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HYUNDAI AZERA

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I think a gent who takes his kid to the same D/C I do works for Hyundai. He's always showing up with some Hyundai and special mfr. plates. Well, the other day he had a brand new Azera. In the limited bit of time I got to scope it out, here's what I thought.

exterior-uninspiring. A very droopy, melted butter look and the rear fender flares seemed contrived, IMHO. Nothing about the face or tail was particularly standout. The overal shape was lacking of any sort of eyecatching ways. As a blandmobile, its not anything great either.

interior-appeared to be spacious. The seats themselves looked to be of high quality leather and nice to look at and sit in. Of course, they look like Catera knock offs. The dash and door panels had the same knockoff/cheesy look to them that many Korean/Asian products have. You know, the 'something about it is not quite right / great for BIG LOTS' kind of look. You can tell they are trying, but its not near as nice as MOTOR TREND or some other of the 'experts' have said. Its like its already dated, by about 5-7 years.

overall

B-

you can tell they are trying, but they just aren't there. Even with good runniing gear and great price this car lacks big time in the style and cache department. And if you're gonna try to compete in the upper price ranges, style is a neccessity.

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I'd give the Azera a C+/B- as well for more or less the reason you've already listed. As I've said in the past, too much Korean-ness to the interior.

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Their commercials say it's more spacious than a BMW 760i. Pretty impressive in that regard...but seriously? Hyundai comparing themselves to BMW? Seriously?

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Their commercials say it's more spacious than a BMW 760i.  Pretty impressive in that regard...but seriously?  Hyundai comparing themselves to BMW?  Seriously?

Not if they're using EPA interior passenger volume ratings which they most certainly are. A 1995 Buick LeSabre is 'more spacious' than a 760i, 760Li, Audi A8 L, and a Vanden Plas L.

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wait, i meant Li.  I just saw the commercial again, and it said 760Li.

No, they definitely say "i". I've double-checked this before.

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Their commercials say it's more spacious than a BMW 760i.  Pretty impressive in that regard...but seriously?  Hyundai comparing themselves to BMW?  Seriously?

visually, at least in the back seat it seemed to have more room than the Impala, but then, that ain't sayin much either.

If folks want a luxury car, get a luxury car....not a faux (Korean) knockoff.

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wait, i meant Li.  I just saw the commercial again, and it said 760Li.

Variance is right. Check out the government website, too. If Hyundai claims greater volume than the 760Li, its a 'Li'.

And, yes, Brewswillis, I saw the same. Like a reshapeed LaCrosse with a goofier front end.

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you guys continue to bash the Koreans, yet they are making ground and squeezing GM at the bottom end. I wouldn't be so quick to criticize to make yourselves feel better. it's not like the Malibu, G6, LaCrosse, Impala, Cobalt are setting any styling benchmarks.

the fact remains that Hyundai does not make the $h! product that they used to. they have some pretty decent quality these days. factor in a pricing model that gives you a lot more features for the $$$ and a stellar warranty and you've got a very compelling story for a segment of the market.

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you guys continue to bash the Koreans, yet they are making ground and squeezing GM at the bottom end. I wouldn't be so quick to criticize to make yourselves feel better.  it's not like the Malibu, G6, LaCrosse, Impala, Cobalt are setting any styling benchmarks.

the fact remains that Hyundai does not make the $h! product that they used to. they have some pretty decent quality these days.  factor in a pricing model that gives you a lot more features for the $$$ and a stellar warranty and you've got a very compelling story for a segment of the market.

I agree with you 100%, but argue all you want, there are members on this board who wear blind-folds when it comes to anything non-American.

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you guys continue to bash the Koreans, yet they are making ground and squeezing GM at the bottom end. I wouldn't be so quick to criticize to make yourselves feel better. it's not like the Malibu, G6, LaCrosse, Impala, Cobalt are setting any styling benchmarks.

Yes but GM for the most part does not blatantly copy other cars. Pick any Korean model and it will look incredibly similar to an equivalent domestic or japanese car.

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you guys continue to bash the Koreans, yet they are making ground and squeezing GM at the bottom end. I wouldn't be so quick to criticize to make yourselves feel better.  it's not like the Malibu, G6, LaCrosse, Impala, Cobalt are setting any styling benchmarks.

the fact remains that Hyundai does not make the $h! product that they used to. they have some pretty decent quality these days.  factor in a pricing model that gives you a lot more features for the $$$ and a stellar warranty and you've got a very compelling story for a segment of the market.

I'll take the Azera's interior ANY DAY over the Lucerne's interior (although I'll keep the Lucerne's exterior styling.)

I'll ALSO take the Azera's powertrain over the V6 Lucerne's.....

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Yes but GM for the most part does not blatantly copy other cars.  Pick any Korean model and it will look incredibly similar to an equivalent domestic or japanese car.

so what? there is only so much you can do with a std 3 box design.

(like the new Mustang is a rip-off of the old one... but is that ok, because they are copying themselves?)

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so what?  there is only so much you can do with a std 3 box design.

(like the new Mustang is a rip-off of the old one... but is that ok, because they are copying themselves?)

Copying other cars makes the car look cheap. Look at the Kia Amanti...tried to copy several different car manufacturers and it just ended up looking cheap.

This is completely different from copying an old design of your own. Sure it still shows no design creativity..but at least you are copying yourself.

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It looks a hell of a lot better than the current Avalon or Camry. In fact an older gentleman that had a 2005 Avalon was checking out the new Azera at a local Hyndi dealer and remarked how it looked more expensive than his car and how it had more nice chrome trim on the outside, and a better looking interior, something his car lacked.

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It looks a hell of a lot better than the current Avalon or Camry. In fact an older gentleman that had a 2005 Avalon was checking out the new Azera at a local Hyndi dealer and remarked how it looked more expensive than his car and how it had more nice chrome trim on the outside, and a better looking interior, something his car lacked.

HA. Can you say anything positive about Toyota? Second thread in a row here...

The older gentleman probably forgot his glasses anyway.

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you guys continue to bash the Koreans, yet they are making ground and squeezing GM at the bottom end. I wouldn't be so quick to criticize to make yourselves feel better.  it's not like the Malibu, G6, LaCrosse, Impala, Cobalt are setting any styling benchmarks.

the fact remains that Hyundai does not make the $h! product that they used to. they have some pretty decent quality these days.  factor in a pricing model that gives you a lot more features for the $$$ and a stellar warranty and you've got a very compelling story for a segment of the market.

While I agree with what you are saying, I do have to make a couple of comments. First off, I owned an Exel in the late eighties whose engine blew up at a little over 100,000 miles(not unlike our Corall that just blew up short of 200,000 though we will drop a new engine into it). So I still have a bad taste in my mouth from that experience. On the other hand I saw an Azera from the rear three quarters and I liked what I saw. Would I buy one, probably not. Personally, I think the Pontiac G6 is a good looking car and if I was in the market for a small sedan it would be on my list. The G6 however is a disappointment when compared to the show car I think should have been built instead. The Azera will be a threat both to the domestics and to Japan.

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Yeah, I'm going into the amrket for a new car in about a month or so and I'm really liking the Azera. There is now a 60% chance I'll take that over the other cars I've been looking at.

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Well, I like the Azera. It looks a hell of alot better than the Lacrosse, Lucerne, and Avalon. Those three range from Taurus knock-off, bland multi-car knock-off, and frumpy, but bland, yet weird. The Azera is the only one that looks elegant and stylish, IMO. The rest... you couldn't pay me to own. I'm not a fan of any of their interiors, though... They all suck, design-wise, if you ask me. The Lucerne, however, also sucks material wise. I mean... the Lacrosse has better plastics...

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I thought the Azera was a fairly decent vehicle. It's no Lexus, but the interior is not a bad place to be, and not a vehicle that you would point and laugh at, like the Amanti.

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