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The long wait for the Acura NSX continues. Automobile reports that Acura has pushed back production from this fall to next Spring due to a change in engine layout. The original plan was to use a naturally-aspirated V6 for the vehicle, but it was decided to add turbochargers to the engine. This has caused Acura to build a bespoke twin-turbo V6 and change the engine layout to a longitudinal configuration.

 

This delay puts the transformation from the NSX being a concept car to production car at about four years.

 

One item that is still up in the air is when the Acura NSX will go on sale. Jon Ikeda, Acura VP and general manager tells the magazine that meeting with dealers in October will hold the answer.

 

Source: Automobile


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So adding twin turbo's, a large increase in weight, this will be interesting to watch if they can really get it into production with only a 6 month change.

 

I would avoid the first one built that is for sure.

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WTF are they doing over there at Acura?? This thing has been in the pipeline long enough to get a refresh by now. Is the car even going to be relevant when it comes out? I can't imagine there will be too many enthusiasts still frothing at the mouth for this car in another 6+ months.

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Only rabid Honda / Acura fans will still like it in another 6 months. My gut tells me this will become a pig with pathetic performance due to the bloated twin turbo V6 and the changes that are needed.

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Every year a sports car gets delayed is another nail in the coffin.

 

When the NSX concept bowed in 2011, 500 horsepower pushed sports cars into supercar territory, and a sub-4 second 0-60 was a benchmark of top tier of performance. Now there's a monster Corvette that hits 60 mph in 3.0-3.2 seconds and top tier performance is in the sub-3 second range.

 

I predict underwhelming results similar to the LFA that–for $400,000–couldn't match the performance or ride quality of cars less than half its price from day 1.

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..I still love the LFA.. Not sure what it is about it but it tugs at my heart strings. And I don't typically like how V10s sounds either but that LFA sounds gnarly.

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Every year a sports car gets delayed is another nail in the coffin.

 

When the NSX concept bowed in 2011, 500 horsepower pushed sports cars into supercar territory, and a sub-4 second 0-60 was a benchmark of top tier of performance. Now there's a monster Corvette that hits 60 mph in 3.0-3.2 seconds and top tier performance is in the sub-3 second range.

 

I predict underwhelming results similar to the LFA that–for $400,000–couldn't match the performance or ride quality of cars less than half its price from day 1.

It is an near-exact replay of the LFA in terms of product planning. It's like the Japanese still think it's 1990 and the competition is still asleep at the wheel.

Which makes it even more fun that they're doing it. I do not see this ending well for Honda.

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DUDE, YOU'RE STILL WAITING FOR VTEC TO KICK IN, YO?

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why not just a simple manual trans and a new high tech force fed v6?

 

I'm wondering the same thing. I wish they'd offer a "base-model" NSX with a simple RWD layout and manual transmission or DCT. That would appeal to purists. Hybrid sports cars don't do much for me, personally.

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Well...Im disappointed.

 

VTEC did NOT kick in...it has stalled somewhere between the  Lexus LFA and Cadillac show stopping show cars...

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VTEC, did it ever really amount to anything?

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I hope this car fails miserably. Just out of spite. These decade plus long development plans are insane. Did they learn nothing from the LFA?

 

I mean, Ford completely engineered and built a complete GT 'concept' in what, 2 years? Hell, look at the short turnaround from 918 concept to production car.

 

You're a joke, Acura. And Infiniti, too. Japanese brands in general right now, really.

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I hope this car fails miserably. Just out of spite. These decade plus long development plans are insane. Did they learn nothing from the LFA?

 

I mean, Ford completely engineered and built a complete GT 'concept' in what, 2 years? Hell, look at the short turnaround from 918 concept to production car.

 

You're a joke, Acura. And Infiniti, too. Japanese brands in general right now, really.

Agreed.

 

Honestly, I think they could have taken 15 years to make the car as long as it wasn't shown at an autoshow 15 years before production. They should have either been better at getting it finished or not shown it at auto shows anywhere close to how early they did.

 

The Ford GT could have been hidden for 2 years.. they just kept it under wraps, like they should have and like Acura should have.

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I forgot to say....it seems  the world would likely to see a mid-engined Corvette before the world will see another NSX.

 

After all the negativity posted in this thread about the upcoming NSX,  regardless that some people wish it to fail, I for one, cant wait for it to grace its presence.

The NSX looks fantastic and although the LFA was never on my radar screen, other than that V10, I am smitten with the new NSX...

 

Oh...just another painful reminder on how long ago Acura is telling us a new NSX is on its way...

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Found this read very interesting, the woman responsible for the NSX designs grew up in California surrounded by the car culture and old hot-rods and her love of the best auto being the timeless 67 Chevelle.

 

http://blog.caranddriver.com/acura-nsx-designer-michelle-christensen-on-the-influence-of-nature-and-the-67-chevelle/?mag=cad&click=yr

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Admitted NSX-hater checking in again. Maybe Honda should be putting more effort into this thing instead of that neat motorcycle/car mash-up thing that will never see the light of day.  

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They should just delay it until 2027.

 

Watch the production model show up with a turbo 3.5 liter Accord V6 making 400 hp and it will get outrun by Mustang GT's and M3's that cost 1/3 as much.  The NSX is a sham, the 90s car had like 270 hp and 220 lb-ft of torque with 5.8 second 0-60 times and they wanted to call that a super car.  Lame.

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      3. Based on Autodata total sales for all three-row models in the Mid Premium CUV segment.
      4. Based on Urban Science retail sales for all three-row models in the Premium Upper Mid-size CUV segment 2018CYTD May.
      5. Based on 2019 EPA mileage ratings. Use for comparison purposes only. Your actual mileage will vary depending on how you drive and maintain your vehicle, driving conditions and other factors. 
      6. MSRP (Manufacturer's Suggested Retail Price) excluding tax, license, registration, $995 destination charge and options. Dealer prices may vary.

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    • By William Maley
      After a major refresh for the 2017 model year, Acura is giving the MDX a number of modest changes for the 2019 model year.
      The big changes of note deal with the MDX's mechanicals. Acura has reprogrammed the nine-speed automatic transmission that is said to provide smoother starts and will prioritize second-gear when leaving a stop. The previously optional stop-start system becomes standard on all MDX models. Acura's Active Damper System (ADS) that was only available on the Sport Hybrid model is added the MDX with the Advanced package.
      Next up is an A-Spec appearance trim that brings a revised front fascia, black trim, 20-inch wheels, seats upholstered in Alcantara and leather, thicker steering wheel, and other minor changes. 
      The remainder of the updates are as followed,
      Four new colors: Majestic Black Pearl, Performance Red, Canyon Bronze Metallic, and Apex Blue Pearl (exclusive to A-Spec) New trim options including Desert Olive Ash wood 4-Way Power Lumbar adjustments for front seats The MDX is powered by either a 3.5L V6 (290 horsepower) or a V6 hybrid powertrain (321 horsepower).
      Pricing for 2019 MDX ranges from $45,295 for the base FWD model to $61,045 for the SH-AWD model with Advance & Entertainment packages. Pricing includes a $995.00 destination charge. No word on how much the Sport Hybrid will set you back.
      Source: Acura


      2019 Acura MDX Arrives with Luxury and Performance Upgrades Plus First A-Spec Variant
      Jul 17, 2018 - TORRANCE, Calif.
      Best-selling three-row luxury SUV of all-time boosts luxury appeal with upgraded interior and expanded color palette A-Spec sport appearance package available for the first time on MDX Available Active Damper System and wider wheel & tire option improve dynamic experience 9-speed automatic transmission enhanced for smoother, more fluid acceleration feel The 2019 Acura MDX arrives in dealerships today boasting upgraded interior fitment, new available premium exterior colors, drivability and dynamics enhancements, and an A-Spec sport appearance package. The 2019 MDX with standard AcuraWatch® technology and available Super-Handling All-Wheel Drive™ (SH-AWD®) carries a starting Manufacturer's Suggested Retail Price (MSRP1) of $44,300 (excluding $995 destination and handling) while the new MDX A-Spec starts at $54,800 with standard SH-AWD®. The 2019 MDX lineup will be further strengthened by the arrival of the 2019 MDX Sport Hybrid, going on-sale next month.
      With nearly a million units sold since its inception, the MDX is the best-selling three-row luxury SUV of all time2. It is the only three-row luxury SUV in segment with six straight years of more than 50,000 sales3, and is the #1 retail-selling three-row model in segment year-to-date4.
      Interior and Exterior – More Luxury, More Choices
      Building on a major design refresh in 2017 and key technology updates in 2018, the 2019 Acura MDX comes with new interior enhancements designed to up the luxury quotient. New features include available authentic Desert Olive Ash wood trim, high-contrast seat and door panel stitching, and contrasting front seat side garnishes. Driver and front passenger seats now feature standard 4-way power lumbar adjustments, while the Technology and Entertainment packages receive an updated second-row seat configuration, allowing easy passage to the third row. The MDX with Advance Package adds trim-exclusive matching wood center console trim.
      The 2019 MDX expands its color palette to a total of nine options, including a rich new Gunmetal Metallic and four new available premium colors—Majestic Black Pearl, Performance Red Pearl, Canyon Bronze Metallic and the A-Spec-exclusive Apex Blue Pearl.
      Newly-designed 20-inch aluminum alloy wheels grace the Advance Package with a machine finish and Shark Grey accents, gaining a half-inch in width (up from 8.0 inches) and shod with wider 265/45-series tires (up from 245/50). MDXs with the Advance Package also gain body-color lower garnishes.
      A-Spec Variant Joins MDX
      For the 2019 model, MDX adds an all-new A-Spec sport appearance variant. Available exclusively with Acura's torque-vectoring Super-Handling All-Wheel Drive™ (SH-AWD®), A-Spec features a more athletic stance highlighted by exclusive half-inch wider 20-inch Shark Grey aluminum alloy wheels wrapped in low profile 265/45-series tires. An aggressive new front fascia, body-color lower sills, larger-diameter exhaust finishers, as well as gloss-black and dark chrome trim for the headlights, grille, window surround and rear tailgate spoiler further distinguish the MDX A-Spec.
      Interior enhancements feature sport seats trimmed in rich red or black leather with black Alcantara™ inserts, high-contrast stitching, unique A-Spec gauges, sport pedals, Alcantara door inserts, gloss-black trim, a thicker-rimmed A-Spec-badged steering wheel with paddle shifters, and an exclusive A-Spec door step garnish.
      Performance, Ride and Handling Refined
      The 2019 MDX can now be optioned with Acura's Active Damper System (ADS), previously available only on the MDX Sport Hybrid, offering both ride comfort and handling advantages while further expanding the dynamic "range" of the driver-selectable Integrated Dynamics System.
      The responsive 3.5-liter direct-injected i-VTEC® 24-valve V6 engine continues to power MDX with 290 peak horsepower (SAE net) and 267 lb.-ft. peak torque (SAE net), in either standard front-wheel drive configuration, or the available SH-AWD® system. SH-AWD® delivers up to 70 percent of engine torque to the rear wheels and the ability to distribute up to 100 percent of that torque between the left and right rear wheels to optimize available traction and sharpen steering and handling response.
      The 2019 model year also brings significant drivability enhancements to MDX. Its 9-speed automatic transmission gains a smoother, more fluid acceleration feel in normal driving by prioritizing second-gear starts. When demand is higher in conditions such as full-throttle acceleration, certain uphill and towing situations, and when S-mode is selected, first gear starts are then prioritized for maximum available acceleration and pulling power.
      Further drivability refinements are realized via an upgraded Idle Stop feature that is now standard across the MDX lineup for 2019. System enhancements shorten engine re-start response and operational smoothness via a new brake pressure trigger and software upgrades, resulting in a more natural, seamless feel.
      The 2019 MDX with front-wheel drive has an EPA fuel economy rating of 20/27/23 mpg (city/highway/combined)5, A-Spec is rated at 19/25/21, and all other models with SH-AWD® have an EPA rating of 19/26/22 mpg (city/highway/combined)2.
      Standard Safety and Driver-Assistive Technology  
      All 2019 MDX trims will come standard with the AcuraWatch™ suite of advanced safety and driver-assistive technologies, including Collision Mitigation Braking System™ (CMBS™) with Forward Collision Warning (FCW), Lane Keeping Assist (LKAS), Adaptive Cruise Control (ACC) with Low-Speed Follow, and Road Departure Mitigation (RDM) with Lane Departure Warning (LDW).
      In addition to AcuraWatch technology, all MDX's boast a comprehensive array of active and passive safety features, including Acura's Advance Compatibility Engineering™ (ACE™) body structure, advanced front, side, and side-curtain airbags, front pre-tensioning seatbelts, 4-channel anti-lock brakes with Electronic Brake Distribution, Vehicle Stability Assist™ (VSA®) with traction control, and Tire Pressure Monitoring System.
      2019 MDX Pricing and EPA Fuel Economy Ratings

      Trim MSRP6
      MSRP6 
      Including $995 Destination Charge
      EPA MPG Rating
      (city/highway/combined)5
      MDX (FWD)
      $44,300
      $45,295
      20/27/23
      MDX (FWD) with Technology Package
      $49,300
      $50,295
      20/27/23
      MDX (FWD) with Technology & Entertainment Packages
      $51,300
      $52,295
      20/27/23
      MDX (FWD) with Advance Package
      $56,050
      $57,045
      20/27/23
      MDX (FWD) with Advance & Entertainment Packages
      $58,050
      $59,045
      20/27/23
      MDX (SH-AWD)
      $46,300
      $47,295
      19/26/22
      MDX (SH-AWD) with Technology Package
      $51,300
      $52,295
      19/26/22
      MDX (SH-AWD) with Technology & Entertainment Packages
      $53,300
      $54,295
      19/26/22
      MDX A-Spec (SH-AWD)
      $54,800
      $55,795
      19/25/21
      MDX (SH-AWD) with Advance Package
      $58,050
      $59,045
      19/26/22
      MDX (SH-AWD) with Advance & Entertainment Packages
      $60,050
      $61,045
      19/26/22
      MDX Sport Hybrid
      TBA


      1. MSRP (Manufacturer's Suggested Retail Price) excluding tax, license, registration, $995 destination charge and options. Dealer prices may vary. 
      2. Based on Autodata total sales of all luxury three-row SUVs 1980 to 2018CYTD June.
      3. Based on Autodata total sales for all three-row models in the Mid Premium CUV segment.
      4. Based on Urban Science retail sales for all three-row models in the Premium Upper Mid-size CUV segment 2018CYTD May.
      5. Based on 2019 EPA mileage ratings. Use for comparison purposes only. Your actual mileage will vary depending on how you drive and maintain your vehicle, driving conditions and other factors. 
      6. MSRP (Manufacturer's Suggested Retail Price) excluding tax, license, registration, $995 destination charge and options. Dealer prices may vary.
    • By dfelt
      New Ring Drive adds AWD to Latest Honda Civic Type R
      Posted to Youtube a video on a california start up that believes it can build a better mousetrap. What mousetrap would that be?
      In wheel electric motors. According to the company's web, the average traditional hub motor is approximately 68lbs. The Orbis Ring Drive is 35lbs for a 70hp motor. The company does not state the torque but will give you full details if you sign an NDA. So adding AWD and 140 HP to the Type R basic 306HP FWD car brings you to a blistering 446hp AWD Type R Hybrid.
      Founder and CEO Marcus Hays with Co-inventor Scott Streeter are the brains behind this Ring Drive motor. Hays was the principle lead for development at EV Global Motors by Lee Iacocca. He left the company and started up his own 5 years ago developing the Ring Drive technology that he believes will also offer gains to be used by Motorcycles, powered bicycles, ATVs and military off road applications.
      ORBIS DRIVEN Web Site
      “The company’s brochure explains “the technology divides a wheel or cog into two essential parts, a stationary hub and a rim or ‘ring.’ The ring rotates about the stationary hub, driven by a lightweight, high-speed motor.”
      Hays says the ring drive is more efficient while reducing vehicle weight as much as 40% and driveline complexity by 75% compared to powertrains in which the electric motors (in-hub or in the driveline) power an axle.”


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