ocnblu

Building a 128i

41 posts in this topic

Dreaming on the roundel: I just "built" a 128i at BMW's website, white with taupe leatherette... NO options. $29,375. A very appealing little coupe, but still about $5000 out of my comfort zone. Why, oh why doesn't an American manufacturer build a small, sporting, RWD 4 seater coupe for about $24,000? Dream on, ocn... dream on.
0

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

It's called the Mustang...to be followed by the Camaro and the Challenger.

Seriously, though...I really wonder what a modern BMWish version of a Malibu/Cutlass/Skylark/Torino/Cyclone/whatever could be.

High winding v-6, couple of different suspension choices, a slick paddle shift automatic or a 6 speed...built in Michigan and available down the street at your local dealer.

Chris

0

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Why, oh why doesn't an American manufacturer build a small, sporting, RWD 4 seater coupe for about $24,000? Dream on, ocn... dream on.

Cause they sell like snowblowers in Texas. The C230 coupe was $25,800 sticker.

0

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

The GTI, C30, and Clubman S are as close as you can get. Well-equipped, safe, comfortable, fuel-efficient, and usable everyday, yet they go like stink, handle well, and look great.

If only Ford could send the Focus ST over here, then I think you'll find the perfect car that meets your criteria. It's a working class hero against the pricey Generation Golf Euros. Escort RS Cosworth, FTW!

0

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
The GTI, C30, and Clubman S are as close as you can get. Well-equipped, safe, comfortable, fuel-efficient, and usable everyday, yet they go like stink, handle well, and look great.

Yep, only criteria they dont meet is RWD, and frankly I doubt you'll notice it when you get behind the wheel.

Edit: price on the Volvo and Mini get up there, but frankly prices on everything are getting high, ten years ago you could get a Mustang GT for about $20k.

Edited by Satty
0

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
The GTI, C30, and Clubman S are as close as you can get. Well-equipped, safe, comfortable, fuel-efficient, and usable everyday, yet they go like stink, handle well, and look great.

If only Ford could send the Focus ST over here, then I think you'll find the perfect car that meets your criteria. It's a working class hero against the pricey Generation Golf Euros. Escort RS Cosworth, FTW!

Sorry Empowah, I feel like being a jackass.

Why, oh why doesn't an American manufacturer build a small, sporting, RWD 4 seater coupe for about $24,000? Dream on, ocn... dream on.
0

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Well of course you can feel the difference between FWD and RWD through the steering.

The Mustang is out there and it is truly authentic, but doesn't feel right with the V6. A V8 Mustang will eat too much gas and be too expensive for my criteria.

The Mini, GTI and C30 are all well and good and I like them, but this thread is extolling the virtues of an upright, RWD 4 seat coupe with sporting credentials... something I hope to see from GM on the Alpha platform with a Pontiac nameplate... but indications so far are that the Alpha cars will go to Cadillac and Chevrolet, the latter in sedan form only (why on earth... who knows?)

0

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

A fully decked out 135i costs $50,740. :nono:

It seems like BMW is tacitly adapting America to European Flavor. Size of car does not matter, what matters are the comforts. Which is fine. Then BMW should reduce the price of the cars by $10k.

0

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
A fully decked out 135i costs $50,740. :nono:

It seems like BMW is tacitly adapting America to European Flavor. Size of car does not matter, what matters are the comforts. Which is fine. Then BMW should reduce the price of the cars by $10k.

BMW has long had lengthy, pricey option lists...same with the 3 and 5 series..there's a huge price difference between a base model and a fully loaded one.

0

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Well of course you can feel the difference between FWD and RWD through the steering.

The Mustang is out there and it is truly authentic, but doesn't feel right with the V6. A V8 Mustang will eat too much gas and be too expensive for my criteria.

The Mini, GTI and C30 are all well and good and I like them, but this thread is extolling the virtues of an upright, RWD 4 seat coupe with sporting credentials... something I hope to see from GM on the Alpha platform with a Pontiac nameplate... but indications so far are that the Alpha cars will go to Cadillac and Chevrolet, the latter in sedan form only (why on earth... who knows?)

So contact GM and make yourself heard. You know my solutions, I hope.

0

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
BMW has long had lengthy, pricey option lists...same with the 3 and 5 series..there's a huge price difference between a base model and a fully loaded one.

Yeah. But with the current models the list has even become longer...........

So contact GM and make yourself heard. You know my solutions, I hope.

I asked about it to Troy Clarke when Fly and I met him at the Miami Autoshow. He said that expect something from GM soon, unless Euro-Gang killed the Alpha from that time to now.

0

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Why, oh why doesn't an American manufacturer build a small, sporting, RWD 4 seater coupe for about $24,000? Dream on, ocn... dream on.

:withstupid:

I've been looking at used E36 3-Series BMWs lately, just for the hell of it. Maybe a little bit smaller than I would like, and probably a little more, well, used than I would like, but you can't really argue with a rear-drive, six-cylinder, five-speed manual coupe for less than five-grand. This car is a prime candidate on my shopping list (as well as two others), if I can't afford a new Camaro.

0

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
:withstupid:

I've been looking at used E36 3-Series BMWs lately, just for the hell of it. Maybe a little bit smaller than I would like, and probably a little more, well, used than I would like, but you can't really argue with a rear-drive, six-cylinder, five-speed manual coupe for less than five-grand. This car is a prime candidate on my shopping list (as well as two others), if I can't afford a new Camaro.

They make great used car buys, IMHO...I really enjoyed my '96 M3...(bought it used in '98). Compact and light, very balanced cars.

Edited by moltar
0

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

You're preaching to the choir.... I'd even take an ecotech powered RWD coupeif it was like $22K.

We need a 21st century version of the '61 Tempest or in more modern terms, a 4-cyl Fox-body.

0

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
A fully decked out 135i costs $50,740. :nono:

It seems like BMW is tacitly adapting America to European Flavor. Size of car does not matter, what matters are the comforts. Which is fine. Then BMW should reduce the price of the cars by $10k.

????

I get $48,995 adding everything on the list......but that includes a ton of stuff I wouldn't include such as an auto, active steering, park distance control, etc......

My perfect 135i has an MSRP of $38,900:

Jet Black ($0 non-metallic)

Black leatherette/Gray Poplar Wood Trim

6-speed manual ($0)

Sport Package

Comfort Access System

Heated Seats

HD Radio

Premium Audio System

Other than not having leather, this is a pretty loaded car. Standard items included are things such as Xenons, 8-way seats (manual), power sunroof, auto wipers and headlights, 18-inch wheels/tires (on sport package.)

0

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Oh....you added accessories. I just stuck with factory options.

I have to laugh at the $81 set of floormats..what nonsense. And $400 for an iPod and USB adapter? Should be standard. BMW certainly knows how to stick it to people w/ the options.

0

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

The 1-Series looked like what it is at the auto show: a subcompact car. It doesn't look very good in person. Looks scrunched, poor proportions. It may look better than many cars it's size, but it costs 3-4 times more than most cars its size, so it better look better. Still, for the ~$5k difference to a 3er, I'd pay an extra ~$5k for sure.

0

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

BMW knows they can stick it to the people shopping for these. fine by me. you wanna pour money down the drain, ok with me.

0

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
On the other hand, the car is extremely well-equipped with no options.
0

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
On the other hand, the car is extremely well-equipped with no options.

True, if you can live without two boombox subwoofer, leather, and other crap like homelink etc.

0

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
I have to laugh at the $81 set of floormats..what nonsense. And $400 for an iPod and USB adapter? Should be standard. BMW certainly knows how to stick it to people w/ the options.

Well you have to look at reality......I worked for a BMW store for a time and so did my ex.....in 99% of the cases, the dealer throws in things like floor mats for free. That's pretty typical of BMW stores in this area. The $81 for floormats is more often gained by people going into the parts department and ordering a new set or something like that....

0

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
True, if you can live without two boombox subwoofer, leather, and other crap like homelink etc.

Premium audio is a pretty inexpensive option on this car (and the 3-series.) And while I would still prefer leather, BMW's leatherette is so good, it's almost worth saving the money. And you can stay with leatherette....but still get the sport seats included in the sport package. All 1- and 3-series come with things like a sunroof, all power accessories, multi-adjustable seats (manual though) and stuff.

BMW's basic option prices aren't really all that out-of-whack (witness the cost of floormats for an AURA) it's the basic price of the car that hits you. That and IF you choose to add pricey options such as active steering, active cruise, or navigation.

0

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Create an account or sign in to comment

You need to be a member in order to leave a comment

Create an account

Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!


Register a new account

Sign in

Already have an account? Sign in here.


Sign In Now