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    Geneva 2019: Mercedes-Benz EQV Concept

      A concept electric van with a 249 mile range.

    Mercedes-Benz unveiled the EQV Concept at the Geneva International Auto Show today.  The concept features a 100 kWh battery that enables the van to travel up to 249 miles (400 km) on a single charge.  Rapid charging functionality enables 62 miles of range in just 15 minutes.

    The concept utilizes a front drivetrain with 201 hp electric motor.  The motor, transmission, cooling system and power electronics come together in a compact integral unit.  The battery is placed under the load floor and takes up no room in the passenger compartment.

    While this is a concept, Mercedes says that a production version of this van will come to market. No word yet on when that will be, though the word "soon" was used.

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    Very cool, sharp looking EV van. I hate the floating LCD screen. Interior color combo is nice.

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    I suspect Amazon, FedEX, UPS, etc will love these for city delivery purposes, especially in California, or European cities that frown upon gas burners in their urban areas.

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    3 hours ago, dfelt said:

    Very cool, sharp looking EV van. I hate the floating LCD screen. Interior color combo is nice.

    Was wondering how you would balance your hatred for Benz with your EV drooling.  Now I see.

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    3 hours ago, ocnblu said:

    Was wondering how you would balance your hatred for Benz with your EV drooling.  Now I see.

    I can always respect a proper EV auto. Just cause it has a 3 point star and I would not buy it does not mean I cannot respect the engineering effort that went into it.

    GM / Ford / RAM would benefit from doing the same thing. EV vans that can be used for delivery / service work in the inner city will be a big win for companies by reducing service costs / fuel costs / noise and cleaner air for the City Dwellers.

    Still love ya Blu, keep me on my toes in Explaining why the Dark Side has better Cookies and you will join me young Padawan! :D 

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    This EQV concept looks a lot like today's MB Sprinter 2500 externally.

    I agree that GM and Ford and RAM must put out their EV alternatives to this small EV van as soon as possible.  No need to lose relatively easy fleet sales to MB.  Besides, we all need clean air, not just big cities like Los Angeles.

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    Ford has or will shortly intro PHEV Transit & Transit Connect vans. Seems to me hybrid vans make a bit more sense than pure EVs for all-day delivery service.
     

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    6 hours ago, dfelt said:

    I can always respect a proper EV auto. Just cause it has a 3 point star and I would not buy it does not mean I cannot respect the engineering effort that went into it.

    GM / Ford / RAM would benefit from doing the same thing. EV vans that can be used for delivery / service work in the inner city will be a big win for companies by reducing service costs / fuel costs / noise and cleaner air for the City Dwellers.

    Still love ya Blu, keep me on my toes in Explaining why the Dark Side has better Cookies and you will join me young Padawan! :D 

    Question:  why spend the money if there is no customer demand for more expensive, less useful work vans?

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    33 minutes ago, ocnblu said:

    Question:  why spend the money if there is no customer demand for more expensive, less useful work vans?

    The EQV at least is geared more towards VIP transportation rather than  plumbers. Though City based plumbers aren't going to be traveling 249+ miles in a day usually.

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    I could see this being used for airport shuttles...the 'minibus' passenger version of the Sprinter is used for that in various countries in Europe (ridden in them), those would probably rack up a lot of miles. 

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    expensive to buy, but cheap to run... especially in countries with high fuel costs.   These would make great hotel shuttles that only depart every hour and then sit at the hotel for half an hour. they can charge while they're waiting for the next run. 

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    2 hours ago, ocnblu said:

    Question:  why spend the money if there is no customer demand for more expensive, less useful work vans?

    You ASSUME there is no demand. Yet when people complain about noise in the inner city, open header motorcycles, diesel auto's, noise, smell, etc. People are wanting quieter options, cleaner air. 

    So you are making an ASSUMPTION that people do not want this? How do you know what millions of people living in cities want?

    Seattle has a noise code that attempts to address this: http://www.seattle.gov/sdci/codes/codes-we-enforce-(a-z)/noise-code

    Clearly our neighborhoods are asking for a change to noise and air pollution such as Beacon hill: https://www.knkx.org/post/environmental-justice-seattle-s-beacon-hill-addressing-air-and-noise-pollution or https://iexaminer.org/environmental-injustice-the-air-and-noise-pollution-threatening-the-health-of-beacon-hill/

    To quote from the iexaminer story above: Both air and noise pollution are associated with health risks. Long-term exposure to certain air pollutants is associated with heart disease and childhood asthma, according to Tim Larson, a professor of Civil and Environmental Engineering at the UW.

    Here is a science research done from 2000 to 2008 that shows both air and noise pollution increase the risk of heart attack especially in densly populated cities. https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2018/10/181024112244.htm

    The SCIENCE supports that less noise and cleaner air is good for everyone both inside the city and outside of it.

    This on top of a vehicle that is quiet, less maintenance, less cost of fueling in a form factor such as this EV is desired even as you hate them, many love the option. This is a perfect representation of capitalism as another auto option that you can ignore and have a right to do and others will support.

    While use as an airport taxi or executive transport, I expect this electric van to also grab market share among service providers that will love the lower cost of operation and the stealth approach to delivering at all hours without bothering others.

    Electric Vans will be perfect for Amazon Prime 24/7 delivery in neighborhoods to inner cities.

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    China has massive pollution problems, it is only a matter of time before they ban gas engine vehicles in certain cities to control that.  China is Mercedes 2nd largest market after the EU (who might also ban ICE vehicles in some places come 2030), so they are getting ready.

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    10 hours ago, dfelt said:

    You ASSUME there is demand. Yet when people complain about noise in the inner city, open header motorcycles, diesel auto's, noise, smell, etc. People are wanting quieter options, cleaner air. 

    You ASSUME there are droves city dwellers who complain about AUTOMOTIVE noise and a heightened sense of "air pollution".

    18 hours ago, balthazar said:

    Ford has or will shortly intro PHEV Transit & Transit Connect vans. Seems to me hybrid vans make a bit more sense than pure EVs for all-day delivery service.
     

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    The van pictured is a Transit Custom, sized between the Transit Connect and the Transit.  It is currently not sold in America.

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    12 hours ago, Drew Dowdell said:

    The EQV at least is geared more towards VIP transportation rather than  plumbers. Though City based plumbers aren't going to be traveling 249+ miles in a day usually.

    I was asking why any OEM would spend the money to develop a work van that is much higher priced, and hamstrung by electric propulsion.

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    28 minutes ago, ocnblu said:

    You ASSUME there are droves city dwellers who complain about AUTOMOTIVE noise and a heightened sense of "air pollution".

     

     

    There are!

    This is why muscle cars dont sound like this anymore...

     

    But they are subdued like this

     

    with almost double the horsepower...

    And about the air pollution thing...

     

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    This is why muscle cars don't sound like this anymore...


    They didn't sound like that new either - that's aftermarket exhaust, sounds like FlowMasters (founded in the '80s for sprint cars). Also available for the Hellcat, BTW. ;)
    Check the comments for the Challenger video... see how many are complaining.
     

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    18 minutes ago, balthazar said:

     


    They didn't sound like that new either - that's aftermarket exhaust, sounds like FlowMasters (founded in the '80s for sprint cars). Also available for the Hellcat, BTW. ;)
    Check the comments for the Challenger video... see how many are complaining.
     


    Always with the semantics...

    You very well know that noise pollution laws took in effect sometime in the 1970s regarding loud engine exhaust noises.

    So much so...that even AFTERMARKET exhausts even for classic cars cannot exceed a certain amount of decibels...which I am tooo lazy to google...yet, the jist of those videos was exactly that...

    A modern Hellcat cannot, will not pass noise pollution laws leaving the factory loud...

    In the 1960s, there was an option for muffler delete on your factory optioned big block muscle car, therefore, that 1970 Challenger would definitely leave the factory being that loud and although that Hellcat may have an aftermarket exhaust...its still subdued...

    And hence this video Im about to post

     

     

    But if the cops catch you with that bypass open, you get a fine...

    There is a reason for such laws to have been passed, because there were people complaining...

    Therefore...my original post still stands true....and yours...not so much 😯

     

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    1 hour ago, ocnblu said:

    I was asking why any OEM would spend the money to develop a work van that is much higher priced, and hamstrung by electric propulsion.

    Because most of the work is already being done for their other EV pursuits and why not make an option for customers who have a very specific use profile. This isn't going to be the answer for every Joe the Plumber out there, but there is a market for it for local delivery, hotel shuttles, and similar. They already have the body shell, they already have the power train in development. Put the two together.

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    1 hour ago, ocnblu said:

    I was asking why any OEM would spend the money to develop a work van that is much higher priced, and hamstrung by electric propulsion.

    Not hamstrung by electric propulsion and even if 15 to 20K higher priced, the savings on maintenance, oil, gas will easily off set and have bigger savings over a 3-5 year period than gas.

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    @oldshurst442 In the US, auto exhaust noise cannot go over 95 decibels. Many rock concerts break the 105 decibel limit that does cause hearing loss. Harley Davidson has come under fire as their open header bikes have often broke the sound limit and in the cities, you are very correct that many people complain about the noise waking them up during the night when sleeping.

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    24 minutes ago, dfelt said:

    Not hamstrung by electric propulsion and even if 15 to 20K higher priced, the savings on maintenance, oil, gas will easily off set and have bigger savings over a 3-5 year period than gas.

    Right, think of an airport off site parking shuttle company that runs an Econoline or Transit van/bus 50,000 miles a year or more at 10-15 mpg.  Then compare to what an electric van would cost to operate.  There are loads of applications for an electric van.

    As far as muscle cars go that was brought up, this has 1,900 hp, and I don't think an V8s are going to touch this Pinanfirina:

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    Electric is the future.

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    V8s aren't going to touch the 1900 HP pininfarina not because it's faster, but because no one will ever see this $2.5 million dollar proposal. Because it's $2.5 million dollars. If it gets built.
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    Re an electric pass van operating costs- that depends on it's pricing. Unless Daimler can somehow stop themselves from gouging van customers -- after all, there is zero passion about buying a commercial van; it's all about the bottom line -- and not tack another $25K onto the $40K the sprinter diesel starts at, there is no cost comparison to a TD Transit (which gets 17 MPG composite, not 10, nor does it get the 14.5 MPG the sprinter TD has been demonstrated to return). You'd get AT LEAST 10 years of being ahead of the game in a TD commercial van over an EV. They need to be priced competitively to "be the future".

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    16 minutes ago, balthazar said:

    V8s aren't going to touch the 1900 HP pininfarina not because it's faster, but because no one will ever see this $2.5 million dollar proposal. Because it's $2.5 million dollars. If it gets built.
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    Re an electric pass van operating costs- that depends on it's pricing. Unless Daimler can somehow stop themselves from gouging van customers -- after all, there is zero passion about buying a commercial van; it's all about the bottom line -- and not tack another $25K onto the $40K the sprinter diesel starts at, there is no cost comparison to a TD Transit (which gets 17 MPG composite, not 10, nor does it get the 14.5 MPG the sprinter TD has been demonstrated to return). You'd get AT LEAST 10 years of being ahead of the game in a TD commercial van over an EV. They need to be priced competitively to "be the future".

    I totally disagree with you on the Sprinter TD van. Sadly my brother inlaw who has an appliance service business has replaced all of them less than 5 years old due to high maintenance cost, breakage constantly compared to the Ford vans he replaced them with. Sprinters are not reliable as MB would like to make them out to be. I hope their EV van is far better.

    CNG converted vans have been proven to totally offset the high conversion price at 15K miles a year in service compared to gas or diesel. EV's will do the same thing due to low maintenance and lower cost to recharge the battery packs.

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    That totally depends on the purchase price! It takes many years to offset tens of thousands more spent on Day 1- one can't legally  buy a brand new vehicle with Monopoly money (unfortunately). Saving the cost of 2 or 3 oil changes per year is a drop in the bucket if it cost you $25K to do so.

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    13 hours ago, balthazar said:

     


    They didn't sound like that new either - that's aftermarket exhaust, sounds like FlowMasters (founded in the '80s for sprint cars). Also available for the Hellcat, BTW. ;)
    Check the comments for the Challenger video... see how many are complaining.
     

    People complained about the S550(pre-'19) Mustang GT being too quiet from the factory as well. Any comparison with the Camaro SS somebody would mention the weak exhaust from the Mustang compared to the SS.

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    12 hours ago, dfelt said:

    Not hamstrung by electric propulsion and even if 15 to 20K higher priced, the savings on maintenance, oil, gas will easily off set and have bigger savings over a 3-5 year period than gas.

    Zero chance 15-20k is paid off in 3-5 years. You're on drugs if you think an EV version of the same vehicle can pay itself off in 3-5 years. 

    The owner won't even use 15-20k in gas. 

    15000 miles/year

    15mpg

    $2.40/gallon

    $7200-$12000. 

    I would think 15,000 miles/year is about worse case scenario with an electric work van, too. 

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    Isn't UPS buying a bunch of electric vans?  I would think UPS, Fed Ex, Amazon etc would be looking closely at electric vans, along w/ the USPS to replace the old Grumman boxes.

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    36 minutes ago, ccap41 said:

    Zero chance 15-20k is paid off in 3-5 years. You're on drugs if you think an EV version of the same vehicle can pay itself off in 3-5 years. 

    The owner won't even use 15-20k in gas. 

    15000 miles/year

    15mpg

    $2.40/gallon

    $7200-$12000. 

    I would think 15,000 miles/year is about worst case scenario with an electric work van, too. 

    According to FedEx and UPS you have the following details.

    FedEx delivery drivers average 160 miles a day. 52 weeks in a year @ 5 days a week equal the following math (5 * 160 *52 = 41,600 miles a year driven)

    UPS delivery drivers average 200 miles a day. Same formula (5 * 200 * 52 = 52,000 miles a year driven)

    Pretty much most service companies average 15,000 miles a year or more so recovering a 15-20K up front cost is very realistic in the first 24 months. The formulas for LNG or CNG converted products have shown that with those fuels selling at half the price of Diesel even with the conversion cost of the motor and the LNG / CNG fuel tank costs, that most often those cost are recovered in 24 months and then bigger savings happen over the longer life due to less maintenance for LNG/CNG over diesel or Gas. I know for a fact that my brother in-laws appliance repair business they average 20,000 miles a year on the work vans. Showed him this last night and while he is put off by the Sprinter van, he did say he would be willing to buy one and see how it did on the routes. He is interested in reducing the overall costs to his vehicle fleet and would love it if Ford or GM would offer a full size electric van.

    With EV vans the cost of maintenance is even lower and the cost of electricity is lower so recovering this upfront cost should be very doable in the first could years.

    With examples of only 2 or 3 oil changes a year, this ignores that the more driving the more maintenance on an ICE auto. There is more than just oil changes too on an ICE auto that needs to be looked at. Brakes, differential, transmission, so much more costs on ICEV compared to EV.

    23 minutes ago, Robert Hall said:

    Isn't UPS buying a bunch of electric vans?  I would think UPS, Fed Ex, Amazon etc would be looking closely at electric vans, along w/ the USPS to replace the old Grumman boxes.

    Yes, UPS, FedEx and USPS have all stated they plan to replace ICE auto's with EV's especially for inner city use or dense suburban areas. Just like they are replacing their Diesel semi's with LNG/CNG ones. All about reducing costs in maintenance, fuel and helping with cleaner air.

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    9 minutes ago, ccap41 said:

    Those are trucks, not work vans. 

    UPS, FedEx use Vans for delivery here in Washington, have not had trucks in years. Maybe they still use the old trucks around you. But the Dually wheel sprinter Van is in use here. Those are 1 ton vans that would easily be replaced by a service version of this EV van.

    USPS uses a weird range of vans and other auto's around here as I have seen less and less of the old traditional white box auto who ever built them.

    These are very common here in the neighborhoods making deliveries. Easily replaced by an electric version.

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    Amazon Prime uses the Sprinter vans all over the west coast, easily replaced by an electric version.

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    UPS delivery vans like this is what we see every day on the streets and in the neighborhoods.

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    Same with Fedex

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    All these ICE vans can easily be replaced by electric versions.

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    Around here in the Cleveland burbs, Amazon Prime and Fed Ex use Ford Transits (and there are plenty of Amazon sub contractors in all sorts of vehicles).  UPS still has the big brown unbranded trucks.  USPS still has the ancient Grumman trucks.

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    UPS uses some electric van I don't recognize in downtown Pittsburgh for deliveries.  USPS uses fleets of Promasters.  Fedex is mainly Sprinters or Transits.

    The Sprinters don't seem to hold up against rust, though that's not a powertrain deficiency. 

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    27 minutes ago, Drew Dowdell said:

    UPS uses some electric van I don't recognize in downtown Pittsburgh for deliveries.  USPS uses fleets of Promasters.  Fedex is mainly Sprinters or Transits.

    The Sprinters don't seem to hold up against rust, though that's not a powertrain deficiency. 

    UPS uses Workhorse electric vans in the US and ARRIVAL electric vans in the UK.

    https://pressroom.ups.com/pressroom/ContentDetailsViewer.page?ConceptType=PressReleases&id=1525867012405-924

    https://pressroom.ups.com/pressroom/ContentDetailsViewer.page?ConceptType=PressReleases&id=1441744963510-216

    https://pressroom.ups.com/pressroom/ContentDetailsViewer.page?ConceptType=PressReleases&id=1446039616630-395

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    why do people think they have to stand in the way of progress. if you don't want one, don't buy one. 

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      Make no mistake though, the Z Proto packs a powerful punch. Under the elongated hood is an enhanced V6 twin-turbocharged engine mated to a six-speed manual gearbox. As a prototype, work is now underway to synchronize the power with the grace and control that has defined the Z for the past 50 years.
      "Nissan is transforming its business," said Uchida. "This summer, we unveiled the ground breaking all-electric Nissan Ariya crossover, which represents the future of mobility. Even as we open this new chapter, the Z, its heritage and passion, express who we are and has been shaping our DNA for over fifty years."
      Nissan Z Proto Specifications
      Z Proto specifications*
      Engine
      V6 twin turbo
      Transmission
      6-speed manual
      (an automatic option is also in development)
      Length
      172.5 inches
      Width
      72.8 inches
      Height
      51.6 inches
      Wheel and tire size
      Front: 255/40R19
      Rear: 285/35R19

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    • By William Maley
      You would think that Nissan has forgotten about the 370Z, considering not much has been done to it in some time. But the Japanese automaker wants to make it clear they haven't forgotten about their sports car. They have been quietly working on the next-generation model.
      Last night, Nissan introduced the Z Proto which is a thinly-veiled concept of the next-generation model, possibly named 400Z due out within the next few years.
      You will instantly recognize the Z Proto as being part of the Z family. Nissan's designers draw quite heavily from the original 240Z up front as evidenced by the hood, teardrop-shaped LED headlamps (only available on Japanese-market 240), and square lower grille. The side profile also has another nod to the 240Z with the cabin pushed far back. In the back, echoes of the 90's 300ZX with a sloping roofline and rear light treatment.
      The interior looks production ready with a digital gauge cluster, dished steering wheel, sport seats with yellow contrasts, and a six-speed manual. The only callback to older Z models is a three-gauge binnacle sitting on top of the dash.
      Nissan is keeping mum on the two important parts of the Z Proto - engine and chassis. On the former, Nissan says the concept uses a twin-turbo V6 - possibly being the 3.0L used in the Q50 and Q60. This engine produces either 300 or 400 horsepower depending on the version. We may see a smaller engine option being available on the production model.
      According to Nissan, "work is now underway to synchronize the power with the grace and control that has defined the Z for the past 50 years." Hopefully, more details begin to spill out before its debut.
       
      Source: Nissan
      Press Release is on Page 2


      New Nissan Z Proto looks to the future, inspired by its past
      NASHVILLE, Tenn. – The new Z is coming.
      Nissan has unveiled the Z Proto, signalling the company's intent to launch a new generation of the legendary Z sports car. Shown at an event beamed around the world from the Nissan Pavilion in Yokohama, Japan, the prototype features new design inside and out, as well as an upgraded powertrain with a manual transmission.
      In Franklin, just south of Nashville, hundreds of Z owners and enthusiasts watched the Z Proto's Yokohama debut on big screens from their vehicles in a socially distanced event– part of a weeklong schedule of activities during the 33rd annual International Z Convention (ZCON).
      First hinted at in a brand teaser video, "Nissan A-Z," shown in May, the Nissan Z Proto pays full respect to 50 years of Z heritage. At the same time, it's a thoroughly modern sports car.
      "The Z represents the joy of driving in its purest form and has helped shape Nissan's DNA as a passionate, innovative challenger," said Nissan CEO Makoto Uchida. "Ever since the first generation, it has captured the hearts of car enthusiasts all over the world. That's why we're so excited today to be able to say to them: Yes, the next one is coming!"
      Z Proto is one of 10 new vehicles that Nissan is showing for the U.S. in 20 months, along with top-sellers like Sentra and Rogue, and innovative new models like the all-electric Ariya crossover.
      "The United States is home to one of the most devoted and enthusiastic Z communities in the world, with nearly 1.35 million total sales over the model's 50-year history," said Mike Colleran, senior vice president, Nissan U.S. Marketing and Sales. "With new models like Sentra and Rogue opening new eyes to our brand, Z Proto is our loudest statement yet that Nissan will continue to bring vehicles that thrill to U.S. showrooms."
      Z Proto exterior: past meets future
      Sporting a bright yellow pearlescent paint – a tribute to a popular paint scheme on both the first-generation 240Z and the 300ZX – the Z Proto boasts a fresh, attractive exterior design with a silhouette that communicates respect to the original model.
      Using a theme that combines elements of previous generations while also projecting futurism was challenging, said Alfonso Albaisa, head of design at Nissan.
      "Our designers made countless studies and sketches as we researched each generation and what made them a success," Albaisa said. "Ultimately, we decided the Z Proto should travel between the decades, including the future."
      The shape of the hood and the canted, teardrop-shaped LED headlights are both unmistakable reminders of the original Z. The rectangular grille dimensions are similar to the current model, although the grille fins nod to the past. The form continues to exude both sportiness and elegance.
      "The LED headlights have two half-circles that hark back to the Japan market-only 240ZG of the 70s," Albaisa explained. "The ZG has clear dome lenses over the headlight buckets, which under light give off two circular reflections over each headlight. We liked that unique characteristic and discovered that it naturally fit with the Z's identity."
      The link to the original Z is most striking when viewing the Z Proto from the side. The roofline flows from the nose to the squared-off rear to create a distinctive first-generation Z profile whose rear edge was slightly lower than the front fender height giving the Z its unique posture. The signature transition from the rear quarter glass to the low-slung position of the rear tail adds to the effect.
      The rear takes inspiration from the 300ZX taillights, reinterpreted for the modern world. Set within a rectangular black section that runs across the rear and wraps around the outer edges, the LED taillights convey a sharp glow.
      Lightweight carbon fiber treatments on the side skirts, front lower lip and rear valance ensure nimble performance. 19-inch alloy wheels and dual exhausts complete the Z Proto's striking road presence.
      Z Proto interior: modern tech with a vintage touch
      Designed to fit driver and passenger like a glove, the Z Proto's cabin seamlessly blends modern technology with vintage Z touches.
      The interior design team sought advice from professional motorsports legends to give the Z Proto an ideal sports car cabin, both for road and track. This can be seen in the Z's instrumentation. All vital information is found in the 12.3-inch digital meter display and arranged to help the driver grasp it at a glance, such as the redline shift point at the twelve o-clock position.
      The new, deep dish steering wheel offers the driver quick access controls without losing its vintage aesthetic.
      Yellow accents are found throughout the cabin, including stitching on the instrument panel. The seats feature special accent piping and layered seat material to create depth.
      Sports car joy: an exhilarating, dynamic performer
      The original Z was built to bring the joy and excitement of sports car ownership to as many people as possible.
      "The Z has always been a strong dynamic performer, making it easy for customers to enjoy its capabilities and feel as connected as possible to the car," said Hiroshi Tamura, chief product specialist of the Z Proto. "This has been true through all its generations, and this is what drives our passion to innovate and challenge the norm."
      Each new generation had a more powerful engine, although the Z is about more than power increases.
      "Z is more than just powerful and agile," Tamura continued. "It is designed to create a connection with the driver, for the car to be a 'dance partner' for their on-road adventures."
      Make no mistake though, the Z Proto packs a powerful punch. Under the elongated hood is an enhanced V6 twin-turbocharged engine mated to a six-speed manual gearbox. As a prototype, work is now underway to synchronize the power with the grace and control that has defined the Z for the past 50 years.
      "Nissan is transforming its business," said Uchida. "This summer, we unveiled the ground breaking all-electric Nissan Ariya crossover, which represents the future of mobility. Even as we open this new chapter, the Z, its heritage and passion, express who we are and has been shaping our DNA for over fifty years."
      Nissan Z Proto Specifications
      Z Proto specifications*
      Engine
      V6 twin turbo
      Transmission
      6-speed manual
      (an automatic option is also in development)
      Length
      172.5 inches
      Width
      72.8 inches
      Height
      51.6 inches
      Wheel and tire size
      Front: 255/40R19
      Rear: 285/35R19
    • By David
      According to Electrek web site, VW will open up their reservation system in September. Online reservations for the ID.4 EV will only require a $100 deposit. VW production of the ID.4 for European and Chinese markets has started and is on size to compete with the Tesla Y small CUV. The auto is expected to have about 250 miles of range in base form and start at $40,000. 300 miles plus for the top trim version. Production for the North American Market will start in early 2022 at Chattanooga Factory upon the construction completion of the assembly line and battery production plant. The auto has a .28 drag coefficient.
      ID.4 Concept

      https://electrek.co/2020/08/27/vw-id4-electric-suv-orders-september-deposit/
      Thanks to a Chinese web site not being secure, actual production models have been caught before the official introduction. A muscular clean CUV EV is seen here and close to the Concept.




      https://electrek.co/2020/06/17/leaked-photos-of-vw-id-4-electric-crossover-reveal-clean-design/
    • By David
      Lots of interesting stuff happening as GM by divisions starts to release more info on their EV programs.
      First is a interesting video on their Ultium batteries. This clearly shows how versatile they can build the battery packs.
      https://plants.gm.com/media/us/en/gm/bcportal.html/currentVideoId/6157651202001/currentChannelId/Most Recent.gsaOff.html
      Multiple-cell-configurations-within-Ultium-modules.mp4

      They have released a video of a side profile of the new Chevrolet Bolt morphing into the Bolt EUV. I was able to download the video and as such, way more visual detail than on the posted web sites below are showing.
      https://media.chevrolet.com/media/us/en/chevrolet/home.html
      chevrolet-bolt-euv-teaser-1598391287.mp4
      https://www.caranddriver.com/news/a33799068/chevy-2022-bolt-bolt-euv-tease/
      https://www.autoblog.com/2020/08/26/2022-chevy-bolt-euv-teaser-video/
      https://www.carscoops.com/2020/08/chevrolet-teases-2022-bolt-euv-and-ev-confirms-super-cruise-for-electric-suv/
      https://insideevs.com/news/440899/chevrolet-bolt-euv-production-summer-2021/
       
      Have to say the upcoming update to the Chevrolet Bolt and the EUV is nice looking and should sell even better than the old Bolt. Truly a much more CUV look.
    • By William Maley
      A new brand will join under the Hyundai umbrella come next year. Dubbed Ioniq, this brand will focus on electric vehicles and launch their first model come 2021.
      That first model will be a midsize crossover called the Ioniq 5. Based on the 45 Concept first shown at the Frankfurt Motor Show last year, the 5 follows a different beat in terms of design from other Hyundai models with sharp lines and corners, narrow grille, and a interior that is very minimalist. Spy shots from earlier in the year showed that Hyundai is planning to make this into a production model, likely using an electric powertrain.

      Next up is the 6 which again will base its design on another Hyundai concept. That concept is the Prophecy which appears to be a mashup of the Tesla Model S and Porsche Taycan. This model will appear in 2022. Rounding out the family is the Ioniq 7, a large SUV that will debut in 2024.
      All of the vehicles will utilize the upcoming Electric Global Modular Platform (E-GMP), which promises "fast charging capability and plentiful driving range." Expect to see this platform used on other vehicles part of the Hyundai umbrella (Kia and Genesis). 
      But what will this mean for the current Hyundai Ioniq (hybrid, plug-in hybrid, and electric)? According to the automaker, these models will keep the Ioniq name but have the addition of the powertrain type to it.
      Source: Hyundai
      Press Release is on Page 2


      Hyundai Motor Announces IONIQ Brand Dedicated to EVs, Opening New Chapter for Customer-Centric EV Experiences
      Hyundai’s dedicated EV brand IONIQ embodies company’s smart mobility vision Company aims to offer connected lifestyle experience to customers with IONIQ brand models Hyundai will introduce three innovative IONIQ EV models over the next four years, starting early 2021 with IONIQ 5, a midsize EV CUV based on the concept ‘45’ IONIQ EV models will be built on the E-GMP platform IONIQ brand embodies Hyundai’s commitment to provide connected lifestyle solutions Hyundai celebrated the brand launch by turning the London Eye into a giant letter ‘Q’ with electric lights SEOUL, August 9, 2020 – Hyundai Motor Company today announced the launch of its new IONIQ brand dedicated to battery electric vehicles, opening a new chapter as a leader in the era of electrified mobility. Under the IONIQ brand, Hyundai will offer customer centric EV experiences centered on connected lifestyle solutions in line with Hyundai’s vision of ‘Progress for Humanity’.
      Under the IONIQ brand, Hyundai Motor will leverage its industry-leading manufacturing know-how in EVs to introduce three new dedicated models over the next four years with more innovative models to follow. The creation of IONIQ brand is in response to fast-growing market demand and accelerates Hyundai’s plan to lead the global EV market.
      To fulfill IONIQ’s brand mission, Hyundai will combine its current EV capabilities – such as ultra-fast charging, spacious interior, and battery-supplied power – with future innovations that combine design, technologies and services to integrate in-car and out-of-car experiences for a seamless journey.  
      “The IONIQ brand will change the paradigm of EV customer experience,” said Wonhong Cho, Executive Vice President and Global Chief Marketing Officer at Hyundai Motor Company. “With a new emphasis on connected living, we will offer electrified experiences integral to an eco-friendly lifestyle.”
      Rebirth of IONIQ 
      Hyundai first introduced the term IONIQ, which fuses “ion” and “unique”, when it announced Project IONIQ, a long-term research and development project focused on eco-friendly mobility. Based on the project, Hyundai in 2016 introduced a vehicle named IONIQ, the world’s first and only model to offer a choice of three electrified powertrain options – hybrid electric, plug-in hybrid and battery electric – within a single body type. Now, IONIQ represents Hyundai’s growing commitment to sustainability and innovation and will be instrumental in achieving the company’s clean mobility goals. 
      IONIQ brand was conceived to fuse life changing mobility with environmental performance and has so far been instrumental in delivering progress electrified. IONIQ will continue to create a new balance in clean mobility synchronizing eco-products within an eco-system of lifestyle solutions bringing connected living to a new generation.
      IONIQ 5 / IONIQ 6 / IONIQ 7 
      Hyundai will be launching a range of numerically named EVs under the new brand, with the even numbers used for sedans and the odd numbers for SUVs.
      The first model under the IONIQ brand will be the IONIQ 5 midsize CUV that will launch in early 2021. IONIQ 5 is based on the concept EV ‘45’, which Hyundai unveiled at the International Motor Show (IAA) 2019 in Frankfurt as a homage to its very first concept car. IONIQ 5’s designers took inspiration from the past and integrated it with cutting-edge parametric pixels, a unique design element that Hyundai designers will continue to incorporate into future IONIQ models.
      In 2022, Hyundai will introduce IONIQ 6 sedan, which is based on the company’s latest concept EV ‘Prophecy’, unveiled in March; followed by IONIQ 7, a large SUV in early 2024. Prophecy’s iconic exterior design is characterized by its aerodynamic silhouette of perfect proportions.
      Likewise, IONIQ vehicles’ designs will have a common theme of ‘Timeless Value’. The vehicles will be inspired by past models, but they will be a bridge to the future. 
      E-GMP platform 
      IONIQ brand models will sit on an Electric Global Modular Platform, known as E-GMP, that will enable fast charging capability and plentiful driving range.
      The EV-dedicated platform will allow Hyundai to reimagine the vehicle interior as “smart living space” with highly adjustable seats, wireless connectivity and unique features such as a glove box designed as drawers. The platform paradigm shift will extend into the user interfaces that will be simple, intuitive and ergonomically designed to help occupants feel at ease.  
      Strategy 2025 
      Hyundai Motor Group recently announced that the group aims to sell 1 million units of battery electric vehicles and take 10 percent share to become a leader in the global EV field by 2025.
      Under Strategy 2025, Hyundai Motor Company itself aims to become the world's third-largest automaker of eco-friendly vehicles by 2025, with 560,000 BEV sales in addition to FCEV sales.
      The launch of the IONIQ brand dedicated to EV models reinforces the company’s commitment to clean mobility and reflects its ongoing transformation as a Smart Mobility Solution Provider with zero-emissions solutions.  

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