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    I also want to make it clear that I dont think of the early automobile pioneers as shysters. Nor do I think Musk is a shyster either. The products to be sold are/were always available for the consumer to buy. Yes...the Model 3 will eventually be delivered...a shyster would be if Musk collected the deposit money and skipped town...he obviously has not done that. And...what Tesla says what their cars will do performance wise...they cars deliver on that promised performance...so there is no shysterism there either. I just like to even the playing field regarding certain thought processes....that is all! Why would this bother you? Obviously the people that listened to Musk's speeches recently regarding price, options and delivery dates and did not agree, already canceled and are in the process of canceling now. But many did not cancel...the majority... And others took their place...the Model 3 still has around 400 000 pre-orders give or take.
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    As much as a shyster that Durant or Ford ever were....or even Delorean later on.....or any other Detroit personality in the automobile industry since the beginning...minus the few engineers, coach builders and race drivers that made a difference...but the ones involved in the money part....yeah...shysters...stealing, backstabbing, cheating, lying, extorting... If you gonna hate...at least hate EQUALLY!!!
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    I am not one of those 400 000 Tesla sheeple! The ones that were not Tesla sheeple did cancel their orders... But...when one fool ends up changing their mind, another one takes its place... Even now after all of Elon's warnings that delivery will take long and not all options will be available right away...Tesla still losing millions...yada yada yada...people are still giving deposits to own sometime in the near future, the Model 3... Yes...Tesla sheeple get excited when Elon is telling them about possible EV pick-up trucks and 18 wheelers and another CUV yet ignore that their 1000 dollar deposit on their Model 3 that already has been cashed in wont come to fruition in another 1.5-2 years possibly 3 years... Buick and Ford and even Mercedes cant afford such buffoonery... THAT is the difference... Will THAT ever become old?
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    And Im saying it will start at 35 000! I am also saying that not too many will be available at that price... I also said that about Ford...and its ecoboost pushing... Tesla aint that different than anyboby else is alls Im saying... Why now...would we be chastising Tesla for an industry wide affair?
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    They will start at 35 000... How many will be produced to be available to be sold at that price is another thing all together... The majority of them will be sold at higher than 35 000...sure! But why would that be a negative? Part of that would be because not too many 35 000 dollar priced Model 3s will be available....but...I dont think the majority of Tesla buyers gives a shyte how much the Model 3 ends up costing them...and I think Elon knows this so he will milk as much money as he can outta the Tesla sheeple... The ones that dont want to spend the coin to drive a Tesla and just for the badge do have options... It is called the Bolt or the Leaf, at the moment as only Chevy and Nissan offer viable and compelling products as of now that directly compete with the Model 3 somewhat... Why would any of this be bad?
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    Ride sharing will never be a thing... Just a glimpse of that ride sharing future...UBER's license to operate in London, England was revoked a couple of days ago on the account that https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2017-09-22/london-authority-revokes-uber-s-private-hire-license Any ride sharing company risks of getting their asses handed to them if they dont co-operate... Any more regs forced upon ride sharing companies and they just become a regular taxi service...and ride sharing companies dont want any regs...so...they continue to operate in that grey zone and London wont be the ONLY city in the world with cojones to stop ANY ride sharing bullshyte! There has ALWAYS been ride sharing...this aint nothing new... New York City is famous for it! And its just a taxi service.. We all know how popular taxi services are outside of NYC... Uber undercut taxi prices...THAT is the ONLY way it became popular...not hard to do when no municipal or State government imposes a HUUUUUGE operator's license fee on Uber drivers as it does on a regular taxi service... Add to that no Uber driver reports income...at least in the beginning...but as governments at any level stop being stupid and naive and blind to false income claims....and will be jailing ride sharing drivers for tax evasion... And no...an app on a smart phone was not revolutionary.... Speed dial does the same thing... A phone call at the taxi center followed by a CB communication between driver and center relayed the same approx. pick-up time... This method still works as I call my food delivery service headquarters and they in turn get info the way I explained...with GPS locations on the truck...but they do call the driver...no the info is not on my smart phone...but yet...this way is how ONSTAR works for destination turn by turn directions, non? Sorry about the above rant... I hates the notion of car sharing...and I ALWAYS come up with a new angle of why it will NEVER work.
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    Well... Tesla's, Ford's and GM's stock worth aint really representative of their respective profits... Mark Fields was fired... Investors are questioning Ford and GM's future and both companies are full line car makers... Tesla's Musk gives those investors vapor ware...they applaud... 'Positive mojo' may evaporate. Or it may not... As of now...in the short term at least...Ford NEEDS to get a 100% EV out there....ecoboost is not setting Wallstreet in fire.... At least GM has the Bolt... So...yeah...even with all that profit that the F-150 generates...if the Model 3 makes Tesla profit and then the consequent affordable CUV...Ford maybe need of a Tesla take-over as SMK suggested... Just playing Devil's advocate because I dont believe all the bolded part that I wrote in this last post!!! The other stuff is plain reality of what is going on...
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    Well.. Id say Ford has the bigger pressures! Mark Fields was responsible for some of the most profitable years in Ford's history actually. But...Fields was fired... Fields traveled to Silicon Valley to see what is happening there to at least emulate Silicon Valley thoughts over at Dearborn, even acquired or partnered up with Silicon Valley companies to not fall behind Silicon Valley thoughts...even recruited Silicon Valley philosophers...yet got fired because New York Wallstreet sharks have no trust in the Detroit boys what so ever. Tesla is a Silicon Valley giant...investors dont ask questions...honestly...I dont think they ever will ask questions in the same way those same investors never asked questions on Detroit when Detroit was King of the Technology hill in America once upon a time ago pre-2008!!!
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    I failed to acknowledge this was a report from CR... Although I wont change my stance on what I wrote....I agree with this totally... I HATE CR... (that emoticon will have to do as there are none for CR...and because while Toyota was recalling their garbage...oil sludged Camrys, cracked and rusted pick-up truck frames, unintended accleration Lexus...CR STILL kept on recommending shytty Toyotas!) Crappy reporting on ANYTHING they test...not only cars...Just utter bullshyte!
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    For a 40 000 dollar Chevrolet that is principally a high tech machine...Id say the Bolt is pretty great in how GM did the interior. Material wise, tolerance wise... Id say even better than how Tesla did theirs in relation to the Tesla's 70 000 dollar price tag. In short, I think the Bolt does a better job representing its 40 000 dollar price tag on the interior than Tesla does (on the interior) representing the Model S' 70 000 dollar price tag. That is just my humble opinion. And yes I have experience with a Tesla Model S. P85D to be exact. No...not the fully full-on luxury optioned one...but the more or less basic interior options... My business partner owns one. I see it daily. I drive it on occasion for shytes and giggles. I LOVE IT!!! I would purchase and Im considering heavily on getting myself a Model 3... maybe...we have a long ways to go before I trade in my current car and by that time...maybe other 100% EVs from other manufacturers might be available by then...but to reassure you folk, as of now, Id rather a Model 3 that aint even out yet to the Bolt... But...when I discuss...I at least want to be as truthful as I can...
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    Actually, I disagree about HD truck owners not caring... Manufacturers of Pick-Up trucks and full sized SUVs have gotten a free ride regarding emissions, gas consumption, gas guzzler tax and the like... Manufacturers used those loop holes to continue to produce full sized trucks the way they used to do it with BOF full sized cars....some gas saving technology ended up going into these BOF full sized trucks as the V8s used in them also went into some of their passenger cars which WERE and STILL ARE SUBJECTED to strict gas consumption rules... Would-be owners of these BOF full sized trucks were NEVER subjected to lose money DIRECTLY from their pockets...they did when their BOF cars were subjected to these rules...for those that switched from cars to trucks that is...but NOT those that were ALWAYS truck guys... But...hit the BOF full sized truck owners in their pockets like how BOF car owners were in the 1970s and I assure you with great confidence and ARROGANCE that these proud owners of BOF full sized trucks wont be so lovey dovey with their BOF full sized trucks anymore... Those Escalade driving soccer moms and cowboy wannabe dudes in their Longhorn Rams and Denali GMCs and King Ranch F Series will think twice before making such an expensive purchase that will now affect them DIRECTLY... And then there is the fleet owners...a fleet of these gas guzzling things where 1-2 MPG difference could mean (hundreds of?) thousands of dollars over the course of the life expectancy of the fleets... In a land (United States of America) where dollars and cents on the bottom line is ALL that matters and that dollars and cents on the bottom line is ALWAYS calculated and factored in...yeah...I think this matters and WILL make a difference...
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    Can the same thing be said about Ford when Ford did the same thing upon the release of the 2013 Ford Fusion? They offered the base 2.5 liter engine choice but limited those to fleet sales and pushed the 1.6 ecoboost upon the consumers...which obviously the 1.6 ecoboost had a higher price tag than the 2.5... We know that the 1.6 liter ecoboost is not a 'gotta have now' engine choice...so we could conclude Ford wanted to push the ecoboost moniker... We also know that with the Mustang...the tried and true V6 was also offered but limited to fleet sales and pushed ecoboost upon the consumers...up until finally Ford just recently killed the V6 altogether. We know with Lincoln ditching the Twin Force moniker and keeping the same ecoboost moniker and with the arrival of the Ford GT that Ford put all their eggs in the ecoboost basket... Ecoboost...even with the might of the Ford GT engineering behind it....aint a 'gotta have now' technology. Maybe Ford is not as dependent on ecoboost to survive as Tesla is on the Model 3...I dont see this as a negative for Tesla if it aint a negative for Ford... And to my best knowledge...ALL HIGH END GERMAN makes do the same thing as Tesla just did...reminiscent of nickeling and diming tactics... BMW to Mercedes to Audi... Porsche takes this to a HIGHER level...not only do they nickel and dime the consumer, but they also charge even HIGHER prices for DE-CONTENTING options and ELIMINATING materials for lesser weight all in the name of selling you a "light, raw, back-to-basics" performance machine... What is good for the goose MUST be good for the gander... If this tactic will help Tesla be profitable and put some distance between the Model S and 3 and possibly make the Tesla sheeple fall head over heels even MORE for Tesla products...I say what the hell???!!! Good luck to Tesla!!!
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    I like the look of the Model S. The re-freshed one with the new nose. The older front end has gotten stale and out-dated. The silhouette is still slippery and sleek. Despite the design being on sale now for 5 years, it holds its own in sexiness. Its got that fast-back look that says "speed"! Albeit Id prefer if Tesla would re-freshen the back end as they did with the front end just a tad just for change's sake. Honestly...there arent any pure 100% EVs out there to truly compare it to in looks still in 2017...(in its price range and EV range and position in the market place...a Chevy Bolt perhaps...but a Chevy Bolt is not a sports sedan in the high end of the luxury world of cars... No...it does not have jelly bean looks... The car is rounded, yes...cars have NOT been square since the 1980s...and even then, rounded cars were starting then...Ford Taurus anyone... The 1990s Caprice was a jelly bean...the Taurus had 2-3 generations of jellybean-ess to them......the 1992 Pontiac Grand Am was totally jellybean...today's cars...not so much... Hell...Id argue...if we gonna go down the jellybean road...that the GM GMT360 SUV is jellybean... (yes...these are Oldsmobile Bravadas in reality...the Chevy version hides the rounded areas, unlike the Oldsmobile versions where Oldsmobile, Buick and SAAB embrace the curves) Actually...the Model S sedan kinda reminds me of the late 1960s GM A-Body fastback muscle car coupes both in silhouette and 3/4 view fastback styling. Obviously I am not trying to say that both cars are the same...but in style, purpose, sleekness the share the same qualities Both even have above the rear wheels, accented fenders... The Olds442 is rounded all around...but NOBODY DARES call the Olds a jellybean shape though...
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    Yeah....well...I personally wouldnt trust any car coming from Germany either...some pretty shady stuff coming outta Germany too ya know... http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/03/04/global-recall-1-million-mercedes-cars-fire-risk-could-include/ http://www.autonews.com/article/20170303/OEM11/170309916/mercedes-to-recall-1-million-newer-vehicles-globally-after-51-fires https://www.autoblog.com/2017/03/04/million-mercedes-benz-recall-fire-risk/
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    He would burn those down too....engine oil sludge problems...that Toyota totally blamed the owners...
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    Dont feel stupid. Welcome to my world I say! I do that all the time.
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    Oh...nice truck. I would never do anything to offend anyone! I just like to entertain from time to time. You could tell Seabass to kick my ass if you did not approve of the joke on top!
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    Chrysler Aspin, huh? Do beautiful women instinctively flock like the salmon of Capistrano upon the sight of a Chrysler Aspin? All I know is that John Denver is full of shyte, man!
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    This is what I LOVE about French cars. They do it their own way! I celebrate with 3 French songs that are funky! Just like their cars. OK...a 4rth
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    And quite honestly...a luxury muscle car that aint even a cop car like its Charger cousin aint exactly gonna reel them in. There is a reason why the 300 SRT went away in the first place... What a role reversal...when the LX cars were first introduced, 'twas the Bentley like 300 that was all the rage...and the wanna-be gangsta folk all went bananas for them...but when the cops started driving Chargers, twas the Charger that became cool..that would also be ironic as wanna-be gangsta folk advertised thuggery and criminality...and now the LX cop car that symbolizes the law is on top...
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    This car shoulda been introduced if not with the Dodge Hellcats...last year with the Grand Cherokee version. Not to say that the 300 Hellcat wont be MY choice for 4 door version, because instantly...I want this car as bad as I want the Challenger Hellcat... With a catch... At least if Chrysler could make the 300 Hellcat in AWD form...from the Jeep, you know, to differentiate it from the Dodge Brothers...and a little closer for it being more upscale type deal...
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    Ill just amp up my game a little bit more...
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    @Drew Dowdell Sorry because I will derail it again...but I gotta post this. I just gotta. The reason for the G Wagon is to appease NATO régulations... For decades the US shoved this shyte airplane down Germany's throat Its payback time for Germany to force the US Military to buy the G Wagen...all in the name of NATO...and revenge... OK...back to the boring discussions of a Hyundai luxury car.
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    Lazy rivers...HA! YOU actually posted a rugged tough SUV that is supposed to be military tough in a LAZY river... You just filled up the whole card with that one pic as you were trying to pass that off as a dangerous and tough SUV thing... Therefore
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