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https://www.wsj.com/articles/toyotas-chief-says-electric-vehicles-are-overhyped-11608196665?mod=e2fb Toyota’s Chief Says Electric Vehicles Are Overhyped. Akio Toyoda says converting entirely to EVs could cost hundreds of billions of dollars and make cars unaffordable for average people. Toyota President Akio Toyoda said he feared government regulations would make cars a ‘flower on a high summit’—out of reach for the average person.

He is an enthusiast.

While you talk about the 2% EV market share here and wondering why companies are investing heavily, you ignore that other part of market share involving the REST OF THE WORLD. Again, tell us how you think you know more than EVERY other auto manufacturer out there without your normal level of trolling and deflection. Don’t worry. I’ll wait.

Engines like the 5.3L and the tech behind them have dropped in price over the years while the Silverado they go in have not. That’s the point here. How about you stop deflecting and answer my first set questions there? Of course, maybe its you that doesn’t understand but thats not new, since you have never offered anything of value here. You know what? F him. No matter what answer to you give, no matter the facts that contradict his sorry excuses, he just sticks his fingers in his ears screaming “NO NO NO NO! EVS BAD! NO NO NO NO!” Because he’s so “cerebral”. Quite honestly, he will never understand it because I’m convinced that an EV harmed him in some way. Maybe he can show us on a doll one day.

Not sure if I had posted anything on the car we inherited from Grandpa last December. 2008 Pontiac Grand Prix. He gave it to us last December and then his health quickly declined and he passed away in January this year. He must have known something was up. He was 93. He had still been driving it occasionally up until about 6 months before he died. we did put a bunch of money into misc things and right now it’s throwing a check engine light. Emissions related, they tell me. It’s the venerable 3800 motor. Runs great! Got a fresh oil change today. So I figured what the heck and got it washed for my daughter as well. A few months ago we got a full interior and exterior detail as well. Somehow, we figured out how to get rid of the many years of cigarette smell. It still looks great, so I thought I would throw up some pictures.

Sandy Munro in this video has a lot of interesting views on the future of EVs, batteries (solid state and how they compare to Tesla's batteries and how Tesla's batteries and solid state will change the course of EVs) 40 minute video, but well worth it for a perspective on how the automotive world is on the cusp of a huge change. Just an opinion Munro's is... But its a perspective that one SHOULD DEFINITELY hear and take in...

I know you have stated that EV prices have not moved, but then ICE technology has also just like EVs always started with the best at the top which is what we are seeing with EVs. This is on par with recovery of extensive R&D costs. We have Hyundai, Kia, GM, Ford all saying that EVs need to also have entry and mid range cost auto's. GM has been the only one to publish a road map of auto's coming by 2025 and here we see that Chevrolet will have both entry level to truck level EV's and GM has stated they will be ICE comparable in price. Time will tell, I see that Nissan Leaf EVs are following normal used car pricing and that gives great inexpensive auto's for teens and college students as well as low income people to afford. Yet their short range battery packs might also have something to do with the pricing. Chevrolet Bolt with double the operational range seem to be holding a better than average resale price. I think a more traditional look that the Next generation Bolt and Bolt EUV will have will make it more palatable to many more buyers. Here Chevrolet will have their SubCompact Bolt and the Compact Bolt EUV. Being on the next generation platform that will also be used by the other brands all the way up to Cadillac, I wonder what the new price points will be. If they stay the same as you have stated, then I do think it will be hard for more conquest sales. Yet if they do the right thing in moving each auto into the proper price tier for the size, I think conquest sales will follow.

I would agree with you that the early models out that are pretty much all subcompact and expensive are maxing out in the market. I truly believe once midsize / full size EVs are out especially as trucks / SUVs we will see sales take off especially as the prices come into line with the products. ICE / EV Full size trucks priced the same I expect many to move over to EVs, charge from home and be glad to not have to deal with various fluid / maintenance of ICE auto's.

I certainly would love to see some figures on that. Hard to believe an iron block, solid cam 270HP version (LM7) was more expensive to build than an all aluminum, phased cam, drive-by-wired, cylinder-deactivating 355HP variant.

Around here we have insanely hard water...so they generally last 8 to 10 years.

GM wasn’t the only one mentioned genius and you talk a big game on GM for someone who bought one of their trucks.

All junk.

There are about 38 plug-in or battery-electrics on the U.S. market currently. It's not a secret how many people buy them. The market demand for THOSE models is well documented now, and frequently the 'Next New Thing' sells at higher numbers than in subsequent years. So... MAYBE the buyer pool for the models currently out is already close to it's maximum level.

When the product is not available yet, it is understandable that people are not buying. America wants big trucks and SUVs. Once they are there in EV mode, you will see that more and more will buy just like me. I will be buying once I can compare and sit in a Rivian and Hummer. Both are what I want, Not a Tesla, but a full size EV.

Because I’m sure you’ve talked to everyone in this country to make such a determination. Tell us how you know better than GM marketing. Tell us how you know better than Ford marketing. Tell us how you better than ANY car manufacturer, for that matter. This how you can make your statement ring true as opposed to it sounding completely and utterly full of s***, like any other time you mention EVs.

...and they say cars don't have souls.... I have a hair clipper, will travel...New meaning for the term "Doggy Style..." Slightly Political....

Another Corona victim...

Yes, but unlike some other electric mowers, these batteries can come out and be used for their other tools. Yes, the mower itself can be plugged in so you don't have to take them all out to charge.

Yikes about the Charger. I guess a person can look at wherever they live and see the list of which cars in their area are likely to be stolen. How sad that this could guide someone's purchasing decision to some extent. I'm guessing mid-80s Cutlass Supreme coupes are no longer on that list. LOL. They certainly were at one time. Twelve year old kid? How time flies. Unbelievable.

The whole thread was super helpful. My gas powered snow blower bit the dust years ago and I’ve just been shoveling manually since then. With the first 8” of snow on the ground here for the season, I said Eff this. I dug myself a path out, put the Avalanche in 4 low, and crawled to Lowe’s. I picked up the EGO snow blower. I also ended up ordering snow tires for the truck because I’m still rolling on the OEs and they are dry rotted. Even with tread they are awful in the white stuff. So now Gus will be getting new Blizzaks on Dec 27th.

My ski slope is only 90 minutes from me. We’re getting blasted with snow today. 8 to 10 inches total expected here in the city. More out at 7 Springs.

@David, just like we were talking about the other day, EGO just dropped information on a battery powered zero turn. The best part about it, imo, the batteries can also be used in the hand tools! It holds up to 6 batteries, comes with 4. https://egopowerplus.com/worththewait

Thanks for letting me post up a bunbch fo cars...cars make me happy...crappy rainy day here in Columbus...world could use some happiness.

Obvious one off....

B-17 Wee Willy after being hit.... Plane had 128 missions under her belt when she got hit... Scale model of USS Louisiana... Cadillac! Cadillac, once more...

Stranger things have happened... Ranger doing it's thing....not mine... New Zealand Pontiac Ventura bubble top. The class struggle is real....

Well there's one sold.

Is this the same "GM Marketing" department that oversaw a market share drop from ~40% to ~18%? *scoff*