two planes: a near plane indicating speed, direction and more, and a far plane displaying transparent navigation signals and other important alerts. The latest version of Super Cruise, the hands-free driver assistance feature, including automated lane change.3 Supervised remote parking that uses ultrasonic sensors to help the LYRIQ park itself in parallel or perpendicular parking spaces — whether the driver is inside or outside of the vehicle.4 SENSE OF SOUND
      LYRIQ’s technology also addresses sound in two important ways: Blocking unwanted sounds and making the most of the sounds passengers want to hear.
      For the first time, Cadillac will introduce a new road noise cancellation technology, which takes active noise cancellation to the next level by introducing more microphones and accelerometers, which improve noise cancellation abilities. With this new system, Cadillac’s performance and audio engineers can target the frequency range of tire cavity noise, reducing the noise level in the vehicle and allowing for a quieter in-cabin experience.
      The Cadillac LYRIQ builds on the brand’s exclusive partnership with AKG. “With LYRIQ we wanted to deliver a sound experience that would transport the driver from a vehicle into a recording studio,” said Hussein Khalil, Cadillac lead audio design release engineer. “With the AKG sound system, we are able to deliver this experience along with the quality and reliability luxury customers expect.”
      At launch, LYRIQ will offer a 19-speaker AKG Studio audio system that delivers exceptionally crisp and precise sound reproduction, enabling drivers and passengers to enjoy their favorite music.
      NEW FACE OF CADILLAC
      Cadillac’s first electric SUV makes a bold design statement that introduces a new face, proportion and presence for the brand’s new generation of EVs. It’s a forward-looking vision unconstrained by the needs of a traditional internal combustion engine and driveline.
      “The LYRIQ represents the next iteration of the iconic brand’s styling, enabled by electrification, as only Cadillac can express,” said Andrew Smith, executive director, Global Cadillac Design. “Inside and out, LYRIQ is a thoughtful integration of design and technology and is intended to make every drive an occasion.”
      Defined by taut lines and clean surfaces, LYRIQ is assertive and modern, characterized with a low, fast roofline and wide stance that emphasize agility and convey confidence. Additional details such as a flow-through roof spoiler express the careful attention paid to aerodynamics to optimize efficiency on the highway.
      A distinctive “black crystal” grille in the front is one of the LYRIQ’s most unique and expressive design elements. It is also a dynamic feature, as it is part of a dramatic lighting choreography that — along with bold vertical, slim LED signature lighting — greets the owner upon approach. At the rear, a split taillamp design incorporates slim LEDs that are also integrated into the lighting choreography.
      Inside, the LYRIQ’s new electric vehicle architecture opens up possibilities in vehicle spaciousness and design; and Cadillac designers used this as an opportunity to rethink how to use the space and where to locate various interior elements.
      The result is a more airy, minimalistic design that does more to involve the driver and passengers in the driving experience while offering exceptional functionality when it comes to storage solutions. It is also brimming with subtle yet obsessive details such as backlit speaker grilles, curved screens with hidden storage and, like the exterior, orchestrated lighting features.
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