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Now try doing all of that with two feet and three pedals instead of one foot and two pedals. It definitely takes more skill and coordination to do. I can drive a stick, but I'm not as good on the track with one as I am with an auto.

Driving fast well takes a lot of skill, driving fast with manual transmission takes more skill than with automatic, period. Try to do all the correct steering and brake inputs while correctly doing heel and toe shifting... Having said that, and being a big manual fan (I drive manual daily too), I think it was a good decision to make C8 auto only. Not only from financial stand point and the hull integrity point, but also as a high level performance car that is going to compete with exotics but cost enough for many people to actually take it to a track. The good news is IMO, that it comes with DCT, which I think is the best compromise between manual and auto transmissions. I think it is probably the future for sports cars.

I've driven both and there is absolutely no way it takes the same level of skill to drive an auto as a manual. I actually didn't think I would ever see the day where somebody would actually say that it takes the same amount of skill to flip a paddle as it does to bang through gears in a manual transmission.

BMW lost their way a long time ago when they strayed too far from their original purpose in the name of volume. They made the 3-series and 5-series too soft to cater to American tastes then they started chasing weird things like the 3GT and X6.

The company I work for, a large energy company that does a lot of oil and gas extraction, has announced that they are aiming to get out of the hydrocarbon business.

I wonder if they will do a Hybrid or ICE version.

Sorry... but just no. The extra coordination required is why the automatic has taken over from the manual.

I doubt they'd call it Malibu. They're just as likely to turn it into some sort of crossover. They already make a wagon on this platform. MaliCroz anyone?

The car your talking about being glad about is a bland front drive 4-cylinder 'everyone else' appliance.

They should probably just cancel everything except the X3, X5, and X7 and the 3-series sedan. Then they'd make lots of profit.

it'll depend if it is tied to other packages

The Ultimate Driving Niche.

Bull. Sh!t. Not even comparable.

No idea what will happen. I think if they default on the payments, the state will take the highways back.

Because they want to text and drive.

RIP to the manual transmission. Died because of lack of interest by car buyers.

Just repeating your wise words. You should be flattered. Oh and fix your CAPS LOCK key. It appears to be broken.

not really, just faster at shifting. I wonder what ever happened to GM's "No Lift Shift" that they had on the Cobalt, ATS-V, and CTS-V? I wonder if the CT4-V and CT5-V will have it. On the manual shifter on the C8, I think they expected the take rate to be very low that they didn't want to bother with the engineering and certifications.

As with the C8, they aren't targeting 'traditional GM performance car buyers'---they have realized they can't sell to Baby Boomers forever, they are aging out.

Those cars don't appeal to traditional GM performance car buyers. They are targeting the wrong audience with most Cadillacs, and have been for a long time. The BMW 3GT and 5GT would beg to differ.

Now you're just trolling....

Because they are Mercedes...infinite niches. Will that strategy change? Maybe..

Purpose: to compete with Kia on price…. but with a front wheel drive sedan.

I am not a fan of black out packages. This would sell better as a Pilot with an NSX powertrain. I bet a $125,000 Pilot Type R with an NSX motor would outsell the NSX.

Yeah... they went to the trouble of federalizing the SS sedan, giving lip service to their enthusiast base... then kept it a deep, dark secret. When it did not sell on par with Charger (I guess "production constraints" or whatev prevented this... Aussies bought all of them as Commodores?) they killed it unceremoniously... and used it as an example of why RWD enthusiast sedans from an iconic American brand known for performance since the mid-50's don't sell. I will always say the Commodore/G8/SS did not sell well enough in the USA for two reasons: generic styling that could fit any GM brand with a grille change, and MARKETING. It certainly was not because of a lack of performance ability.

Drove a C3, C5 and C6 for a few miles each, I don't have the discipline to refrain from hooning the latter two.

Can somebody get BMW to ax Mini? Even though I see a few driving around, there is no reason to have Mini here in the land of CUVs. Even Europe may no longer need Mini Coopers when they can get a Buick Encore or a Cadillac XT4.

The accord & camry may be, but I note the Accord is fully 25% off it's peak volume, and the Sonata is about 55% off it's peak, which was only SIX years ago. We bemoaned GM getting out of minivans, and now the segment is almost dead. Sedans are dying faster than any segment in my memory; Ford & GM may be ahead of the wave here. While I hear the '1 egg' sentiment, I note a number of brands that have or are doing just that (Jeep, Land Rover, ferrari, porsche-before-SUVs, etc). Yes- they are singular brands within a portfolio of brands, but no corporate heads wish/plan to have any of their brands fail due to a '1 egg' approach. It can and does work in some instances (in other cases, you have Mini…). The first OEM to bring out the 'hybrid sedan/CUV' is going to pave the segment into the future.

The data is that it isn't good to put all your eggs in one basket. 2024 is almost the end of the next presidential term, so who knows what can happen between now and then. Chevy having 0 conventional sedans in 2025 doesn't sound like a good position to be in... especially since the Accord and Camry are likely to still be here.

by the time the SUV/CUV fad fades, the market will have shifted more to EVs and autonomous vehicles... and who know what those will look like. Rolling toasters probably.

Yes it is happening again. Just like when affordable RWD sedans (mostly) disappeared after 1987. Now it is virtually all affordable FWD sedans that are disappearing into the ether. This is really sad, but it seems few people actually WANT to buy a FWD sedan when they want a FWD crossover instead.

GM definitely did the right thing in pricing the diesel engine not the highest priced engine by a couple grand like Ford and Ram did.

With the advances in solid state battery technology and the design changes that have recently been discovered and are under heavy testing like from XNRGI I see a couple sedans still in the Chevrolet portfolio, but EV focused.

I would be cool with a Jeep Grand Cherokee......

New temp tagged Palisades in various cities and highways...good sign. Tellurides, of course, everywhere...more and more. New ruby red Cadillac XT6 with dealer tags leaving NYC, onto the Jersey Turnpike. Without a doubt, one of the blandest, slab sided, no detail, etc. vehicles on road. Almost Pilot esque, but oddly, the Pilot even has more surface detail. Good thing it was red...

Chrysler 300. Chevy Impala. Dodge Charger. Lincoln Aviator. Lincoln Corsair. Ford Explorer. Chevy Traverse. Dodge Durango. Cadillac XT4. Cadillac XT5. Jeep Grand Cherokee.

I was kinda hoping Kia would bring it over here for us journalists to try, but it is right-hand drive. ?

Not everyone wants a crossover. Lots of sedans are still sold... but now chevy won't be selling any of them.

Again, in case you missed it the first time, it is a Corvette, regardless of the aftermarket job on it, so it is not irrelevant to discussions about the Corvette. The same would apply to the Escape if it something brought up on a thread about the Escape. You’re just grasping at straws for some reason and making up your own criteria for what you find interesting (like your C8 example. It doesn’t make the mention of an EV C7 any less irrelevant. The point here is that this is a Vette article and it is not irrelevant to bring up other Vette models, aftermarket or otherwise. You do know what the definition of the word “Ironic” means right? You troll every EV thread ad nauseam. You are just trying to start $h! for no other reason than being mad at being called out for your ad nauseam BS.

Oh, once it loses its soul, sales WILL taper off.

We have no idea of what cars they will have in the EV role out. Very possible for the Malibu to come out as an EV.

Manuals are dead, automatics shift faster, get better gas mileage, etc. Total waste of money to engineer a vehicle to take a manual, and to design a manual transmission to put in it.