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Poor Bonneville!

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I hate cladding as much as the next guy, but thats taking hatred a little too far.
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That's an SE which, for the record, had no cladding.
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I believe this takes "crumple zone" to a new level. :blink:
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Salvage companies come onto our lot to pick up total losses all the time. A few weeks ago, a late model Regal sedan came in hit the same way. Whatever it was that hit it had a bumper height just a bit higher than the car, hitting above the rear bumper impact bar, shaving everything off right up to the back seat. Still, we were impressed with the way the passenger compartment held true.
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I wonder if the whiplash would have been worse if the person that rammed them got their bumper, or just missed it.
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As far as whiplash, that guy was probably seriously killed to death. The 03-05 Boneville has "poor" head restraint geometry, even though they're "active," according to IIHS.
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I don't know what hit that Bonneville, but it must've been huge, like a cement truck or garbage truck or something. Like Ocn said, it would've had to have been tall enough to hit the car above where the bumper was.
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That's like those cars that are the first parked on the street after an intersection....those cars tend to get destroyed by those pricks trying to pass people way too fast on those morning and afternoon commutes. If I live on one of those streets, I'm parking in the back of my house or in my driveway, where my car belongs.
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ouch.. the latest inovation in saftey technology, a spring back bumper, as soon as something hits you, the bumper springs out towards the other car :lol: Anyone read info about the 06 civic? Apparently the hood and fender are designed to crumple easily to protect pedestrians... :lol:
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Its hard to tell, but the passenger cabin looks to be relatively intact given the severity and abnormal point of impact of the collision. No doubt, the G-body frame is very crush-resistant and incredibly strong, so strong in fact it not only exceeds FMVSS tolerences by almost two-fold, but that it broke GM's own testing equipment for passenger cars and forced them to continue testing with crushers designed for heavy-duty truck frames. And I won't exaggerate in saying the G-body's design probably saved my father's life during his accident. That's why I would happily recommend any of the fullsize G-bods because at the end of the day, shiny plastics and exposed screws don't mean jack.
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Anyone read info about the 06 civic?

Apparently the hood and fender are designed to crumple easily to protect pedestrians... :lol:

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Honda and the European marques are pandering to the new EU rule...soon come, the Americans will think it's a good idea and it will be legislated in. It's gonna lead to way too many cars getting damaged too easily. Also kinda sucks because not many U.S. spec ideas have made it onto cars around the world.
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Those silly EUROCAP standards wouldn't be necessary if people kept an open eye out for cars.
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They need to extend these standards to buses, semi trucks, trains, helicopter blades, etc. We must absolve the public of any adult responsibility! :rolleyes: <_<
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They need to extend these standards to buses, semi trucks, trains, helicopter blades, etc.  We must absolve the public of any adult responsibility! :rolleyes:  <_<

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You would simply be amazed at the number of people who come within inches of a helicopter tail rotor or airplane propeller...
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I hate to do this but hypothetically speakign I think a BOF car woud have hedl up better i this particular instance... am I wrong?
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I hate to do this but hypothetically speakign I think a BOF car woud have hedl up better i this particular instance... am I wrong?

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Good idea.

Let's see what happens when a modern BOF car gets rear-ended at high speeds by a large vehicle...
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Oh yeah. They explode.
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Now is that really fair? I'd say your example has more to do with fuel system safety than body construction. Further, if a BOF car is hit above the frame rail (the burned "car" in the photo was clearly hit at frame level, not above), it should theoretically crush pretty much the same as the Bonneville... the welds broke between frame rail and upper body on the Pontiac, the bolts would shear off on a BOF, I'd guess. Edited by ocnblu
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I hate to do this but hypothetically speakign I think a BOF car woud have hedl up better i this particular instance... am I wrong?



I doubt it...
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As far as whiplash, that guy was probably seriously killed to death. The 03-05 Boneville has "poor" head restraint geometry, even though they're "active," according to IIHS.

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killed!?!?!?! . . . to death!?!?!?! . . . . thats unthinkable :lol:
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Ouch! Though I have to agree..a neighbor got into a nasty smash (hit by three different cars) and was able to walk away from it..(after needing to be cut out) He swears by onr now, after his 00' was totaled, he got a GXP..
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Now is that really fair?  I'd say your example has more to do with fuel system safety than body construction.  Further, if a BOF car is hit above the frame rail (the burned "car" in the photo was clearly hit at frame level, not above), it should theoretically crush pretty much the same as the Bonneville... the welds broke between frame rail and upper body on the Pontiac, the bolts would shear off on a BOF, I'd guess.

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I was in an accident back in '94 when a Ford van rear-ended a stopped Town Car at about 45 mph (pushing the Lincoln into my Mustang, totalling both cars)...the Lincoln was hit so hard the body buckled at the B-pillar and folded the car up in the middle..there must have been a foot or more between the bent frame and the floorpan, and the middle of the frame was 3 feet off the ground (It was sitting on 3 wheels). My Mustang was hit above the rear bumper (taillight level) by the Lincoln, shoving the decklid through the rear window and the back tail panel almost to the back seat...(neither door would open, I crawled out through the drivers window..)

No one was injured, though the lady in the Lincoln and I both had some whiplash...
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Well, either the van hit the Lincoln at bumper level, or, if it hit above, my theory was wrong about the crush.
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Well, either the van hit the Lincoln at bumper level, or, if it hit above, my theory was wrong about the crush.



I think it hit it around bumper level and offset...the left side of the Lincoln was relatively unscathed, but the right side... almost as if the car folded up and in on itself...
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