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"Fusion In Fancy Duds:" C/D Tests '15 Lincoln MKZ Hybrid Black Label

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"Yep, 55 grand. Why lead this review with a price breakdown? Because it underscores the point we’ve made about the MKZ all along, which is that it doesn’t offer a whole lot more than the Ford Fusion with which it shared its mechanicals—all but one of the powertrains and even the infotainment setups are identical—yet it is far more expensive. Indeed, this particular MKZ is nearly as expensive as possible, which makes its shortcomings stand out even more."

"Particularly egregious is something endemic to all MKZ hybrids, regardless of price: the sound of the Atkinson-cycle 2.0-liter four-cylinder/CVT combo, which drones miserably under acceleration... we averaged a ho-hum-for-a-hybrid 31 mpg, nowhere near the EPA’s 40-mpg combined rating, which was itself revised downward from the overly optimistic 45 mpg stated when the car was introduced for 2013."

"The Black Label’s material upgrades, which include a black microsuede headliner, leather-topped dash and door panels, and black-stained wood, are worthy of a Mercedes-Benz. But in our car those niceties contrasted starkly with ill-fitting dash-to-door junctions, a warped rubber liner in the lower center console, and grainy hard plastics behind the headrests and in the cup holders."

With the exception of some kind words for the styling, they were pretty harsh on it. Read more at

http://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/2015-lincoln-mkz-hybrid-review

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I do like the MKZ's looks, definitely distinctive and not chasing the Germans there, but I would only own one with the V6.  none of this EcoBust or Hybrid crapola.

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Why bother as the car is bland jelly bean style and nothing special to look at from Exterior or interior style. This is a overpriced DOA auto for me.

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I think it looks pretty dang sharp. I'd perfer a different color for sure though.

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The way to get an MKZ is to keep the options under control. Skip the ridiculous panoramic sliding glass roof thing and premium packages. You can get a decent 3.7L V6 AWD model with full leather interior for $41k before looking at any incentives.

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The way to get an MKZ is to keep the options under control. Skip the ridiculous panoramic sliding glass roof thing and premium packages. You can get a decent 3.7L V6 AWD model with full leather interior for $41k before looking at any incentives.

This is a Black Label though.. I think they are pretty much loaded to the gills already.

 

Plus, with this being a Black Label there are other benefits that go well beyond the vehicle price itself.

http://www.lincoln.com/blacklabel/memberprivileges/

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The way to get an MKZ is to keep the options under control. Skip the ridiculous panoramic sliding glass roof thing and premium packages. You can get a decent 3.7L V6 AWD model with full leather interior for $41k before looking at any incentives.

This is a Black Label though.. I think they are pretty much loaded to the gills already.

 

Plus, with this being a Black Label there are other benefits that go well beyond the vehicle price itself.

http://www.lincoln.com/blacklabel/memberprivileges/

 

Beyond $50k, I'm not remotely interested in this car unless they put the 2.7EB under the hood.

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The way to get an MKZ is to keep the options under control. Skip the ridiculous panoramic sliding glass roof thing and premium packages. You can get a decent 3.7L V6 AWD model with full leather interior for $41k before looking at any incentives.

This is a Black Label though.. I think they are pretty much loaded to the gills already.

 

Plus, with this being a Black Label there are other benefits that go well beyond the vehicle price itself.

http://www.lincoln.com/blacklabel/memberprivileges/

 

Beyond $50k, I'm not remotely interested in this car unless they put the 2.7EB under the hood.

 

I won't disagree there.. It isn't worth 50k. I was just say'n.

 

Definitely peak a little interest if they threw the 2.7 in it.

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I think it's a stunning car, and despite its underpinnings; it's a damn good looking car, definitely one to lick; and a much better alternative to grotesque CLAs and A3s.

 

To me, it's exterior has the looks and presence of a car of a much higher prestige level. 

 

However, for the price, the Black Label interior should be standard, and the Black Label line itself should just be a Lincoln branded but dealer administered convenience, concierge and maintenance package.

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$55,000, when I can get a more stately looking Lacrosse for less, or actually not mind spending about $10K more and get a BALLZ OUT CTS? What world is Ford living in?


And are the fuel economy gains even worth this BS:

 

Zero to 60 mph: 9.4 sec
Zero to 100 mph: 25.3 sec


and again my Impala interior looks more lively

 

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I think it's a stunning car, and despite its underpinnings; it's a damn good looking car, definitely one to lick; and a much better alternative to grotesque CLAs and A3s.

 

To me, it's exterior has the looks and presence of a car of a much higher prestige level. 

 

However, for the price, the Black Label interior should be standard, and the Black Label line itself should just be a Lincoln branded but dealer administered convenience, concierge and maintenance package.

The interior is standard at that price.. A Black Label MKZ starts at $45,605. That ugly paint job in the article is a $1700 option..no thanks. The hybrid is the same price as the base 2.0T. They must have had their loaded with all of the mud flaps and cargo nets to hit 55k with the hybrid/base engine.

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I think it's a stunning car, and despite its underpinnings; it's a damn good looking car, definitely one to lick; and a much better alternative to grotesque CLAs and A3s.

 

To me, it's exterior has the looks and presence of a car of a much higher prestige level. 

 

However, for the price, the Black Label interior should be standard, and the Black Label line itself should just be a Lincoln branded but dealer administered convenience, concierge and maintenance package.

The interior is standard at that price.. A Black Label MKZ starts at $45,605. That ugly paint job in the article is a $1700 option..no thanks. The hybrid is the same price as the base 2.0T. They must have had their loaded with all of the mud flaps and cargo nets to hit 55k with the hybrid/base engine.

 

 

 

I think it's a stunning car, and despite its underpinnings; it's a damn good looking car, definitely one to lick; and a much better alternative to grotesque CLAs and A3s.

 

To me, it's exterior has the looks and presence of a car of a much higher prestige level. 

 

However, for the price, the Black Label interior should be standard, and the Black Label line itself should just be a Lincoln branded but dealer administered convenience, concierge and maintenance package.

The interior is standard at that price.. A Black Label MKZ starts at $45,605. That ugly paint job in the article is a $1700 option..no thanks. The hybrid is the same price as the base 2.0T. They must have had their loaded with all of the mud flaps and cargo nets to hit 55k with the hybrid/base engine.

 

 

Ccap to clarify I meant that a Black Label interior should be standard equipment on every MKZ. The current base interior is not significant enough jump from a Fusion for the base price of the MKZ at 36K.

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I think it's a stunning car, and despite its underpinnings; it's a damn good looking car, definitely one to lick; and a much better alternative to grotesque CLAs and A3s.

 

To me, it's exterior has the looks and presence of a car of a much higher prestige level. 

 

However, for the price, the Black Label interior should be standard, and the Black Label line itself should just be a Lincoln branded but dealer administered convenience, concierge and maintenance package.

The interior is standard at that price.. A Black Label MKZ starts at $45,605. That ugly paint job in the article is a $1700 option..no thanks. The hybrid is the same price as the base 2.0T. They must have had their loaded with all of the mud flaps and cargo nets to hit 55k with the hybrid/base engine.

 

 

Ccap to clarify I meant that a Black Label interior should be standard equipment on every MKZ. The current base interior is not significant enough jump from a Fusion for the base price of the MKZ at 36K.

 

I gotcha I gotcha, understandable.

 

I didn't realize the MKZ started so reasonable at 36k.. Granted you probably can't find one for under 40k..but still.

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Hey... honestly, as much as this car fails to deliver on performance metrics, I used to drive within the city, and I'm not that much of a pedal masher to begin with.

 

The styling is simply sexifull to me - and for that reason alone I'd get a well- equipped model.

 

Way better than stupid CLAs and A3s especially when you consider some good incentives.

 

This and the CTS actually mentioned by Casa are my top American sedans right now. And hear this - it's because both look sexifull - not because either are or should be high performance sport executive sedans. BOOM!!

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I can agree with that. I think a few of the Lincolns look really really sharp, same with Cadillacs. I totaly dig the "arts and science" thing.

 

As for comparing to the CLA and A3, aren't those two smaller than the MKZ? Or are they larger than I'm thinking..?

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I can agree with that. I think a few of the Lincolns look really really sharp, same with Cadillacs. I totaly dig the "arts and science" thing.

 

As for comparing to the CLA and A3, aren't those two smaller than the MKZ? Or are they larger than I'm thinking..?

 

I can agree with that. I think a few of the Lincolns look really really sharp, same with Cadillacs. I totaly dig the "arts and science" thing.

 

As for comparing to the CLA and A3, aren't those two smaller than the MKZ? Or are they larger than I'm thinking..?

 

Well it's still priced within the realm of entry premium/luxe category. The way the CLA and A3 rack up options, competitively priced and equipped, and MKZ is within spitting distance of those two in price. You get way more car, way better interior and so much more.

 

I don't want the MKZ to storm barns as much as keep up with traffic in the boulevards while getting the maximum attention on the city streets. It's such a pretty, and distinctive design. And it looks just like the concept. 

 

It's basically what amounts to a sedan version of the Cadillac ELR. Both are very pretty cars. 

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Why not just take your favorite old auto and convert it to pure EV with a large battery pack to give you a 300 mile range? www.evwest.com does these conversions and you can enjoy your lovely existing auto with far better performance than the MKZ can give you.

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sign me up for a 300hp AWD V6 model, but I have to have the big roof.  You can keep the Black Label trim, it's a bit more than I need or want to spend.

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Why not just take your favorite old auto and convert it to pure EV with a large battery pack to give you a 300 mile range? www.evwest.com does these conversions and you can enjoy your lovely existing auto with far better performance than the MKZ can give you.

 

Why would anyone limit themselves to EV range, even if that range is 500miles. 

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Problem with the fancy roof is that it adds what 300 lbs to the vehicle? And it's all on top of the car, so the handling and center of gravity are directly impacted. With AWD and the glass roof, it weighs like 4200 lbs. A midsize car!! At that weight you're losing 2+ mpg and about half a second in acceleration vs a FWD V6.

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Why not just take your favorite old auto and convert it to pure EV with a large battery pack to give you a 300 mile range? www.evwest.com does these conversions and you can enjoy your lovely existing auto with far better performance than the MKZ can give you.

 

Why would anyone limit themselves to EV range, even if that range is 500miles. 

Eventually I see the auto world as pure EV where you just go and swap out power cells. Very clean compared to fossil fuels. Right now CNG is the logical next step but I have seen a Suburban that was converted to a warp 9 motor with enough battery cells under the auto to give it 400 miles and still have AC, Heater, Nav, Stereo, etc. So I know it can be done. 

 

WARP11 motor is rated as 225HP, 673 ft lbs of torque. So why not have a quiet monster of an engine to pull a trailer, move your family around with and charge up at home.

 

Like I said above, I believe eventually we will see battery packs with much higher range and the ability to just swap them out. Tesla has proved this with their new 300 mile range battery that can either be recharged or quick exchange at select supercharging stations. Just a mater of time and as a few others on this forum have stated, most people do not drive more than 300 to 500 miles in a day. This will cause people to think about what they want, the CHEVY BOLT with 200 mile range will make many reconsider the type of auto they buy next year.

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Problem with the fancy roof is that it adds what 300 lbs to the vehicle? And it's all on top of the car, so the handling and center of gravity are directly impacted. With AWD and the glass roof, it weighs like 4200 lbs. A midsize car!! At that weight you're losing 2+ mpg and about half a second in acceleration vs a FWD V6.

Agreed. Just one reason I don't like sunroofs in general. Weight, in the worst palce.  Plus, could you imagine how much it would suck if something broke on that to the second owner 5 years down the road..??

 

BUT, this isn't a sports car. I think Lincoln has made it fairly obvious that they are going the soft, cushy, luxury route as opposed to sport sedan route.

 

ANOTHER BUT, it does look pretty ballin'. Definitely something to show off.. but that's all I would ever do with it, and with that said. I wouldn't get it..

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When the MKZ gets a refresh, I want to see a lowered, 2.7EB AWD model with a brake/handling package in the $45k range. Showroom needs some excitement.

Edited by cp-the-nerd

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Why not just take your favorite old auto and convert it to pure EV with a large battery pack to give you a 300 mile range? www.evwest.com does these conversions and you can enjoy your lovely existing auto with far better performance than the MKZ can give you.

 

Why would anyone limit themselves to EV range, even if that range is 500miles. 

Eventually I see the auto world as pure EV where you just go and swap out power cells. Very clean compared to fossil fuels. Right now CNG is the logical next step but I have seen a Suburban that was converted to a warp 9 motor with enough battery cells under the auto to give it 400 miles and still have AC, Heater, Nav, Stereo, etc. So I know it can be done. 

 

WARP11 motor is rated as 225HP, 673 ft lbs of torque. So why not have a quiet monster of an engine to pull a trailer, move your family around with and charge up at home.

 

Like I said above, I believe eventually we will see battery packs with much higher range and the ability to just swap them out. Tesla has proved this with their new 300 mile range battery that can either be recharged or quick exchange at select supercharging stations. Just a mater of time and as a few others on this forum have stated, most people do not drive more than 300 to 500 miles in a day. This will cause people to think about what they want, the CHEVY BOLT with 200 mile range will make many reconsider the type of auto they buy next year.

 

The logistics involved with supplying new and old battery packs every few hundred miles has been calculated to be impossible.

Storage containers for gas is much easier and far faster.

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