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In New York Scientists are are having a cobference on those who belive it is FALSE.

The scientist said the South Pole is the biggest its been in a long time the North pole the last two years has been growing.

Glenn Beck is covering this on his TV show it would be good to watch it.

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In New York Scientists are are having a cobference on those who belive it is FALSE.

The scientist said the South Pole is the biggest its been in a long time the North pole the last two years has been growing.

Glenn Beck is covering this on his TV show it would be good to watch it.

I wonder if these are legit 'scientists' or just some right-wing nutjobs..

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I wonder if these are legit 'scientists' or just some right-wing nutjobs..

Right wing nutjobs

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Sometimes I wonder the same thing about those 'scientists' that believe it is TRUE.

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Sometimes I wonder the same thing about those 'scientists' that believe it is TRUE.

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If there isn't legit discussion about it, it's basically hysteria, which is how much of the media talks about it.

the guy that made the weather channel doesn't believe in it.

the Penn and teller's BS on global warming shows the extremes that some people will do for something they evidently know very little about....Sheeple

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Right wing nutjobs

Naturally... :rolleyes:

I mean, god forbid we "right wing nutjobs" have a different opinion about a theory as opposed to believing everything we hear.

I can't wait until the liberals hype the world into such a global warming hysteria that us right wing nut jobs can justify not only another war for oil, but war within the states against ourselves *GASP!* for the sake of our survival!!!

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Also he had on the President of Check Republic just relected by the way he is an economist he said Climatology is about the study of people and how to control them all this goes back to is the days when they said the earth was overpopulated.

Global warming is just to take the freedoms away and to limit developing countries he said this also.

The Scientist he had on one was from the Smithsonian and both had their doctorates very legit scientist.

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Naturally... :rolleyes:

Yadda, yadda, tadda....

My my, someone is being presumptuous. If he had asked "Scientists or left wing nutjobs?" about an Al Gore-led coalition, I would have replied "left wing nutjobs." Have you ever listened to the group that this thread is about? They really are right wing nutjobs and shouldn't be taken seriously as an environmental group, much the same way people shouldn't go to the E.L.F. for data and opinions on the other side.

I dont see how anyone can believe that global warming isn't at least somewhat caused by man. Do cars pollute? Yep, and they're man made. Do factories pollute? Yep, and they're man made. Do cow and other livestock let off a ton of methane? Yep, and increased demand for beef has led man to breed a lot of cattle.

Just the last couple of years have had some extremely odd weather patterns. Hell, in the past 5 days here we've had 80 degree weather and 5 inches of snow. Something tells me weather patterns were far more stable before humans came around and started polluting.

And the next civil war is probably going to be started by the south (naturally :rolleyes: ) trying to keep the people living in the north who have been covered in a sheet of ice from moving down. :stupid::rolleyes: :rolleyes:

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In New York Scientists are are having a cobference on those who belive it is FALSE.

The scientist said the South Pole is the biggest its been in a long time the North pole the last two years has been growing.

Glenn Beck is covering this on his TV show it would be good to watch it.

uh... no.

The north west passage opened up this summer for the first time in recorded history.

Yes, the Antarctic ice sheet is growing in height in the central region, but making just that one point is very misleading and quite dishonest.

There is an enormous amount of research that has been conducted on the poles and there is much more to the story than just the increase in snow in the middle of the continent. Indeed the coast is where the real action is.

The leading U.S. climate scientist Dr. James Hansen responded via email saying "The most precise data on the mass of the ice sheets, from the gravity satellite, show that, overall, Antarctica is losing mass, as is Greenland, even though East Antarctica is gaining a small amount of mass."

Also, it sits on a continent rather than on water that is above freezing - as in the north. The ice in the north is an average of 6 to 12 feet thick and is being warmed from beneath as well as above. This has a much larger impact on the North Polar Ice Cap.
It would seem that the north and south poles should react the same, but because of these gigantic differences they cannot. Antarctica is not the canary in the mine..........the canary is the Arctic, and it's telling the scientists that things are changing faster than they had thought possible.
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Naturally... :rolleyes:

I mean, god forbid we "right wing nutjobs" have a different opinion about a theory as opposed to believing everything we hear.

I can't wait until the liberals hype the world into such a global warming hysteria that us right wing nut jobs can justify not only another war for oil, but war within the states against ourselves *GASP!* for the sake of our survival!!!

having a different opinion about a theory is one thing if they have honest and irrefutable evidence to support their argument. Disagreeing with a theory in the face of supporting evidence and without evidence to back up your argument = nutjob.

Also, if you believe that Exxon hasn't hired "Scientists" to go out and "disprove" global warming, I have some beach front property here in Pittsburgh to sell you.

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My my, someone is being presumptuous. If he had asked "Scientists or left wing nutjobs?" about an Al Gore-led coalition, I would have replied "left wing nutjobs." Have you ever listened to the group that this thread is about? They really are right wing nutjobs and shouldn't be taken seriously as an environmental group, much the same way people shouldn't go to the E.L.F. for data and opinions on the other side.

I dont see how anyone can believe that global warming isn't at least somewhat caused by man. Do cars pollute? Yep, and they're man made. Do factories pollute? Yep, and they're man made. Do cow and other livestock let off a ton of methane? Yep, and increased demand for beef has led man to breed a lot of cattle.

Just the last couple of years have had some extremely odd weather patterns. Hell, in the past 5 days here we've had 80 degree weather and 5 inches of snow. Something tells me weather patterns were far more stable before humans came around and started polluting.

And the next civil war is probably going to be started by the south (naturally :rolleyes: ) trying to keep the people living in the north who have been covered in a sheet of ice from moving down. :stupid::rolleyes: :rolleyes:

I can agree with the 2nd paragraph after the first sentence. but you're forgetting that there was alternative fuels that Ford was pushing....now gasoline is subsidized heavily, that's always a boon to make more/not look for alternatives.... farming ( raising food supply with the use of land, including livestock )..anything is practically subsidized, even not farming sometimes is subsidized, making those "products" lower priced thus increasing demand in the market place. Subsidies are a "leftist" policy, akin to socialism. global warming hysteria is about telling people what you can and can't do. If CO2 is pollution then can't fires be regulated. you better not exersize too much, you'll produce to much CO2 from all your aerobic workings.

Global warming is causing to address the symptoms, not the root cause (if it's true).

But, conversly, there are "right wing nut jobs" that think that being irresponsible with the land (from any other veiwpoint) is ok. it's not.

T Roosevelt is a great example of a lost part of "the right", setting up nation parks. that idea is socialist too, but very inline with conservation. with out getting it into the nation system "public property" and other peoples private property should be able to have the most stringent pollution laws as the people "holding the land" see fit.

what do you think about these statements?

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having a different opinion about a theory is one thing if they have honest and irrefutable evidence to support their argument. Disagreeing with a theory in the face of supporting evidence and without evidence to back up your argument = nutjob.

Also, if you believe that Exxon hasn't hired "Scientists" to go out and "disprove" global warming, I have some beach front property here in Pittsburgh to sell you.

if they are scientists, they're supposed to be ethical about their work, they wouldn't be good scientists if they just made up stuff to make sure the product was what the "people" hired them wanted it to be.

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if they are scientists, they're supposed to be ethical about their work, they wouldn't be good scientists if they just made up stuff to make sure the product was what the "people" hired them wanted it to be.

there have never been unethical scientists?

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i hear the founder of the weather channel wants to sue al gore for defrauding the public or something.

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The north west passage opened up this summer for the first time in recorded history.

The began keeping records of this in the 70s... not much of a recorded history. Prior to the Little Ice Age it was believed that a navigable route existed.

Five_Myr_Climate_Change.png

as you can see, dramatic climate changes in the past few million years are quite common.

although what i want to know is who invested all this time looking at soil samples to get this data?

Now im not saying that Humans play no part in this. I am quite sure that we can help exacerbate/retard trends... but just that... trends. So the Trillion dollar question is, is what humans can contribute to changing climates worth the huge expense of doing so? is a few trillion dollars worth a few tenths of a degree when its obvious that these crazy patterns have existed for at least a million years?

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Isn't the world 4.5 billion years old? So this time scale is just a drop in the bucket.

yes but the early half of the world was very very very very hot with tons of CO2 due to large amounts of volcanic activity. An environment which is not very similar to todays Earth.

Unfortunately, due to the earth recycling itself, we cant get soil/rock samples from the very beginning of the Earth.

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there have never been unethical scientists?

yeah....... but lots of them are employed by unethical "powers" look at the nazis for a totally clear example

i hear the founder of the weather channel wants to sue al gore for defrauding the public or something.

yeah. carbon credits.... it's pretty damn fraud like.

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You know, i got to thinking, since it looks like were hitting our "Peak" temperatures given my previously posted image, that means that within the next few thousands years or so we will start sinking into another cold period... which is, of course, far worse for humans and most other life forms than a warm climate...

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You know, i got to thinking, since it looks like were hitting our "Peak" temperatures given my previously posted image, that means that within the next few thousands years or so we will start sinking into another cold period... which is, of course, far worse for humans and most other life forms than a warm climate...

assuming the previous trends continue.

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yeah....... but lots of them are employed by unethical "powers" look at the nazis for a totally clear example

yeah. carbon credits.... it's pretty damn fraud like.

two words; Bush Administration .

two more words;

Exxon Mobil

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Liberal Fascism by Jonah Goldberg

Go get a copy good reading it lays the groundwork to todays liberal/progressive tells you where they are coming from because you understand history.

Thw word " Progressive " where does it come from ; it comes from when our soldiers were captured in the Vietnam war and the ones who cooperated were called Progressive then it came over here and well thats not a good monicker to carry.

Global Warming is just another movement by the people who said there were to many people in the world and were pushing population control like they know best how to govern people than the actual persons do.

RTR stillen

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