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    Interactive Review: 2020 Volvo V60 T8 Polestar

      A mad Swedish Wagon arrives for a week-long review

    Taking the place of the Genesis G70 this week in the C&G Detroit Bureau is the 2020 Volvo V60 T8 Polestar. Aside from the long name, this Volvo gives us our first chance to check out the T8 powertrain. In Volvo terms, this is a 2.0L four-cylinder that comes super and turbocharged, and boasts two electric motors. This gives a total of 415 horsepower and 494 pound-feet of torque. It also gives the wagon an electric only range of 22 miles - something I'll be checking out once I get the battery fully charged.

    Pricing on this wagon comes in at an as-tested price of $68,940.

    Some first impressions below,

    • This powertrain pulls the V60 along like a train.
    • Being a Polestar Engineered model, the V60 comes with adjustable Ohlins Dampers and a stiffer front strut bar. I can't comfirm its handling characteristics yet, but can say ride quality is a bit on the rough side.
    • Gold seatbelts.

    I'll have a bit more to talk about as the week goes on with the V60 Polestar, so stay tuned. Also, drop a question or two on this speedy Swede.

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    I honestly have to say this looks good, but complicated from a power train standpoint.

    Questions:

    1. Is this just a less luxury version of the V90?
    2. How does it compare room wise to the XC version inside?
    3. Other than a lower AWD auto, a comparison to the XC60 and how it compares to the 90 series would be great.
    4. Does it feel like your sitting in a hole when you get in?
    5. How does the Greenhouse feel over all from the inside? Bunker like?
    6. Is there any noticeable transition between ICE and EV?
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    1 hour ago, balthazar said:

    $69 grand for a volvo? 🥴

    You haven't seen anything yet, an XC90 can reach $100k.

    2 hours ago, David said:

    I honestly have to say this looks good, but complicated from a power train standpoint.

    Questions:

    1. Is this just a less luxury version of the V90?
    2. How does it compare room wise to the XC version inside?
    3. Other than a lower AWD auto, a comparison to the XC60 and how it compares to the 90 series would be great.
    4. Does it feel like your sitting in a hole when you get in?
    5. How does the Greenhouse feel over all from the inside? Bunker like?
    6. Is there any noticeable transition between ICE and EV?
    1. Not really, I would say the V60 and V90 are similar in terms of features and packages.
    2. No real change in terms of seating space when compared to the V60 Cross Country I drove earlier in the year. You will notice a shortage of storage space due to the battery.
    3. Will revisit later in the week as I need more driving time before comparing it to a S90. No experience with the XC60.
    4. Not really.
    5. Surprisingly airy.
    6. Not that I have come across yet. Will revisit after I have more time.
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    A wagon is going to be a non-seller.  I don't think $69k is a bad price for that level of performance and the fuel economy and electric range.  I think if this was a little cheaper it would be more compelling, also if it was rear wheel drive based.  On power they top the CT4/CT5-V and Genesis G70 and Acura TLX Type-S which is about $55k.  

    I assume this is available in sedan version or will be, I think the current Volvos look good on the inside and out, but I'd question the performance of the front wheel drive chassis compared to all the rear drive cars in the $60-70k range.  At $40k, it doesn't matter, you aren't getting big performance at that price.

     

    Question is he is how is handling and performance compared to the cheaper G70, because Volvo is pushing this as a performance car and nearing some AMG and M pricing.

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    1 hour ago, smk4565 said:

    A wagon is going to be a non-seller.  I don't think $69k is a bad price for that level of performance and the fuel economy and electric range.  I think if this was a little cheaper it would be more compelling, also if it was rear wheel drive based.  On power they top the CT4/CT5-V and Genesis G70 and Acura TLX Type-S which is about $55k.  

    I assume this is available in sedan version or will be, I think the current Volvos look good on the inside and out, but I'd question the performance of the front wheel drive chassis compared to all the rear drive cars in the $60-70k range.  At $40k, it doesn't matter, you aren't getting big performance at that price.

     

    Question is he is how is handling and performance compared to the cheaper G70, because Volvo is pushing this as a performance car and nearing some AMG and M pricing.

    Your FWD assertions are irrelevant since this an AWD only model. The Mercedes CLA 45 AMG doesn’t seems to face the same scrutiny despite its FWD roots though. I wonder why?

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    7 hours ago, surreal1272 said:

    Your FWD assertions are irrelevant since this an AWD only model. The Mercedes CLA 45 AMG doesn’t seems to face the same scrutiny despite its FWD roots though. I wonder why?

    I’d gladly match up the CLA45’s performance against the V60 Polestar.  The CLA45 is 700 lbs lighter, that’s a lot less weight to haul around.  
     

    Also Volvo S60/V60 are sized and priced more like a C-class.  The problem with these Polestar Volvos, or any Volvo, is they don’t have better performance than an AMG or M or Tesla, don’t have a better interior than an Audi or Mercedes, aren’t priced better than a Genesis.   So the brand is kind of lost.

     

    And does this performance Volvo have a top speed of 112 mph because of safety restrictions?

     

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    1 hour ago, smk4565 said:

    I’d gladly match up the CLA45’s performance against the V60 Polestar.  The CLA45 is 700 lbs lighter, that’s a lot less weight to haul around.  
     

    Also Volvo S60/V60 are sized and priced more like a C-class.  The problem with these Polestar Volvos, or any Volvo, is they don’t have better performance than an AMG or M or Tesla, don’t have a better interior than an Audi or Mercedes, aren’t priced better than a Genesis.   So the brand is kind of lost.

     

    And does this performance Volvo have a top speed of 112 mph because of safety restrictions?

     

    Missed the point by a country mile. We will skip the part where, duh, yes the CLA is lighter. That’s because it’s a smaller car and add to the fact that the Volvo is a hybrid. It does not change my point or statement whatsoever. The time you spend tearing down anything without that precious tri-Star on the hood is simply baffling. 

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    2 hours ago, surreal1272 said:

    Missed the point by a country mile. We will skip the part where, duh, yes the CLA is lighter. That’s because it’s a smaller car and add to the fact that the Volvo is a hybrid. It does not change my point or statement whatsoever. The time you spend tearing down anything without that precious tri-Star on the hood is simply baffling. 

    I didn't tear it down, I said it isn't a bad price for the combo of performance and fuel economy.  But wagons are non-sellers in general.  And this new era of Volvo is much better than it was in the Ford ownership days, but I don't think a single product they make is considered near the top in their segment and a 2 liter 4 cylinder is the biggest engine the brand has.  That's a fine engine for small sedans and crossovers but can you imagine Cadillac saying the biggest engine they will offer is a 2 liter 4 cylinder?  Or that the CT5-V will have a top speed of 112 mph?

    And the CLA45 has great performance for front wheel drive, but it is doesn't have the performance of a C63 or GLC63 that send power to the rear wheels.  I am not anti front wheel drive, I am anti-front wheel drive for $70,000 when there are significantly better performing rear wheel drive cars at that price.  

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    9 hours ago, regfootball said:

    Good thing that this one at that price, the final assembly at least in Sweden.  not say, China.

    Some V60s are built in Belgium...the S60 sedan is assembled in S. Carolina.

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    On 8/22/2020 at 12:36 PM, smk4565 said:

    I didn't tear it down, I said it isn't a bad price for the combo of performance and fuel economy.  But wagons are non-sellers in general.  And this new era of Volvo is much better than it was in the Ford ownership days, but I don't think a single product they make is considered near the top in their segment and a 2 liter 4 cylinder is the biggest engine the brand has.  That's a fine engine for small sedans and crossovers but can you imagine Cadillac saying the biggest engine they will offer is a 2 liter 4 cylinder?  Or that the CT5-V will have a top speed of 112 mph?

    And the CLA45 has great performance for front wheel drive, but it is doesn't have the performance of a C63 or GLC63 that send power to the rear wheels.  I am not anti front wheel drive, I am anti-front wheel drive for $70,000 when there are significantly better performing rear wheel drive cars at that price.  

    Well good thing its not FWD. It’s AWD and while you rag on the lack of cylinders, you skip the fact that it is over 400HP and pulls like a train and is faster off the line than the Benz E450 (with a price that is only slightly higher than the CLA45 AMG with its FOUR cylinders and less power). And where in the article does it mention a 112MPH limit (which doesn’t mean $h! anyway in the U.S. given that we have this little thing called “speed limits”)? Oh, thats right. It isn’t limited to 112. Here are the numbers from another source:


    TEST RESULTS
    Rollout, 1 ft: 0.3 sec
    60 mph: 4.4 sec
    100 mph: 10.9 sec
    130 mph: 21.7 sec
    Rolling start, 5–60 mph: 4.8 sec
    Top gear, 30–50 mph: 2.4 sec
    Top gear, 50–70 mph: 3.4 sec
    ¼-mile: 12.9 sec @ 107 mph
    Top speed (governor limited): 131 mph
    Braking, 70–0 mph: 152 ft
    Roadholding, 300-ft-dia skidpad: 0.96 g

     

     

     

    If you’re going to slam a non-Mercedes car, make sure you slam it with actual facts.

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    Some quick updates on the V60 Polestar after a few days

    • On 120V, a full charge takes between 8-10 hours. I don't know if the charger can handle a 240V outlet, going to bring in the owners manual to find out.
    • Able to squeeze out around 24 miles on just electric power alone
    • Handling is pretty decent with minimal body roll and quick steering. But you can tell there is a lot of weight because of the battery pack and electric motor
    • Volvo Sensus has been actually behaving unlike in the previous S60/V60 I drove earlier in the year. Boots up slightly faster and hasn't run into performance bottlenecks.

     

    On 8/21/2020 at 10:55 PM, smk4565 said:

    Question is he is how is handling and performance compared to the cheaper G70, because Volvo is pushing this as a performance car and nearing some AMG and M pricing.

    I would say the G70 is better, mostly due to it being lighter than the V60 Polestar and having slightly better steering. 

    And yes, you can get the S60 in Polestar form.

    On 8/22/2020 at 8:10 AM, smk4565 said:

    And does this performance Volvo have a top speed of 112 mph because of safety restrictions?

    I don't believe so, but I can double check that shortly. I think that 112 mph limit is going to be on future models, and it is really non-issue unless you're driving on the Autobahn or arguing on a forum.

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    9 hours ago, surreal1272 said:

    Well good thing its not FWD. It’s AWD and while you rag on the lack of cylinders, you skip the fact that it is over 400HP and pulls like a train and is faster off the line than the Benz E450 (with a price that is only slightly higher than the CLA45 AMG with its FOUR cylinders and less power). And where in the article does it mention a 112MPH limit (which doesn’t mean $h! anyway in the U.S. given that we have this little thing called “speed limits”)? Oh, thats right. It isn’t limited to 112. Here are the numbers from another source:


    TEST RESULTS
    Rollout, 1 ft: 0.3 sec
    60 mph: 4.4 sec
    100 mph: 10.9 sec
    130 mph: 21.7 sec
    Rolling start, 5–60 mph: 4.8 sec
    Top gear, 30–50 mph: 2.4 sec
    Top gear, 50–70 mph: 3.4 sec
    ¼-mile: 12.9 sec @ 107 mph
    Top speed (governor limited): 131 mph
    Braking, 70–0 mph: 152 ft
    Roadholding, 300-ft-dia skidpad: 0.96 g

     

     

     

    If you’re going to slam a non-Mercedes car, make sure you slam it with actual facts.

    First off the E450 is a whole size class bigger than the V60, and the E-class interior blows away an S90, let alone the V60.  Secondly, the V60 has a transverse engine and transmission so all that weight sits over top of the front wheels.  The last V60 Polestar has a 60/40 weight split which is no bueno.  

    A more fair fight for the Volvo would be a a CLA45 shooting brake if they make another one, or even a GLB45 would be closer in size, price and performance.   The plus for Volvo is no direct competitor exists, this is like a luxury trim Subaru STi Wagon.  

    Although a Tesla Model Y Performance with Autopilot is $69k and is very close in size to a V60 Polestar, and the Tesla is more efficient and does 0-60 in 3.5 seconds.

    As far as top speed, Volvo said a year ago that they would start limiting all their products to 112 mph top speed.  

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    2 hours ago, smk4565 said:

    First off the E450 is a whole size class bigger than the V60, and the E-class interior blows away an S90, let alone the V60.  Secondly, the V60 has a transverse engine and transmission so all that weight sits over top of the front wheels.  The last V60 Polestar has a 60/40 weight split which is no bueno.  

    A more fair fight for the Volvo would be a a CLA45 shooting brake if they make another one, or even a GLB45 would be closer in size, price and performance.   The plus for Volvo is no direct competitor exists, this is like a luxury trim Subaru STi Wagon.  

    Although a Tesla Model Y Performance with Autopilot is $69k and is very close in size to a V60 Polestar, and the Tesla is more efficient and does 0-60 in 3.5 seconds.

    As far as top speed, Volvo said a year ago that they would start limiting all their products to 112 mph top speed.  

    The CLA is as short compared to the V60 as the V60 is to the E Class and you totally missed the point of it any way. You were wrong on the speed limit (only took me thirty seconds to find the numbers posted above from another publication) and as William said, that limit doesn’t mean squat unless you live in Germany. The V60 weighs pretty much the same as an E Class wagon (depending on trims). Despite its much heavier weight and “only” a four banger under the hood, it moves pretty damn well and at a faster pace than that larger and equal weight E Class.

     

    BTW, the Tesla Y is twelve inches longer than the Volvo so if we can’t compare the Volvo to the E Class, then you can’t compare it to the Y. 
     

    And as unpredictable as a Volvo can be, in the reliability department, Tesla’s (on average) are even worse. 
     

    Edit: While starting in 2021, a Volvo’s will be speed limited to 112, this is a 2020 model which is not. Still a pointless argument unless the Autobahn is your main route to work everyday. 

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    6 minutes ago, surreal1272 said:

    The CLA is as short compared to the V60 as the V60 is to the E Class and you totally missed the point of it any way. You were wrong on the speed limit (only took me thirty seconds to find the numbers posted above from another publication) and as William said, that limit doesn’t mean squat unless you live in Germany. The V60 weighs pretty much the same as an E Class wagon (depending on trims). Despite its much heavier weight and “only” a four banger under the hood, it moves pretty damn well and at a faster pace than that larger and equal weight E Class.

    The V90 is their E450 wagon competitor.  

    The V60 Polestar has good performance, but there are better performance/luxury cars for $69k.  

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    10 hours ago, smk4565 said:

    The V90 is their E450 wagon competitor.  

    The V60 Polestar has good performance, but there are better performance/luxury cars for $69k.  

    Name ONE current wagon, in its class and price range, thats better.

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    On 8/21/2020 at 1:03 PM, David said:

    I honestly have to say this looks good, but complicated from a power train standpoint.

    Questions:

    1. Is this just a less luxury version of the V90?

    It's a different size class.  The V90 is E-Class sized. The V60 is C-Class sized.  Though those are external measurements.  Both are roomier than their Benz counterparts.

    On 8/21/2020 at 5:09 PM, balthazar said:

    Prolly why I never see any.

    Or maybe it’s ‘notice’.

    It's probably "notice".  The XC90 is one of their best sellers.  I see a bunch of them around. The $100k ones are rare though, but aside from fancier wheel's there is nothing externally that differentiates them from the $60k ones.

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    On 8/22/2020 at 8:10 AM, smk4565 said:

    I’d gladly match up the CLA45’s performance against the V60 Polestar.  The CLA45 is 700 lbs lighter, that’s a lot less weight to haul around.  
     

    Also Volvo S60/V60 are sized and priced more like a C-class.  The problem with these Polestar Volvos, or any Volvo, is they don’t have better performance than an AMG or M or Tesla, don’t have a better interior than an Audi or Mercedes, aren’t priced better than a Genesis.   So the brand is kind of lost.

     

    And does this performance Volvo have a top speed of 112 mph because of safety restrictions?

     

    The Volvo interiors are definitely on-par with Benz or Audi when comparably equipped. The Volvo design is just different compared to the highly technical look of the Germans (particularly the Audi). I really love the minimalist design of the Volvo interiors and their seats are The. Best. In. Comfort. Periodt.

    In the earlier versions of this platform, the infotainment system could be a bit laggy and frustrating, but they've increased the processor and ram on them and they operate well now.

    Due to a quirk in the trade in market right now, we may trade the Encore in on an S90 fairly soon.  Carvana is offering $10k for it and for a 7 year old, 100k mile car with a few dings, I'm thinking I should take it.  Other dealerships are only offering $7,200.

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    22 hours ago, surreal1272 said:

    Well good thing its not FWD. It’s AWD and while you rag on the lack of cylinders, you skip the fact that it is over 400HP and pulls like a train and is faster off the line than the Benz E450 (with a price that is only slightly higher than the CLA45 AMG with its FOUR cylinders and less power). And where in the article does it mention a 112MPH limit (which doesn’t mean $h! anyway in the U.S. given that we have this little thing called “speed limits”)? Oh, thats right. It isn’t limited to 112. Here are the numbers from another source:


    TEST RESULTS
    Rollout, 1 ft: 0.3 sec
    60 mph: 4.4 sec
    100 mph: 10.9 sec
    130 mph: 21.7 sec
    Rolling start, 5–60 mph: 4.8 sec
    Top gear, 30–50 mph: 2.4 sec
    Top gear, 50–70 mph: 3.4 sec
    ¼-mile: 12.9 sec @ 107 mph
    Top speed (governor limited): 131 mph
    Braking, 70–0 mph: 152 ft
    Roadholding, 300-ft-dia skidpad: 0.96 g

     

     

     

    If you’re going to slam a non-Mercedes car, make sure you slam it with actual facts.

     

    16 hours ago, William Maley said:

    Some quick updates on the V60 Polestar after a few days

    • On 120V, a full charge takes between 8-10 hours. I don't know if the charger can handle a 240V outlet, going to bring in the owners manual to find out.
    • Able to squeeze out around 24 miles on just electric power alone
    • Handling is pretty decent with minimal body roll and quick steering. But you can tell there is a lot of weight because of the battery pack and electric motor
    • Volvo Sensus has been actually behaving unlike in the previous S60/V60 I drove earlier in the year. Boots up slightly faster and hasn't run into performance bottlenecks.

     

    I would say the G70 is better, mostly due to it being lighter than the V60 Polestar and having slightly better steering. 

    And yes, you can get the S60 in Polestar form.

    I don't believe so, but I can double check that shortly. I think that 112 mph limit is going to be on future models, and it is really non-issue unless you're driving on the Autobahn or arguing on a forum.

    For clarity Volvo brand will have the top speed limit, but anything Polestar will negate that. Polestars won't be governed. 

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      Genesis has come a long way since it was spun off to its own brand back in 2015. We have heaped praise on the G80 and G90 sedans, but it needs to be noted that these were badged as Hyundais before becoming Genesis models. The real test would be seeing how an original model stacked up. Our chance came in the fall when a 2020 Genesis G70 3.3T Sport was dropped off for a week. This new entrant into the compact sport luxury sedan appears on paper to have the goods, but how would fare in the real world?
      The Heart & Bones
      Power in this G70 is the optional twin-turbo 3.3L V6 engine providing 365 horsepower and 376 pound-feet of torque. This is mated with an eight-speed automatic which routes power to the rear wheels. All-wheel drive is an option. Having some experience with this engine in the Genesis G80 Sport and Kia Stinger GT, I knew this engine would pack quite the punch. Step on the accelerator and the V6 provides a massive wallop of power for any situation needed. The eight-speed automatic delivers rapid and smooth gear changes.
      Where the V6 falls apart is in fuel economy. EPA figures for the G70 3.3T RWD are 17 City/26 Highway/20 Combined. My average for the week landed at a disappointing 19.2 mpg. The standard turbocharged 2.0L four-cylinder is better at 22/25/30 with the automatic.
      Handling is where the G70 shines. My 3.3T Sport comes with a couple of extra goodies - an electronically controlled suspension and a set of Michelin Pilot Sport summer tires. On the test route I use to evaluate handling, the G70 felt nicely balanced and provides the driver a big grin when going into a corner. The steering provides the right amount of weight and feels needed for enthusiastic driving. 
      When it comes time to do the daily commute, the G70 surprises here. Turn the drive mode knob into either Comfort or Smart, and the suspension softens up to provide a mostly smooth ride. I do wish the Pilot Sports had a slightly taller sidewall as some bumps do make their way inside. Also, barely any outside noise comes inside.
      Outside In
      While it may share the same bones as the Kia Stinger, I find the G70 a little bit easier on the eyes. Some of this comes down to the G70 being shorter in overall length (about a foot), and wheelbase (around three inches). Details that will catch your eye are gloss black wheels which come as part of the Sport package; the large front grille, and slim headlights.
      The G70's interior is very well done. Genesis' designers were able to craft an interior that not only looks nice but is also very functional. Many of the materials used are some of the best in the class with leather, aluminum, and soft-touch plastics. I also appreciate that the center stack is angled slightly towards the driver, allowing for easier access to the various controls. Speaking of that, there are a fair number of them for the audio, climate control, and other systems - primarily made up of large knobs and buttons. It may lack the minimalist look many are trending towards, but the ease of use cannot be beaten.
      For those sitting up front, Genesis provides a set of supportive sport seats with adjustable bolsters. I found the seats to do an excellent job of holding you in place while driving aggressively, but also providing the support and comfort needed on long trips. The back seat is a different story as there is barely any head and legroom available. The limited legroom also makes entry and exit difficult.
      Another issue with the G70 is the infotainment system. It's the same eight-inch system you'll find in several Hyundai vehicles such as the Kona and Venue, not the one seen in the G80 and G90 sedans. While the system is very easy to use and snappy, it doesn't fit the luxury image that the G70 is portraying. The good news is that the G70 will get a new infotainment system more fitting of its image as part of a refresh for 2022.
      A Threat?
      For a first attempt at the highly competitive luxury sport sedan class, Genesis knocked it out of the park. The G70 provides a triple threat of excellent performance, sharp handling, and a design that stands out. But now comes the big challenge for Genesis; luring buyers from the old guard. If they can do that, then the G70 can lay its mark.
      Cheers:
      Potent Twin-Turbo V6
      Crisp Handling
      Premium Interior
      Jeers:
      Infotainment System Hampers Luxury Ideal
      Cramped Rear Seats
      Fuel Economy Trailing the Pack
      How I Would Order a G70: Basically I would order the vehicle seen here, but in blue. That brings the as-tested price to $51,245.
      Alternatives:
      Kia Stinger GT: The sister model to the G70, the Stinger is more daring in its design with a hatchback shape. This also makes it slightly more practical than the Genesis. Where the G70 clobbers it is in the interior as the Stinger lacks the design and quality of materials. Performance and handling is a dead heat. Alfa Romeo Giulia: The G70's closest competitor when it comes to driving fun. No matter which version you choose, the handling is sublime and the steering is slightly better. I also find the Giulia's looks to be towards the top of the class with an elegant shape. But being an Alfa Romeo, the Giulia's reliability is very questionable.  Disclaimer: Genesis Provided the G70, Insurance, and One Tank of Gas
      Year: 2020
      Make: Genesis
      Model: G70
      Trim: 3.3T Sport
      Engine: 3.3L Twin-Turbo GDI V6
      Driveline: Eight-Speed Automatic, Rear-Wheel Drive
      Horsepower @ RPM: 365 @ 6,000
      Torque @ RPM: 376 @ 1,300
      Fuel Economy: City/Highway/Combined - 17/26/20
      Curb Weight: 3,774 lbs
      Location of Manufacture: Ulsan, Korea
      Base Price: $44,650.00
      As Tested Price: $51,245.00 (Includes $995.00 Destination Charge)
      Options:
      Prestige Package: $2,850.00
      Elite Package: $1,450.00
      Sport Package: $1,300.00

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    • By William Maley
      Genesis has come a long way since it was spun off to its own brand back in 2015. We have heaped praise on the G80 and G90 sedans, but it needs to be noted that these were badged as Hyundais before becoming Genesis models. The real test would be seeing how an original model stacked up. Our chance came in the fall when a 2020 Genesis G70 3.3T Sport was dropped off for a week. This new entrant into the compact sport luxury sedan appears on paper to have the goods, but how would fare in the real world?
      The Heart & Bones
      Power in this G70 is the optional twin-turbo 3.3L V6 engine providing 365 horsepower and 376 pound-feet of torque. This is mated with an eight-speed automatic which routes power to the rear wheels. All-wheel drive is an option. Having some experience with this engine in the Genesis G80 Sport and Kia Stinger GT, I knew this engine would pack quite the punch. Step on the accelerator and the V6 provides a massive wallop of power for any situation needed. The eight-speed automatic delivers rapid and smooth gear changes.
      Where the V6 falls apart is in fuel economy. EPA figures for the G70 3.3T RWD are 17 City/26 Highway/20 Combined. My average for the week landed at a disappointing 19.2 mpg. The standard turbocharged 2.0L four-cylinder is better at 22/25/30 with the automatic.
      Handling is where the G70 shines. My 3.3T Sport comes with a couple of extra goodies - an electronically controlled suspension and a set of Michelin Pilot Sport summer tires. On the test route I use to evaluate handling, the G70 felt nicely balanced and provides the driver a big grin when going into a corner. The steering provides the right amount of weight and feels needed for enthusiastic driving. 
      When it comes time to do the daily commute, the G70 surprises here. Turn the drive mode knob into either Comfort or Smart, and the suspension softens up to provide a mostly smooth ride. I do wish the Pilot Sports had a slightly taller sidewall as some bumps do make their way inside. Also, barely any outside noise comes inside.
      Outside In
      While it may share the same bones as the Kia Stinger, I find the G70 a little bit easier on the eyes. Some of this comes down to the G70 being shorter in overall length (about a foot), and wheelbase (around three inches). Details that will catch your eye are gloss black wheels which come as part of the Sport package; the large front grille, and slim headlights.
      The G70's interior is very well done. Genesis' designers were able to craft an interior that not only looks nice but is also very functional. Many of the materials used are some of the best in the class with leather, aluminum, and soft-touch plastics. I also appreciate that the center stack is angled slightly towards the driver, allowing for easier access to the various controls. Speaking of that, there are a fair number of them for the audio, climate control, and other systems - primarily made up of large knobs and buttons. It may lack the minimalist look many are trending towards, but the ease of use cannot be beaten.
      For those sitting up front, Genesis provides a set of supportive sport seats with adjustable bolsters. I found the seats to do an excellent job of holding you in place while driving aggressively, but also providing the support and comfort needed on long trips. The back seat is a different story as there is barely any head and legroom available. The limited legroom also makes entry and exit difficult.
      Another issue with the G70 is the infotainment system. It's the same eight-inch system you'll find in several Hyundai vehicles such as the Kona and Venue, not the one seen in the G80 and G90 sedans. While the system is very easy to use and snappy, it doesn't fit the luxury image that the G70 is portraying. The good news is that the G70 will get a new infotainment system more fitting of its image as part of a refresh for 2022.
      A Threat?
      For a first attempt at the highly competitive luxury sport sedan class, Genesis knocked it out of the park. The G70 provides a triple threat of excellent performance, sharp handling, and a design that stands out. But now comes the big challenge for Genesis; luring buyers from the old guard. If they can do that, then the G70 can lay its mark.
      Cheers:
      Potent Twin-Turbo V6
      Crisp Handling
      Premium Interior
      Jeers:
      Infotainment System Hampers Luxury Ideal
      Cramped Rear Seats
      Fuel Economy Trailing the Pack
      How I Would Order a G70: Basically I would order the vehicle seen here, but in blue. That brings the as-tested price to $51,245.
      Alternatives:
      Kia Stinger GT: The sister model to the G70, the Stinger is more daring in its design with a hatchback shape. This also makes it slightly more practical than the Genesis. Where the G70 clobbers it is in the interior as the Stinger lacks the design and quality of materials. Performance and handling is a dead heat. Alfa Romeo Giulia: The G70's closest competitor when it comes to driving fun. No matter which version you choose, the handling is sublime and the steering is slightly better. I also find the Giulia's looks to be towards the top of the class with an elegant shape. But being an Alfa Romeo, the Giulia's reliability is very questionable.  Disclaimer: Genesis Provided the G70, Insurance, and One Tank of Gas
      Year: 2020
      Make: Genesis
      Model: G70
      Trim: 3.3T Sport
      Engine: 3.3L Twin-Turbo GDI V6
      Driveline: Eight-Speed Automatic, Rear-Wheel Drive
      Horsepower @ RPM: 365 @ 6,000
      Torque @ RPM: 376 @ 1,300
      Fuel Economy: City/Highway/Combined - 17/26/20
      Curb Weight: 3,774 lbs
      Location of Manufacture: Ulsan, Korea
      Base Price: $44,650.00
      As Tested Price: $51,245.00 (Includes $995.00 Destination Charge)
      Options:
      Prestige Package: $2,850.00
      Elite Package: $1,450.00
      Sport Package: $1,300.00
    • By William Maley
      Considering the number of Lexus RC coupes I have driven over the years, there has been a significant hole - the V8 RC F. Whenever I have asked for one, the vehicle either wasn't in the press fleet or someone else was driving it during the dates I had available. But I was able to finally get my hands on one for a week in early fall. It was good timing as I was feeling the effects of being home for the past six months due to COVID-19. Maybe this coupe could give me a bit of joy.
      The RC F is not a shrinking violet. From its bright yellow paint, blacked-out 20-inch wheels, and optional carbon fiber package that includes a retractable rear spoiler, this coupe is very brash and proud of it. I'll admit that I was worried about scraping or cracking the carbon fiber front splitter if I took a steep entrance ramp or bump a bit too aggressively. It looks cool on the car, but the existential dread of an expensive repair bill does sour the appeal.  Not much changes on the inside for the RC F except for carbon fiber trim and a set of racing-style seats. Usually, I have a lot of trepidation on this type of seat because I don't fully fit in due to my slightly wide shoulders. But the seats conformed to my body within a day or so and I found them to offer the balance of support during hard-driving, and comfort for day-to-day - something I find to be hit and miss on seats from other automakers. Lexus Enform is still a frustrating infotainment system to use on daily basis. With a touchy control pad, it is easy to find yourself changing the song or end up in a different section of the system. This means you need to pay close attention to any change being made, which becomes a distraction hazard. Apple CarPlay is standard and does make using the system a bit more bearable. But I do wish Lexus would roll out their touchscreen system which makes it much more intuitive. Though, that likely will not come until a redesign, possibly in the next year or two. The main event for the RC F is under the hood. A 5.0L V8 engine with 467 horsepower and 389 pound-feet of torque - figures that slightly pale when compared to the BMW M4 or Mercedes-AMG C63. This is paired with an eight-speed automatic which routes the power to the rear wheels. The initial acceleration is a slight disappointment as the throttle response feels a bit sleepy. I'm not sure if this was due to improve fuel economy or throttle feel higher in the rev band. Thankfully, this sleepiness goes away as the car climbs up in speed and the V8 reveals its party trick. The noise that comes out of this engine sounds like a muscle car and you find yourself stepping the accelerator to enjoy it. Not much to say about the eight-speed automatic. It goes about its business smoothly and quickly. Fuel economy was surprising in the least, as I got an average of 18 mpg in mostly city and suburb driving. A set of adaptive dampers comes standard for the RC-F and gives it a split personality. Turn the drive mode knob to Sport+ and the dampers tighten up to make the coupe feel more agile than its weight of 4,017 pounds would suggest. Also helping in the handling are a set of Michelin Pilot Sport 4S summer tires, providing tenacious grip. But switch the drive mode into normal and RC F becomes a very comfortable and refined grand tourer. Ride quality is very good with only a few bumps making their way inside. A minimal amount of road and wind noise is present. One area where the RC F holds a distinct advantage over the completion is the base price of $65,925 - undercutting most by a few grand. The danger is going through the option list and deciding to go crazy, which explains the as-tested price of $89,654. You can chop off over $11,000 by skipping the Performance package which brings all of the carbon fiber bits. The RC F lacks the outright performance as those from Germany. But I'm willing to overlook it because sometimes you want a car that just shouts to the world and the RC F does that very well. During my week, I found myself reveling in the engine and the grand touring characteristics of the suspension. It brought me the joy which sometimes is all you need a car to do. Disclaimer: Lexus Provided the RC F, Insurance, and One Tank of Gas
      Year: 2020
      Make: Lexus
      Model: RC F
      Trim: -
      Engine: 5.0L DOHC 32-Valve V8
      Driveline: Eight-Speed Automatic, Rear-Wheel Drive
      Horsepower @ RPM: 467 @ 7,100
      Torque @ RPM: 389 @ 4,800 - 5,600
      Fuel Economy: City/Highway/Combined - 16/24/19
      Curb Weight: 3,958 lbs
      Location of Manufacture: Tahara, Aichi, Japan
      Base Price: $64,900
      As Tested Price: $89,654 (Includes $1,025.00 Destination Charge)
      Options:
      Performance Package - $11,400.00
      Premium Package - $5,350.00
      Navigation System w/Mark Levinson Audio - $2,725.00
      Torque Vectoring Differential - $1,250.00
      Premium Triple Beam LED Headlamps - $1,160.00
      Flare Yellow Premium Paint - $595.00
      Intuitive Parking Assist - $500.00
      Illuminated Door Sills - $449.00
      Orange Metallic Brembo Brake Calipers - $300.00

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