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Yeah...Im guilty as "HELL" in rehashing the merits and the praises of the Hellcat. Im spellbound by her charms. She has got me in her sights and she simply wont let go of me. Im a prisoner of her love!

Id like to see hpw the CHEVROLET Bolt does in Texas too... Because the CHEVROLET Silverado does well in Texas...actually, ANY gas guzzling pick-up truck and full-sized BOF SUV does well in Texas... According to their logic, and we all know who "they" is....if the Bolt happens to flop in Texas, in which I have a funny feeling it will, will that mean that Chevrolet's electric car program should be ceased and desisted?

Dodge showroom... Ahem...MOPAR showroom... Oh and BLU... a 1977 Trans Am 6.6 liter 400 motor was crap..yeah I know...I pictured 1979 model...a 1979 model gained a tad more performance...still crap The torque part helped move the car...but...the car did not move fast enough...not enough to warrant all that gold striping and screaming chickens and scoops... By God dude...it wasnt a 455SD...now was it? 1973 Trans Am 455SD 0-60 about 5 seconds 1/4 mile about mid 13s @ 105 mph? Pretty respectable, even by today's insane performance stats... 1977 6.6 liter Trans Am 0-60 in like 11 seconds 1/4 mile in like 17 seconds... 1979 6.6 liter with the 220 Hp 320 ft/lbs torque....not too shabby...for 1979... 0-60 in about 7 seconds 1/4 mile in 15 seconds... Not too bad at all actually for the 1979 model... In any case though, concerning a Black and Gold Bandit Trans Am...all show and no go...considering a 1973 model with the same fender scoops and similar hood shakers blew the doors off its later year brethren...

Count me in on that thought as well. Money be damned on this level. CCAP and maybe even you have said this before... The 5.2 liter flat plane crank V8 is worth more than the price of admission for this car. Oh...Hellcat Challenger too...I would take over the Camaro... And he Hellcat is a beast on wheels. Not a light ballerina like the Camaro... Oh...and DAT straight line speed, the Hellcat just kills it!

And that is the argument both of you want to represent? In Montreal...where 100 000 dollar cars are not exactly a thing...because well, the money in Quebec...is not existent practically, and what little money some people do make...its taxed like you wouldnt believe...and yet...Tesla Model S are EVERYWHERE...P85Ds even...and only growing... And this is the part of the problem of Reg's argument... 100 000 dollar cars are a niche...a small niche Electric cars are an even smaller niche... Yet...the Model S has managed to outsell equivalent priced cars form Mercedes and BMW and Audi...and Cadillac... You say California? Well, its because California is electric car friendly...so is Quebec... Michigan is HOSTILE towards electric cars...so...I bet you Tesla does not fare well in Michigan... Try again...

And little Ocn would stand up and take notice if it was a hot smooth ripped Asian Man! BLU, your "where's the beef" avatar pic suits this situation perfectly... You know...Asian men..and small... Yeah, I think Mr. DFELT's assumption of your affection to Asian men and you asking where's the beef is quite accurate on Mr. DFELT's part.

lol if you can make them paint the hood body color or something like that mustang, or any mach 1 of the past, or ANY kind of striping that GM has done in the past. Again, that picture has body color all around the black and a pinstripe around it as well.. Still not the same. I see what you are saying CCAP...but the Hellcat does the same thing here...plus it has all kinds boy racer vents...sure functional, but very ricer... So...like I said, I UNDERSTAND what it is you are saying... The BIG question here is...could one actually say that the ORIGINAL ricer cars be the muscle cars? Big Wings... All show and no go decals... Wings again... Scoops? Muscle cars got plenty of those... All show and no go scoops in this muscle car...2 of them...

http://www.engineering.com/ElectronicsDesign/ElectronicsDesignArticles/ArticleID/8204/A-Hybrid-Electric-Camaro.aspx Another link. http://www.greencarreports.com/news/1083268_55000-kit-to-build-electric-chevrolet-offered-by-gm Hold on to a chair BLU...maybe even have a seat... Sponsored by... yet another link... http://www.autoblog.com/2011/08/12/electric-chevy-camaro-tears-down-1-4-mile-in-10-08-seconds/

You and I are always almost on the same page. And when we are not...its juts a couple of differing footnotes... I dont know how to respond to this emotion that you just opened up... On one hand, a Camaro, like a Corvette, should ALWAYS be about crude oil,on the other hand, time to grow up and put away childish things, time to put some real muscle into that power train....and nothing is more powerful than the anger of a God and his thunder bolts... Dead dinosaurs or I think its time for Camaro to start shoving lightning bolts down the Mustang's ass!!!

The Volt...1st generation...was built off the Cruze platform. The Delta II Yup...that is what competition does, it pushes anyone who wants to compete to be better. Everybody. The underdogs, the champs, the newbies, the veterans...everybody. Why are we always pushing Tesla out of the competition? Yes....GM, Porsche and other car manufacturers will make Tesla squirm with their new product coming out. But, isnt Tesla competent enough to counter with new engineering solutions of their own to put the hurt on GM, Porsche and others? All of a sudden, we are going in a direction where we are writing off Tesla's contributions and future engineering endeavors and finding comfort in the old guard' ways... GM...is CURRENTLY gonna recall 450 000 full sized pick-ups for faulty brake pedal assemblies....the brake pedals might fall off and well, that is a pile of not good... What does a recall have to do with this... Because...the old guard is just as susceptible and CAPABLE in fumbling the ball and just HANDING victory to its competition... Tesla, independent or not...is here to stay... And I would be betting my money on Tesla STAYING independent... Why? GM just announced that they will try to stretch the length of time in which they could use a platform... THAT may make others to follow suit... THAT BENEFITS Tesla a whole lot! Thanx for the links, I will read them later as Im off to work.

I may have been harsh with the half-ass comment....Im just a tad peeved that some of us cant have an adult conversation about EVs without resorting to adolescent thoughts of renouncing a car company and especially a technology that is actually the future. What I did mean about half-ass is that Tesla builds a DEDICATED electric car platform, Chevrolet adapts a regular gasoline powered platform for their full on electric car. The only way I can actually say that a 30-40 thousand all electric vehicle could destabilize Tesla's Model 3 is if General Motors actually engineered the Bolt like Tesla is with the Model 3... IE: A bespoke platform... Imagine how much better a Bolt could be? Yes I know...there are many ways one could engineer something that will yield the same results... Problem is.... Tesla is actually the bench mark here. The Model 3 is what the Bolt needs to beat.Not the other way around. General Motors does not have a Model S competitor... No...not ludicrous speed electric sedan... But 200 mile plus range that seats 5 in comfort electric sedan... As many as SUVs GM sells, none are pure electric... Tesla, has one... Congrats for GM for getting a small econobox style all out EV to sell... Tesla has 2 EVs out...and a third coming. We could all find problems with gull wing doors on that SUV, but as of now...it is the ONLY game in town... We could all find problems with a lacking EV product for the masses, one that GM beat Tesla to the market...however, s much as I think the Bolt will sell, I think many will wait until Tesla comes out with the Model 3... Why? Because Tesla has got game! Tesla is fast becoming synonymous with electric cars... Kinda like Coke, Kleenex, Windex, Vaseline, Aspirin, BandAid, Xerox... In a very short time, Tesla rolls of the mouths of people... While its true, financing and manufacturing new platforms for vehicles is vastly expensive, and I understand the fear for Tesla folding because of...those reasons... But...their cars have to magically be NOT desirable for people to stop buying them in order for that to happen. And...their competition needs cars to compete with them... So far....there arent any cars to compete DIRECTLY with Tesla... The Bolt? Sure... But...what if the Model 3 cleans the Bolt's pipes? What if...the Model X becomes the new "Escalade"? Because I see a lot of fear mongering towards Tesla... But Tesla has fast become a status symbol...what if...the fear mongering goes the OTHER way? What if...the Model X steals Cadillac Escalade's thunder and becomes the SUV? Stranger things have happened... General Motors did go bankrupt... Who ever thunk that would ever happen? Ford also nearly went under... Who thought that that the Detroit so called Big 3 would fail on the economy side of things? Funny that some of us foresee Tesla going under...with much bravado information...yet some of us forget that the "Big 3" had their asses handed to them by much smaller foreign companies...companies that today, have become huge...and yet...the same type of people DID laugh at those other smaller foreign companies during the 1970s and 1980s... PS: This aint directed towards you DFELT...you and I are on the same page... PSS: Im being melodramatic...its the Greek in me...but...its also me reciprocating the doom and gloom melodrama Im confronting here...

Yet...some still wanna dismiss Tesla... Porsche comes out with an EV... Tesla competitor that will eat Tesla's lunch they say... Bentley makes an EV... Tesla competitor that will steal Tesla's candy bar... Chevy makes the Bolt... Tesla competitor that will kick Tesla in the nuts... Yet...unconsciously, these haters of Tesla are unknowingly giving praise to Tesla... How? Like You said Suave...they themselves acknowledge Tesla's presence by comparing Tesla with the supposed old guard greats... "Either way, pretty shocking, how a company, with its first in-house developed car can be catapulted with the likes of the most well recognized and prestigious automakers in the world." and its these very haters that seem to compare Tesla cars to the greats by actually admitting that Tesla is in competition to these cars...actually....they admit that the cars that Porsche, Bentley, Chevy will eventually bring out are TESLA competitors...TESLA, will acquire competition...Telsa will acquire competition...meaning Tesla is the benchmark that needs to be dethroned... And they say...without any embarrassment, that Tesla is but a blip on the radar...and rookies building cars... And yet Tesla...is the ONLY pure 100% all electric vehicles on sale with 200 mile ranges...2 models...and counting... With an engineered platform that is solely for voltage power... Porsche's attempt is not for awhile... Chevy's Bolt is from a Sonic... The Volt is form a Cruze... It is to laugh... Tesla will continue to exist boys... Because electric power is the future...and it seems the old guard has no idea how to achieve the future....they still half-ass the EV...

Burning rubber... AC/DC style... High Voltage Rock-N-Roll

Doom and Gloom...*yawn* Enjoy your tiny blip on the radar screen, BLU.

I used own one of those brand new in the day...a teal/aqua blue green 1994 4 door GT...3.1 liter V6. I loved it. However, I would have preferred to have bought a 3.4 liter DOHC 1994 4 door Oldsmobile Cutlass Supreme instead...

heavily photoshopped? And your point is? Who in the Entertainment world isnt heavily photoshopped? Even those young lassies in that OBJ commercial were probably heavily photoshopped... And Tesla knows how to pl;ay the game...so much so...that the old guard likes to play dirty with them...

Yep, I liked those too. I liked Tom Petty as well. I was talking to me partner today, he threw a Superbowl party. Always does. Def Leppard should do one!

I had to google that. Not sure what you found via googling, but 'B' = Beyonce. Some call it 'curves', some call it 'thick', I call it what it is : fat. She fat, and I'm not talking about phat. Yes...exactly. I got from the urban dictionary: fat, chunky, junk in the trunk, obese... So I immediately knew you were talking about my Beyonce post... Even white boys got to shout Baby got back! Ill spare you guys with yet another video!

At least the hockey team is a Chevy... And Chevy named a truck after the state..and my Jeep is named after a city on the Texas-Mexico border.. Not a Beyonce fan...her routine looked too much like something from Janet Jackson 20 years ago... but Gaga's performance of the National Anthem was great... I forgot about Colorado...I was thinking about the Avalanche...silly me... Honestly, I was not really paying attention to the show, I was perving her. I skipped the National Anthem... Sorry. Tell you what though. Ill stand up for 4 minutes for this rendition: (partly because I dont do Gaga either!, Hendrix ROCKS!)

I had to google that. I dont like skinny bitches.. I mean...skinny bitches are aw-ight. But I prefer my hoes with some meat on 'em. (I like to feel and grab) Id slap that ass silly..

"Buick is desperate to become hip." True dat... And THAT is why that OBJ commercial sucked big time... Not only is the "Not your father's Oldsmobile" shtick old and stale...from the Oldsmobile days...that angle for Buick has also come to an end....Buick should have ended that last year and for this Superbowl...number 50 might add, should have been something unique... Oh...because using an up and coming football star coining his own bloody name is pure marketing genius... Because Buick has not hired an athlete before in its recent past to pedal their cars... Because other car companies havent hired celebrities to pedal their cars before... At least Montalban was sexy, had a sexy voice and the cars he pedaled had fine Corinthian leather... The reason why Im giving you a hard time here is that you want to dismiss Tesla so bad, that you even want to dismiss their commercials yet obviously give a pass to a very mediocre effort by Buick for that stolen "This aint your father's Olds" campaign with a very very FORGETTABLE performance by the future NFL football star... At least withTiger, we could still picture him inside his SUV while his ex smashes it...too bad for Buick he was driving a Cadillac Escalade... You want hip...WHOOMP! THERE IT IS! The fastest growing hip sport Golf, and thegame'sbiggest star, ever, cheating on his wife...and then getting his SUV smashed with his own Golf clubs by his wife... Now THAT is hip! There is your commercial! All we ended up with is an ad campaign from the late1980s early 1990s with a couple of floozies at a "marriage" jumping for flowers and the guest speaker blurts out Adele... ooops...Odelled... Maybe they should have used Adele instead....look at that cleavage... I bet you that that cleavage could get guys in a Buick showroom faster than OBJ ever could... So...how about cutting Tesla some slack?

At least the hockey team is a Chevy... I ORIGINALLY WANTED TO QUOTE BLU AS WELL...I FAILED!!!

At least the hockey team is a Chevy...

I thought the game started at 19:00 hours yesterday. It started at 18:30....luckily I was recording it... OK...this is where my random thought really starts: I thought I was gonna catch up to the live broadcast at half-time...because...who the hell listens to Coldplay, Bruno MArs and Beyonce anyway? I know I dont... Well, lets just say I continued being about half-hour behind...(behind...yes, carefully chosen word) I was looking at those legs...those are mighty fine legs... Here, let ZZ Top say a few words on my behalf.

Well Reg, I guess Tesla's commercials are not as epic as what we saw from Buick yesterday... Yeah...I mean a couple of broads trying to catch a bouquet of flowers and a couple of idiot guys saying that they "Odelled it" and then they couldnt believe the convertible was a Buick just oozes betterer baby puppy monkey baby monkey puppy... Awesome machines. Both of them. Somehow this song is appropriate for this moment... Because in a way...the Golden Age of Horsepower is NOW! A Second Coming... The Charger is a modern old school muscle car while the Tesla represents the future... Enjoy! PS: If the rat pack was still alive...Frank and Dean and Joey and Sammy, they'd be robbin' them Casinos and their getaway cars would be these two...obviously wwith scotch in hand and cigar in mouth. Swing, baby! 18-Karat rides!