New York 2018: 2019 Mercedes-Benz C-Class Coupe and Cabriolet Follow in the Sedan's Footsteps: Comments

[William Maley]

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Mercedes-Benz used the Geneva Motor Show to introduce an updated version of the C-Class sedan. Next week at the New York Auto Show, Mercedes will follow this up with the introduction of the 2019 C-Class coupe and cabriolet.

The exterior is slightly re-worked with a new grille and LED head and taillights. C43 models feature more prominent diffuser and circular exhaust tips at the rear.  Inside, all C-Class coupes and cabriolets get a larger 10.25-inch infotainment screen as standard. A 12.3-inch digital instrument cluster is available as an option.

The C 300's turbocharged 2.0L four-cylinder sees a slight boost in horsepower from 241 to 255. On the other end, the C43's 3.0L twin-turbo V6 sees horsepower bumped from 362 to 385. 

On the safety front, the C-Class coupe and cabriolet can be optioned with the Intelligent Drive suite of driver assistance technologies. This includes adaptive cruise control, blind spot monitoring, lane keep assist, land change assist, active steering assist, and automatic emergency braking.

Like the 2019 C-Class sedan, the coupe and cabriolet will be available at Mercedes dealers later this year.

Source: Mercedes-Benz
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The new C-Class Coupe and Cabriolet

• The two-door C-Class models are now even sportier

Mar 20, 2018 – Stuttgart: Just a few weeks after the world premiere of the newly updated C-Class sedan and wagon, the two-door version of the C-Class appears in top form with the redesigned coupe and cabriolet. Sportiness and driving pleasure have been enhanced with a sharper design, digital cockpit and new, more powerful engines. The new, efficient four-cylinder engine on the C 300 and C 300 4MATIC models and upgraded AMG-enhanced 3.0-liter V6 in the Mercedes-AMG C 43 4MATIC underscore the dynamic nature of this highly emotional and appealing C-Class model. The redesigned 2019 C- Class Coupe and Cabriolet will be celebrating their World Premiere at the New York International Auto Show in March 2018 and will go on sale in the U.S. by late 2018.

The secret of the C-Class's success is partly due to the wide model range, also including two sporty two-door versions: the coupe, launched at the end of 2015, and the cabriolet, launched in 2016, each address the heart and mind in equal measure.

Shortly after the redesigned C-Class Sedan was introduced, the two-door models too are benefiting from extensive revisions. The most important enhancements at a glance:

• New four-cylinder engine for sporty driving pleasure with high efficiency
• Advancement of the sporty design in particular at the front and tail end, new light-alloy wheels, new colors
• Standard LED High Performance headlamps with new design; optional LED Intelligent headlamps with ULTRA WIDE Highbeam
• Enhanced interior with larger central media display equipped as standard (10.25 inches), optionally available digital instrument cluster (12.3 inches) and new multifunction steering wheel with Touch Control Buttons. Many opportunities for individualization, e.g. through new Natural Grain trim elements
• Future-oriented driving assistance systems from Mercedes-Benz with S-Class functions and cooperative driver support

Sport plus efficiency: new four-cylinder

The following C-Class Coupe and models are available:

Coupe	C 300	C 300 4MATIC	AMG C 43
Cylinders/arrangement	4/in-line	4/in-line	6/V
Displacement (cc)	1,991	1,991	2,996
Output (hp)	255	255	385
at rpm	5,800-6,100	5,800-6,100	6,100
Max. torque (lb-ft)	273	273	384
at rpm	1,800-4,000	1,800-4,000	2,500-5,000
Acceleration 0-60 mph (s)	5.9 est.	5.9 est.	4.5 est.
Top speed (mph) (electronically limited)	130	130	130
Cabriolet	C 300	C 300 4MATIC	AMG C 43
Cylinders/arrangement	4/in-line	4/in-line	6/V
Displacement (cc)	1,991	1,991	2,996
Output (hp)	255	255	385
at rpm	5,800-6,100	5,800-6,100	6,100
Max. torque (lb-ft)	273	273	384
at rpm	1,800-4,000	1,800-4,000	2,500-5,000
Acceleration 0-60 mph (s)	6.1 est.	6.2 est.	4.6 est.
Top speed (mph) (electronically limited)	130	130	130

More powerful, more efficient engine

The 2019 Mercedes-Benz C-Class Coupe and Cabriolet will also benefit from a new 2.0-liter inline-4 turbo engine that produces 255 hp (vs. 241 previously), an increase in 14 hp, and 273 lb-ft of torque. The Coupe and Cabriolet are also equipped with a 9G-TRONIC 9-speed automatic transmission that affords a dynamic driving experience.

Mercedes-AMG: More performance for the C 43

With a multitude of carefully coordinated measures the AMG developers have enhanced the vehicle dynamics even further. The AMG-enhanced 3.0-liter V6 engine now produces 385 hp (vs. 362 hp previously), an increase in 23 hp. The peak torque of 384 lb-ft is available in a wide engine speed range from 2,500 to 5,000 rpm. The new C 43 Coupe accelerates from a standstill to 60 mph in 4.5 seconds (estimated), and the Cabriolet in 4.6 seconds (estimated).

4MATIC all-wheel drive: Traction even in difficult road conditions

At market launch the C 300 is available with 4MATIC permanent all-wheel drive for improved traction and driving stability, especially in adverse road conditions. The 4MATIC has an active all-wheel torque distribution of 45 % to the front and 55 % to the rear. As ever, the combination of the ESP® driving dynamics control system with the 4ETS electronic traction system makes regular differential locks superfluous. This saves weight and noticeably improves handling safety as well as ride comfort.

The all-wheel drive is standard equipment for the Mercedes-AMG C 43, and features rear-biased torque distribution with a front/rear axle split of 31 to 69 percent.

More dynamic design and LED High Performance headlamps as standard

The newly redesigned C-Class combines emotion with intelligence. The vehicle's appearance is defined in particular by its front and tail end and the design of the headlamps and taillamps.

The front design exudes sportiness at first glance. Powerful styling elements such as the new bumper and the standard-fit diamond radiator grille lend the two-door C-Class models an individual character. The standard-fit LED High Performance headlamps have a new design that lends an especially distinctive appearance. For the first time in this model series, LED Intelligent headlamps with ULTRA WIDE high beam are additionally available (see below for details).

The rear appears broad and agile, thanks to dynamic details and a standard-fit two-pipe exhaust system. A particular highlight both day and night are the revised, more accentuated all-LED taillamps.

The sporty design features are heightened with the AMG Line. For example, the AMG Line exterior includes the diamond radiator grille with chrome pins plus an AMG-specific front bumper with new geometry, sporty air intakes and its chromed trim element. The exterior with the Night Package sports an even more athletic look with its black design features. These include the black trim elements in the AMG front bumper and the AMG rear bumper plus exterior mirror housings painted in high-gloss black.

The paint color spectrum has also been broadened. New colors are Mojave Silver Metallic and – exclusively for the coupe and cabriolet within the C-Class family: Graphite Grey.

Digital cockpit

The sporty interior with its individual integral-look seats is characterized by further-enhanced perceived quality and flowing shapes and the facelift takes it into the digital era.

The center console is characterized by an elegant flowing trim element with new materials: Natural Grain Brown Walnut or Natural Grain Grey Oak.
Magma Grey/Black are newly available as interior colors.

The KEYLESS-GO starting function is standard. The start/stop button comes in a new turbine-look design. The vehicle key also features a new design.

On the cabriolet, the soft top can be operated from the outside with the vehicle key and the "Open/Close" buttons.

An eye on the future: fully digital instrument cluster available as an option

The standard multimedia display above the center console has a 10.25-inch screen. The C-Class also features a new optional, fully-digital instrument cluster with the three visually distinguishable styles "Classic," "Sport" and "Progressive," which also transform the look of the central display when equipped with this option.

The C-Class has touch-sensitive controls in the steering wheel that respond to swiping motions like the screen of a smartphone. They enable the driver to control the functions of the instrument cluster and of the entire infotainment system without having to take their hands off the steering wheel. The operation of DISTRONIC and cruise control with controls directly on the steering wheel is another new feature.

The infotainment system can additionally be operated via the touchpad with controller (new: haptic feedback) in the center console or by means of voice control. Vehicle functions such as the seat heating can now also be voice controlled. The optional head-up display is now adjustable over an even wider range.

Future-oriented assistance systems on a par with the S-Class

The new C-Class features the latest Mercedes-Benz driving assistance systems offering the driver cooperative support, and therefore provides a higher level of active safety than its predecessor. The C-Class is able to drive semi- autonomously in certain situations. To do this it keeps a close eye on the traffic situation: improved camera and radar systems allow it to see up to approximately 1,640 feet (500 m) ahead. The vehicle's surroundings are scanned by radar across a distance of up to approximately 820 feet (250 m) to the front, 130 feet (40 m) to the sides and 260 feet (80 m) to the rear, while with the camera a range of up to 1,640 feet (500 m) is possible to the front, including 295 feet (90 m) in 3D.

The C-Class also uses map and navigation data for assistance functions. For example, Active Distance Assist DISTRONIC as part of the Driver Assistance Package is able to give the driver map-based support in numerous situations, and predictively adjust the speed e.g. when approaching bends, junctions or roundabouts. Other new developments include intuitively understandable Active Lane Change Assist and Active Emergency Stop Assist as new functions of Active Steering Assist.

The new C-Class comes with extended Active Brake Assist as standard. Depending on the situation, this can help to mitigate the consequences of rear- end collisions with slow-moving, stopping or stationary vehicles ahead, and even with crossing pedestrians and cyclists, or prevent them altogether.

LED Intelligent headlamps: Optimum visibility in all conditions

LED Intelligent headlamps are new and available on request in the coupe and cabriolet. These allow electronically controlled adjustment of the headlamps to suit the current traffic situation.

In high-beam mode, Adaptive Highbeam Assist Plus enables continuous long- range illumination of the road ahead. When no other road user is detected, the road ahead is straight and the vehicle speed is above 25 mph, ULTRA WIDE high beam is switched on automatically. When there are oncoming vehicles or vehicles ahead, the high beam is automatically switched off. The ULTRA WIDE high beams are always active only if high beam mode has been manually switched on.

The multimedia systems: Tailor-made information and music offerings

The C-Class comes as standard featuring Apple CarPlayTM and Android Auto smartphone integration, two USB ports, an SD card reader, Bluetooth connection and media interface.

The latest-generation COMAND Navigation available as optional equipment offers fast 3D hard-disc navigation with topographical map display, photo- realistic 3D buildings and 3D map rotations. Comprehensive information is displayed on the navigation map: in addition to real-time traffic density information it can e.g. include Car-to-X warning messages, the weather, filling stations including current fuel prices and free parking spaces.

With the Concierge service (included for one year in conjunction with COMAND, and available as a subscription service thereafter), Mercedes me connect customers have a host of individual services at their disposal: from making restaurant reservations and obtaining tips about tourist routes, to gathering information on cultural or sporting events and sending navigation destinations directly to the vehicle.

The C-Class uses NFC technology

Mobile devices corresponding to the Qi standard can be charged conveniently while on the move with the optional wireless charging system. The charging surface in the quick stowage tray at the front of the center console is also suitable for large smartphones.

Both C-Class Coupe and Cabriolet models are produced at the Mercedes-Benz Bremen plant. The redesigned 2019 C-Class Coupe and Cabriolet will be celebrating their World Premiere at the New York International Auto Show in March 2018 and will go on sale in the U.S. by late 2018.

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[smk4565]

Everyone likes LED lights, more power and bigger screens, so nice little improvements. 

[David]

What a BLAND auto, no Passion at all! 

[oldshurst442]

19 hours ago, smk4565 said:

Everyone likes LED lights, more power and bigger screens, so nice little improvements. 

More power is the only thing I like in your list there.

LED lights?

Cool, I guess. Neat feature. Like chrome trim was back in the day. But it aint something that makes or breaks a deal for me.

Bigger screens?

The only bigger screen I want is bigger windows so I could see where the phoque Im driving...because I actually...um...drive. I like to look out the damned window when I.....um....drive.  Im not into TV screens on my console. I prefer buttons. No...I dont talk to my car to turn on the heat. I talk to my wife to turn HER heat on if you know what I mean...

So...the more power part is the only thing I like.  The only thing I get excited for. That and when I get my wife excited...SHE still turns me on!  

 

Edited March 22, 2018 by oldshurst442

[Robert Hall]

1 hour ago, dfelt said:

What a BLAND auto, no Passion at all! 

A RWD 2dr convertible has 'no passion'??   BS.   Cadillac needs something like this...something fun instead of more boring, bland transverse engine FWD CUV lease appliances....

Edited March 22, 2018 by Cubical-aka-Moltar

[oldshurst442]

3 minutes ago, Cubical-aka-Moltar said:

A RWD 2dr convertible has 'no passion'??   BS.   Cadillac needs something like this...something fun instead of more boring, bland transverse engine FWD CUV lease appliances....

Or at the very least, some CUVs and SUVs that have sporty intentions...

BMW and Mercedes offers those too...even though I dont like ANY CUV or SUV short of a Wrangler, I do recognize trends in the market place...

[Robert Hall]

3 minutes ago, oldshurst442 said:

Or at the very least, some CUVs and SUVs that have sporty intentions...

BMW and Mercedes offers those too...even though I dont like ANY CUV or SUV short of a Wrangler, I do recognize trends in the market place...

And BMW and M-Bs SUVs are RWD/AWD SUVs, not generic FWD/AWD transverse engine CUV appliances...(not talking about the entry level shit like the X1 and GLA, but the good stuff).  GM doesn't even have a RWD/AWD SUV unibody platform; so Cadillac gets stuck with the FWD/AWD transverse engine CUV appliances..

Edited March 22, 2018 by Cubical-aka-Moltar

[David]

19 minutes ago, Cubical-aka-Moltar said:

A RWD 2dr convertible has 'no passion'??   BS.   Cadillac needs something like this...something fun instead of more boring, bland transverse engine FWD CUV lease appliances....

It is all yours, never got the convertible thing, does nothing for me. I have to laugh at the waste of seats in the rear as you can see they are useless when any real person drives and then they pull them up to make the rear headrests look like big space from the front headrests and yet they are then so close to the dash which means only small people can drive the car.

As far as the look goes, BLAND, Dash just looks cheap and as I said your welcome to the Convertible thing, and all the skin cancer that goes with it. Just never saw or got the convertible thing even when riding in them, no big deal to me, but I do acknowledge that to others they love that open air driving.

MEH, I take an MB CUV over this every day!

[Robert Hall]

We know, you can only appreciate vehicles that can seat NBA players or NFL linebackers.  You can't seem to comprehend that not everyone wants or needs a 6000lb SUV.

[oldshurst442]

12 minutes ago, Cubical-aka-Moltar said:

We know, you can only appreciate vehicles that can seat NBA players or NFL linebackers.  You can't seem to comprehend that not everyone wants or needs a 6000lb SUV.

I dont  need or want a 6000 lbs SUV.

I do however want a 6000 lbs sedan or coupe. I dont need that either. But I want one. 

But Ill take a small convertible if anybody offered me one. 

 

*SIGH*

Cadillac does NOT offer a car like this Benz though, so my choices are limited if I wanted to spend  a good chunk of my money on a small convertible and I wanted a luxury oriented convertible. Sure there is the Camaro convertible, but I want to buy something from a luxury brand....

Yup...Benz it is! 

So yeah...I  too call bullshyte MR. DFELT on the C Class convertible lacking passion!

PS: It dont matter if the dash "looks" cheap...

The 3 pointed Star up front is what counts...THAT is THE point!

 

 

 

Edited March 22, 2018 by oldshurst442

[balthazar]

I hate the rear end of the c-class; THAT at least is unquestionably bland, plus I get a strong toyota solara vibe off it. The rest of the car is fine, tho I wish MB would go back to distinguishing the noses on all their model lines from each other.

[Robert Hall]

15 minutes ago, balthazar said:

I hate the rear end of the c-class; THAT at least is unquestionably bland, plus I get a strong toyota solara vibe off it. The rest of the car is fine, tho I wish MB would go back to distinguishing the noses on all their model lines from each other.

They were going for a consistent rear end with their other 4 seat 2drs--E-class, S-class, AMG GT all have similar rounded tails with horizontal lights, for better or for worse... 

Edited March 22, 2018 by Cubical-aka-Moltar

[ccap41]

1 hour ago, dfelt said:

It is all yours, never got the convertible thing, does nothing for me. I have to laugh at the waste of seats in the rear as you can see they are useless when any real person drives and then they pull them up to make the rear headrests look like big space from the front headrests and yet they are then so close to the dash which means only small people can drive the car.

As far as the look goes, BLAND, Dash just looks cheap and as I said your welcome to the Convertible thing, and all the skin cancer that goes with it. Just never saw or got the convertible thing even when riding in them, no big deal to me, but I do acknowledge that to others they love that open air driving.

MEH, I take an MB CUV over this every day!

It's ironic that you defend the size of the 4 door ATS and how absurdly small the back seat is yet you get on a 2 door convertible for its back seat space.. go on.. 

LOL serously?!?! your defense for not wanting a convertible is mo-fckn SKIN CANCER?!? GTFO. 

Edited March 22, 2018 by ccap41

[Robert Hall]

15 minutes ago, ccap41 said:

It's ironic that you defend the size of the 4 door ATS and how absurdly small the back seat is yet you get on a 2 door convertible for its back seat space.. go on.. 

LOL serously?!?! your defense for not wanting a convertible is mo-fckn SKIN CANCER?!? GTFO. 

Yeah, his obsession w/ full size SUVs and slagging on cars about rear seat room gets so one-note and tiresome...

[ccap41]

13 minutes ago, Cubical-aka-Moltar said:

Yeah, his obsession w/ full size SUVs and slagging on cars about rear seat room gets so one-note and tiresome...

His posts are as predictable as they get. Every car thread gets the same comments, every SUV thread gets the same comments, and everything needs to be EV. Rinse and repeat. 

[Drew Dowdell]

I really like this Benz... probably the best looking option in the respective segments, though those segments are rather thin.  I would put the Infiniti Q60 as a very close second place for coupes.   If Genesis ever does a G70 Coupe, it would also be an interesting entry. 

[oldshurst442]

The Infiniti Q60 has got to be the most prettiest car in its class. Its got lines that only Italian car designers could only achieve. And that is definitely a good thing.  

[David]

1 hour ago, ccap41 said:

It's ironic that you defend the size of the 4 door ATS and how absurdly small the back seat is yet you get on a 2 door convertible for its back seat space.. go on.. 

LOL serously?!?! your defense for not wanting a convertible is mo-fckn SKIN CANCER?!? GTFO. 

Being a skin cancer survivor and having my face redone makes one think twice about being in the sun and especially in a convertible, but like I said even before I had cancer I never got the convertible thing. The rear seats, why bother, just make is storage room and give the front seats that much more room to be adjustable.

1 hour ago, Cubical-aka-Moltar said:

Yeah, his obsession w/ full size SUVs and slagging on cars about rear seat room gets so one-note and tiresome...

Same as your obsession about cars.

Both of you do the same Shampoo, Rinse, Repeat!

1 hour ago, Drew Dowdell said:

I really like this Benz... probably the best looking option in the respective segments, though those segments are rather thin.  I would put the Infiniti Q60 as a very close second place for coupes.   If Genesis ever does a G70 Coupe, it would also be an interesting entry. 

But why bother with the back seats?

You could give so much more room to the front two people with more adjustable seat options if you just made that unusable seat area storage area. I never got that even in the tight pony cars.

[Drew Dowdell]

3 minutes ago, dfelt said:

But why bother with the back seats?

You could give so much more room to the front two people with more adjustable seat options if you just made that unusable seat area storage area. I never got that even in the tight pony cars.

Has to do with EPA classifications and such. That's why some cars like the FR-S/86 have back seats, but they're basically unusable. 

Plus, MB already has 2-seater convertibles. You can still put kids in the back seat of a C-Class Cabrio

[ccap41]

10 minutes ago, dfelt said:

Both of you do the same Shampoo, Rinse, Repeat!

That's not true at all. We enjoy more than 1 style of vehicle. 

[Drew Dowdell]

Lets keep away from the personal. 

[Robert Hall]

1 hour ago, Drew Dowdell said:

I really like this Benz... probably the best looking option in the respective segments, though those segments are rather thin.  I would put the Infiniti Q60 as a very close second place for coupes.   If Genesis ever does a G70 Coupe, it would also be an interesting entry. 

A Genesis coupe would be interesting.  I saw a Q60 up close and personal in a parking lot the other day, they really are sharp in person.  It was a medium/dark blue...lots of interesting contours.

Edited March 22, 2018 by Cubical-aka-Moltar

[Drew Dowdell]

7 minutes ago, Cubical-aka-Moltar said:

A Genesis coupe would be interesting.  I saw a Q60 up close and personal in a parking lot the other day, they really are sharp in person.  It was a medium/dark blue...lots of interesting contours.

Yes... this. Dark Blue is the color I'd pick also. 

It's been a long time since a Japanese car has caught my eye.  It was probably the original Infiniti G-coupe too. 

[Robert Hall]

I have a buddy in Denver that had a G37 coupe in a silver blue, was a sharp car..of all things, the manual transmission failed and had to be replaced under warranty..

The Q60 I saw looked like this..

Edit: this color is Iridium Blue.  They also have a light silver blue called Hagane Blue. 

 

Edited March 22, 2018 by Cubical-aka-Moltar

[Drew Dowdell]

1 minute ago, Cubical-aka-Moltar said:

I have a buddy in Denver that had a G37 coupe in a silver blue, was a sharp car..of all things, the manual transmission failed and had to be replaced under warranty..

The Q60 I saw looked like this..

 

 

[ccap41]

Speaking of Infiniti... Their Q50 Hybrid seems like one hell of a bargain on the used market. Makes me want one really bad. I really like the updated(whenever the current gen came out) styling and it seems like it'd be a fantastic daily driver. 

One example: Q50 Hybrid

The miles and price vary some but you could get in one for less than 25k with what I would still consider lower miles, <40k. 

Another: Another Q50 Hybrid

[frogger]

If I'm going used bang for buck daily entry lux sedan with ICE I'm not fond of, I would probably just get a CTS VSport and put up with CUE.  The MPG on the Infiniti would definitely nice with the gas prices as they are up here currently.

 

 

 

[Drew Dowdell]

I could totally daily an ATS V6 coupe if I lived a different life.

[ccap41]

Too bad Cadillac doesn't know how to design the rear 1/3 of a coupe. They call it quits at the end of the door and just sh!t all over the floor instead. 

[smk4565]

3 hours ago, Drew Dowdell said:

Has to do with EPA classifications and such. That's why some cars like the FR-S/86 have back seats, but they're basically unusable. 

Plus, MB already has 2-seater convertibles. You can still put kids in the back seat of a C-Class Cabrio

I am 6'2" and can sit in the back seat of an E-class convertible, it has a very usable back seat.  The C-class convertible rear seat is small, I think I tried sitting in one once and it is tight, more for kids, but at least it is there.  It is no worse than the 3rd row in most SUVs which can only fit kids.

[balthazar]

1 hour ago, ccap41 said:

Too bad Cadillac doesn't know how to design the rear 1/3 of a coupe. They call it quits at the end of the door and just sh!t all over the floor instead. 

[shudder]

 

THIS, while not especially remarkable, is 1000 times more appealing :

Edited March 22, 2018 by balthazar

[ccap41]

4 hours ago, balthazar said:

[shudder]

 

THIS, while not especially remarkable, is 1000 times more appealing :

Based 100% on looks, I’d take the rear end of the Infiniti. 

The ATS Coupe does look way better than the last CTS Coupe. Boy did I hate that thing. 

[David]

22 minutes ago, ccap41 said:

Based 100% on looks, I’d take the rear end of the Infiniti. 

The ATS Coupe does look way better than the last CTS Coupe. Boy did I hate that thing. 

ATS V beats Infiniti

The lower you go the bigger any spoiler looks but when your right behind it, it looks well balanced and far better than the Jelly Bean Rear of the Infiniti.

[balthazar]

1 hour ago, ccap41 said:

Based 100% on looks, I’d take the rear end of the Infiniti.

Being brutally honest; I'm totally amazed by this.

[ykX]

7 hours ago, balthazar said:

Being brutally honest; I'm totally amazed by this.

I have to agree with @ccap41.  Looks wise I think Infiniti is much better, especially rear IMPO.

I like ATS sedan a lot but I never liked how they did the coupe personally.  I think the rear quarter looks very awkward.

Not crazy about the kink in the rear windows but otherwise the design and lines are much more cohesive in Q60.

Edited March 23, 2018 by ykX

[Robert Hall]

10 minutes ago, ykX said:

I have to agree with @ccap41.  Looks wise I think Infiniti is much better, especially rear IMPO.

I like ATS sedan a lot but I never liked how they did the coupe personally.  I think the rear quarter looks very awkward.

Not crazy about the kink in the rear windows but otherwise the design and lines are much more cohesive in Q60.

Toss in the Lexus RC, a bit busier styling and more detailing in the rear quarters..

 

[balthazar]

Interesting. To my eye, the Q60 looks like pieces from 10 different cars were glued together, with a thin coat of bondo to try and smooth out the seams. It's a bewildering array of disharmonious lines. Those little plastic 'mud flaps' behind the  wheels, the tacked-on scoop on the front fender, the way toyota couldn't be bothered to make the quarter window 'black out' match the shape of the glass - too many pieces/lines; it's hugely incohesive.

The lexus RC above (which could easily be from the same brand it's so remarkably similar) is noticably better... but we can't see either fascia from the profile view.

Like I stated- the ATS coupe isn't knocking socks off, but it's got a 'carved from one piece' look without being overwrought.

[ccap41]

8 hours ago, balthazar said:

Being brutally honest; I'm totally amazed by this.

Cadillac can't make pretty coupes. They haven't for quite awhile now and it's all in the rear 1/3 of the vehicle. 

1 hour ago, ykX said:

I have to agree with @ccap41.  Looks wise I think Infiniti is much better, especially rear IMPO.

I like ATS sedan a lot but I never liked how they did the coupe personally.  I think the rear quarter looks very awkward.

Not crazy about the kink in the rear windows but otherwise the design and lines are much more cohesive in Q60.

Yeah! It's everything behind the doors that is just botched. It's like the quit trying and just pulled the body back to the required distances and said, "it's done."

[Robert Hall]

Then you have the German 3.   Mercedes C-class, BMW 4 series, Audi A5.

 

[ccap41]

You could replace this flat and bland section with a part of their Silverado bed and you'd never know the difference(I hope you grasp the sarcasm). 

[ykX]

@Cubical-aka-Moltar Personally, not crazy about Germans as well. Audi is probably the worst offender.  

I think it is pretty hard to make a good looking coupe when the starting point a sedan. I think Q60 looks better mainly because the design is a bigger departure from Q50

[Drew Dowdell]

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[ccap41]

I agree with that order almost 100% except I'd throw the ATS behind all of them.. It's like an eye sore in the middle of all of those coupes(in that angle). 

[smk4565]

What is up with all these coupes with B-pillars?????

[ccap41]

Challenger does the B pillar best, it’s not there. I thought the Mustang was like that as well but it looks like it might be from that pic. 

[Robert Hall]

9 hours ago, ccap41 said:

Challenger does the B pillar best, it’s not there. I thought the Mustang was like that as well but it looks like it might be from that pic. 

It's there on the Challenger, hidden by the glass like on the ATS, Q60 and Mustang. 

Edited March 24, 2018 by Cubical-aka-Moltar

[balthazar]

MB came SO CLOSE but still had to 'cheap out' & have that little fixed quarter window there instead of engineering a pivoting pane. Like this: fully retractable side glass, no fixed panes ~

[Robert Hall]

8 minutes ago, balthazar said:

MB came SO CLOSE but still had to 'cheap out' & have that little fixed quarter window there instead of engineering a pivoting pane. Like this: fully retractable side glass, no fixed panes ~

 

The Cadillac had a long wheelbase that allowed for the window to drop down...the M-B wheelbase isn't long enough for that kind of clearance..

[oldshurst442]

Which reminds me...

My favorite car of all time is EXACTLY what you folk are kvetching about...(the wheelbase of MY favorite car of all time just ekes it out, I guess!) 

Oh YEAH!!!

I aint judging here..but none of those coupes hold a candle to MY favorite car of all time...

Wait a minute...I lied...here comes the JUDGE!

Edited March 24, 2018 by oldshurst442

[oldshurst442]

Its all about the roll-over safety.

Yes...yes...the M-B coupe's roof is engineered to not collapse in case of a roll-over....

I applaud the fact that Mercedes Benz went all out to make a pillar-less roof. Its a good thing in my book. 

But for modern coupes....

This is my #1 side profile that I prefer.

 

 

Tied with this guy

 

2nd place belongs to this guy

And then everybody else...

 

What I like about this guy

 

1. pillar-less roof line

2. Long hood, short deck styling. But they all do that...

3. That is about it. The lines are just as conservatively boring as the ATS coupe.   

If you noticed, the Infiniti, The Challenger anf the Mustang all have hips....I like hips. I like curvy. In my women and in my cars... 

The Mercedes Benz and the ATS are androgynous, sexless... 

Not my style man.  Not. My. Style. 

 

 

Edited March 24, 2018 by oldshurst442