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So Coyote engine is sold now in Walmart, hmmm should I stop on my way home? Walmart

Hope you didn’t get your knees dirty.

What I really want to see is the torque curve.... what's the torque output at say 1,500 rpm? That will say a lot about drivability.

The issue of FCA's sales reporting being suspect has been in the news for a while. I don't blame him for not wanting to take the fall for it if he truly didn't institute the practice.

It matters not at all that Cadillac & Chevrolet are both under General Motors. This is where you continually trip yourself up. 'General Motors' is a far secondary to Cadillac and Chevrolet. Just like when Buick & Olds & Chevy & Pontiac all had mid-6 liter V8 muscle cars selling near 100K per year ('66 GTO) and pulling down a 54% market share, there is literally no reason 2 (or 3 or 4) brands cannot have performance cars. None. VW has Lambo, bugatti & porsche under the same corporate letterhead- where's the outcry there? Don't all 3 have some excellent performance cars; which is the "performance division" of VW?? Full-fledged & blatant hypocrisy. It's exactly like saying only one division should have CUVs, and you've actually said the complete opposite there.

I was at first against the reduction in power of the CT4/5-V. The German brands have expanded their M models and AMGs to no detriment to their high power options. I don’t think this has be different for Cadillac either. I like the CT4 quite a bit too. I think Cadillac in terms of non-crossovers really only lags in glitzy looking infotainment systems and model choice like coupes, or ultra luxury level cars above the CT6.

@riviera74, @NINETY EIGHT REGENCY, @smk4565, @dwightlooi ~ ALL the above premises are erroneous. >>"Can anybody tell me the difference between today's Cadillac from all other luxury makes?"<< If you can answer how Audi/BMW/mercedes/lexus are different than all other luxury makes, you can answer the same for Cadillac. >>"The sedans do need to stop trying to be German."<< They're not; it was the Germans who became distinctly American, then eclipsed Cadillac in many instances. This was a clear targeting/copying, and they did a good job by the '90s, but prior to they weren't even on the same field. >>"Not everyone agrees the V-series is what Cadillac needs, though. Cadillac super cars “answer a question the world wasn't asking,”"<< Wow, an issue "not everyone" agrees on? We're still on Earth, correct? "Not everyone" agrees with anything you care to mention, especially within the automotive industry. >>"I agree with Riviera that Cadillac needs identity."<< It has as much as any other luxury brand, with a richer heritage. >>"It is NOT that Cadillac doesn't have an identity. It is that its identity keeps changing!"<< It really hasn't in the 2000s. Prior to that, it was a near non-stop bemoaning of how out of step Cadillac was in the luxury field. They adjusted their course heading and now people want them to go back. Where people fall into their own wormhole is their erroneous idea that Cadillac MUST be a singular, black & white, hard-line "definition"; a one-mission brand. I struggle to think of a multi-model mainstream brand that does this. I guess one might say ferrari or Lamborghini, tho ferrari's low point in the '80s is hard to remedy with their before & after. Is Cadillac where I personally would advocate they be? Not exactly, but my perspective is highly unique. But it's from the vantage point that I can see the Overall Picture that people have cried out for 'Cadillac to go back to being Cadillac' with no Earthly idea how to define that or what that means.

Can anybody tell me the difference between today's Cadillac from all other luxury makes? As in a unique selling point. SuperCruise is great but Cadillac needs a clear identity that a ten-year-old would recognize. Escalade truly fills the bill, while the XT CUVs do fall short. The sedans do need to stop trying to be German. Neither Lexus nor Acura made that infuriating error. Luxury car buyers are not going to ditch the Germans or Lexus if Cadillac is not true to itself. Ideally, Cadillac would have its OWN design studio AND its own factory so that GM can make Cadillac vehicles, not share facilities with the others. Cadillac needs its own leadership who understands what Cadillac is and proceed accordingly. Sometimes that means telling the CEO NO to stupid bean counting moves that hurt the vehicle more than its helps the bottom line. In fact, Cadillac should return to names so that it can be a true All-American luxury make (the alphanumeric designations belong to Germany ---- send those back). At a time when a lot of people are pushing for a clear identity, why can't GM in general (and Cadillac in particular) push for an all-American identity that can bring pride to its owners, not just mere badge snobbery?

Wasn’t talking about production WRT immigration, merely within the OEMs POV. But agree with you in principle, i don’t understand advocating against instilling the same policies other trade partners do against you. Pretty sure that makes me an ‘anti-redistributionist’.

Hollywood almost always peaks within the first 2 in a franchise, then they jump the shark

Toyota builds most of their cars in the USA, and the others in Japan with even higher costs. They seem to have figured it out.

I actually am, this is a hand off to a new generation. A.I / M.L. is a reality, for those not accustomed to the acronym, Artificial Intelligence Machine Learning. I am working on a project right now, it is real and will be coming to technology near you soon. I am excited by the new robots and the final hand off from both Linda and Arnold to a new young cast. Having Cameron doing the movie, should be great.

The Tiny House Nation trailer-based 'houses' are ridiculous. At least get a 40-ft trailer and a 3500 dually… but wait; that's still ridiculous. 'My kitchen sink is the bathroom sink- how cool!' - - - - - You've heard of 'one of 2' or even 'one of none' with regards to a particular vehicle combination. How about '270 of none' :

I aint feelin' it either, For me...its the lack of...da da da du dun. da da da du dun. The new song is just...depressing. But maybe that's the point? I will see it. Just because Ive invested 30 years of my life consuming this franchise, including wasting my quarters playing the T2 pinball machine. Oh yes...I was a pinball wizard. I figure, I might as well see how Ahnold gets to say "Ill be back" once again. There will be great disappoint if he doesnt say it. Yup...my expectations are soooooo high for this version that Ill be happy JUST to hear Ahnold say those 3 words.

Lol. Not watching that dumpster fire either.

[Dark Fate trailer] : so far, I'm not feeling it. And seeing Linda Hamilton looking 70 -not that she was a great classical beauty in T1- isn't helping. - - - - -

Well...Skynet is happening... whether we want it or not.

While we're setting the record straight, the xxxS / Sxxx wasn't in the luxury segment until the 1990s; it was just a run-of-the-mill family sedan prior to. Like a Plymouth. EDIT :: I take it back- you could get better in a Plymouth (1965 here). Whew- look at those MB door panels! ~

SMK keeping things in perspective

Lovely another WASTE of Tax payers dollars on a company visit to really hid the cost of being used to stump for re-election of Potus45. https://www.abc27.com/news/local/carlisle-west-shore/vp-pence-to-attend-pa-gop-state-dinner/2053594541 Pretty clear this is a fund raising / re-election visit than a valid company visit. Need to stop of Political people from abusing the system this way. Seems since December 47,000 manufacturing jobs have been shed. Guess the Trump Bump is over. https://www.bloomberg.com/opinion/articles/2019-04-05/manufacturing-jobs-boom-is-fading Harvard University economist Robert Z. Lawrence described this phenomenon in 2017, writing that it suggested “a tradeoff between the ability of the manufacturing sector to contribute to productivity growth and its ability to provide employment opportunities.” In the booming 1990s, big gains in manufacturing productivity were accompanied by more or less flat manufacturing employment; in the less-booming early 2000s and in the immediate aftermath of the last recession, spectacular gains in manufacturing productivity were accompanied by plummeting manufacturing employment.

Totally agree, I think there is more here that will come up as your right, the sales reporting was in the news for a long time, yet this I think will bring up additional uglyness.

I have looked at the video and studied these two cars. These are my thoughts only... GM clearly has not fixed Cadillac. There is a huge problem. I thought about the changes in the lineup. All they did was drop XTS and replace it with XT6 crossover because this is what sells. XT6 just like XTS appeals to the same segment of buyers. They replaced CTS and ATS. They said that was not happening. They did. They go by different names( CT4 and CT5). They have three sedans instead of four. XTS was too close to CT6 and put the squeeze on CTS. At least XTS had a bigger trunk unlike the small trunk on CT6. They still have not fixed the fundamental problems of the CTS and ATS. I checked out the dimensions on the CT4. It is as big as a downsized 1986 Buick Riviera. They at least got the c pillar right on CT4. They still clearly have not let this Euro aspiration thing go. They need to stop being ashamed who they they are, and use the heritage and history to rebuild Cadillac. GM has the strong heritage and does not use it to rebuild the entire company. It is like John Mc Elroy from Autoline said: GM is shrinking its foot print globally for the next down turn. They want to act like a smaller company, but they do not realize they are still a large company. They are smaller globally: No presence in Europe, and have left countries they were not selling. That is a good move, but you have got to invest in your brands. GM is scared to take chances and it shows. They cannot depend on China. They need a: Ed Welburn, a Harley Earl, or a Bill Mitchell, a Wayne Cherry, or Chuck Jordan to lead design. Looking Back on GM’s Six Past Design Chiefs https://www.automobilemag.com/news/looking-back-gms-six-design-chiefs/ The Cadillac crest needs revision. I at first thought with the guy that was working for Cadillac whose first name starts with a U who left recently was changing it, that maybe it was a good idea. I do not think so now. It does not say luxury or stand out any longer. It is no different than a Chevrolet emblem. You could put Chevrolet emblems on these two cars and they could pass for Chevrolets. That Cadillac emblem/ crest is missing something. Even the one from the 1950's said "luxury" They need to bring the wreath back or the V or make them emblem more detailed. Right now it does not say luxury. It says "cheap or mass market" It is sad when a company favors Chevrolet for everything and it shows. Too many brands have suffered because of Chevrolet. People thought oh, kill brands and it will solve the problem. It has not and GM still is doing the same thing and making the same mistakes. This is getting old. They did not give Oldsmobile this much time to turn around. That was unfair. GM should engineer top down and not bottom up. What is good enough for Chevrolet is not good enough for the rest of GM. They should invest and change how they think. The people who post here know what Cadillac is. GM does not know. Cadillac is majestic. It is stately. It is luxury. It stands apart. It has features you should not find on Chevrolet. It has styling to stay you have arrived. CT6 is a good start, but it is not complete. That c pillar on that car does not say Cadillac. It says Toyota, Audi or other six window design c- pillar cars. You look at CT5, you do not immediately think Cadillac. You think Saturn or Chevrolet. It should not be that way. Cadillac needs to lay off all that black trim. Again.. it says cheap. They have taken the Escala concept styling and put it on the CT4( small) the CT5( medium) and the CT6( large). That philosophy does not work. That is what BMW does. BMW is in trouble right now too. If Pontiac was here and they said these two cars were Pontiac, no one would have an issue because that is what they would expect from Pontiac. If they said they were Holden, no one would have an issue. When you look at Cadillac, you should want to own it or drive it. It should be nice to look at. The only vehicle that has stayed true to Cadillac's mission is Escalade. They need to look at that vehicle and build on that. They need to learn who they are again. They need to start using real names. The letter and number thing is not working. Just stop. I am just expressing how I feel. I do not work at GM, but it is clear to the outside what needs to happen to fix Cadillac. I want GM and Cadillac to be great again. What will it take? What must happen?

There are two alternatives... (1) You eliminate all wage floors, taxes, regulations, social safety nets and everything else and have absolute capitalism and zero immigration control. In that case, US workers will be able to match 50 cents an hour wages if they have to and if demand and supply allows it. Absolute and comparative advantages that you learned in economics 101 applies again because labor efficiency is measured in man-hours not dollars. (2) You tariff the hell out of imports to eliminate any price advantage they enjoy from being in a lower cost country. But, we have done the opposite because our leaders have NEVER represented the interest of the country, just the interest of their Globalist corporate donors. Let me give you an example. The EU is a net exporter of cars, the USA is a net importer of cars. Why? Is it because they make better cars or their workers do a better job? Or is it, at least in part, because EU tariffs US car exports to the EU at 10%, whereas the US tariffs EU cars only at 2.5%?

I'll tell you this... The USA is a high cost country. You cannot design, engineer and make cars in a high cost ####ry while trying to be a value leader in the automotive industry. You can bean count all you want; you'll still lose the affordable end of the market to cheap imports and your bean counted products still won't sell as luxury exports. That was GM and the other US manufacturer's folly in the 80s and 90s. USA manufacturers, operating in a high cost country, can be a Porsche, a BMW, a Mercedes, a Rolls-Royce or a Ferrari, but they cannot be a Hyundai or a Geely. This necessarily means that they MUST shed marketshare and focus on the premium end of the industry. It's very simple logic, but one which nobody seems to understand for decades.

Yes allot of Juice, but pathetic still. Still not sold on these overhead cam and in this case dual with high horsepower and weak torque. Guess Germans like Italian love their High revving noise over actual grunt of moving. Interesting note is that the Quad 4 always had more torque than HP without a turbo and still passed emissions. Anyone that drove a Quad 4 could feel the grunt of movement in your gut without having to race the sewing machine engine.