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So it's more of an "everybody has an issue" type of thing, right? The only truly reasonably priced EVs are the Bolt, Bolt EUV and Leaf. Everything else is pretty insane for the size of vehicle you're getting.

Okay, so already more steps involved... This is starting exactly how I would expect it.

I think that is a HUGE mistake, to not support Apple CarPlay going forward. Too many people love it and use it. I cannot imagine whatever they cook up will be as nice.

Mercedes charges 75k for a vehicle that's identical to their 57k vehicle.

It's cool and all but it looks awkward having the same cabin shape with more modern from and rear clips/lights. I do love that color though!

My parents had an Envoy with that I6. The engine was just fine but I think those crappy 4spd autos really just sucked all of the life out of the engine. I think a modern 6-8spd would have faired waaaay better.

I don't know why the 300 never REALLY got a premium interior. I think they should have been playing in the luxury market with Chrysler 20 years ago.

Ahhh! I hate this coupe SUV thing.

Race engines are a completely different beast designed specifically for one thing.

That car is not high revving. You must not have read anything on it because it makes max hp at 6500rpm and max torque(276lb-ft) at 3000rpm.

I do really like how the exterior looks. Great looking car.

Some of those are pretty fair points but I think the limited run of 3000 units helps its cause. 10-15 years from now I think our generations(current 30-50 year olds) will want these still.

Speaking of airplanes (obviously, in this thread), has anybody wanted the new Netflix documentary on the MH370 disappearance? It'd very interesting and I'd suggest a watch.

I'd also like to add, I'd prefer my Challenger to be a "regular" Hellcat, +/- the Redeye, like you. If I really wanted a 9 second car, it could be built for a lot less and driven without worry of a depreciating asset. I bet most of these 3000 units won't see a full tank of gas a year because collectors want an investment and know a "last call" will appreciate. They're probably correct but I'd prefer one I could drive without that worry or thought in the back of my head. To that idea, it kind of bums me out realizing I'm not sure if I'll ever own an 03-04 Cobra for that same reason. The prices are pretty nuts already and if I did happen to buy one, I know damn well it would be in the back of my head that if I didn't drive it, I would likely break even or make money down the road. It would probably just make more sense to build a New Edge to my liking. There's actually one on a local Facebook page for sale with a Coyote shoehorned in the engine bay.. lovely car.

I was talking about the Challenger 170. It isn't that I don't care about the Challenger or that I dislike it. I just don't care about this "last call" marketing crap. It's a one-trick pony in an area that I just don't really care that much about nor am impressed with anymore.

You're not wrong about their efficiency but you're saying the actual cost to Tesla has to be right around the same as the Model 3, to price it at 50k. Just with it being much larger and a stainless steel body makes me feel like it has to cost a fair amount more for Tesla to produce.

You can't ACTUALLY believe they'll be selling 50k trucks though, right? Just the mass/size alone and a stainless steel body will bring their costs well above a Model 3. A Model 3 with AWD starts at 53k. I just cannot fathom how this could be priced in the 50k price range. Maybe their complete base model(that likely will only be on sale for a few months, like the 35k Model 3) will be shown for 50k. But, everybody and their brother knows this thing will not be a 50k truck once you add AWD (because it's a truck and I'd wager 90% of orders will be AWD) and a battery to go 300 miles or more. "At the event in Los Angeles, Tesla CEO Elon Musk announced that the new Cybertruck will start at $39,900 before incentives, but there will be two more AWD variations that will start at $49,900 and $69,900 respectively." That's a quote from who knows how long ago but it was supposed to be on sale in 2021, then 2022. It's 2023. It's supposed to start production this year...but we'll have to see what ACTUALLY happens here.

My wife and I watched this trailer the other day. We both look forward to seeing it. It looks corny but, still funny.

Exactly, and we all understand why. Most companies do the same thing. I don't foresee a 40k Cybertruck ever though. That was announced like 5 years ago and inflation has been insane. I could guess a 50k work truck version may possibly be a thing...but I'm not too confident in that either. This will be a 100k vehicle and they're not selling 200-250,000 $100k of these a year. Nobody has sales like that. Nothing could possibly have demand like that.

It's in the Grand Wagoneer already, maybe the Wagoneer, as well. https://www.motortrend.com/reviews/2023-jeep-wagoneer-l-hurricane-i-6-first-test-review/

I cannot imagine them selling 200-250k vehicles for more than one year, when it's hot and new. Once the novelty wears off, it just doesn't come off as a truck that can sell a quarter million units a year, consistently. Knowing their Model X pricing, starting at $99,990., I can't imagine a truck will be much less. I know Elon claimed 40k or whatnot, but this won't be had for under 100k for awhile. There are so many details we don't have on this hypothetical truck yet that it's tough to say anything about it. Ford will have a 2nd gen Lightning by the time this is out and both Ram and GM will have theirs in customers' hands already. So yeah, it may take some sales back but by being so damn late, they'll already have lost hundreds of thousands of sales to the D3.

For some reason, I just don't give a sht about this car. EVs, 911 Turbos and such cars have made me care less about insane quarter mile times. Cars that can make insane passes AND do other things are cool but, this doesn't do anything for me. For a one-trick pony, I'm sure one could get this performance with a GT500 with slicks, a pulley, and a tune and it can also take corners and stop. Probably damn close with a ZL1, as well. Heck, probably a Hellcat Redeye, too. Yeah, yeah yeah, modded VS stock... but this is one very expensive one-trick pony.

They would be, I'm just know my next vehicle certainly will not me smaller than what I have now.

It's probably a great little car but I don't care a whole lot for small, FWD cars.

There are plenty of spy shots of the vehicle testing and even the pros are assuming the powertrain. Yes, it's an assumption but it's pretty ignorant to think otherwise with Merc. https://www.motorauthority.com/news/1136745_2024-mercedes-benz-amg-glc-63-s-e-performance-coupe-spy-shots https://www.autoevolution.com/news/2024-mercedes-amg-glc-63-coupe-spied-as-high-riding-alternative-to-the-new-c-63-208232.html