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    They have off-road kits for all sorts of SUVs. That doesn't mean they ever see off road duty and you know that for a fact and if you don't, you are fooling yourself because you are trying to justify owning one. That's all fine and dandy. If it works for you, great but no one outside of yourself would dare say that the Patriot and Compass are even close to competition overall. They are woefully behind as a matter of fact and rely on heavy fleet sales to keep their numbers up, just like the first gen Escape for so many years until the 2013 redesign. Check www.jeeppatriot.com. You will be shocked of the amount taken offroad and the modifications done. I actually owned one and have stated m case. i would own another, though I am looking really forward to the replacement. And there are a lot of people tuning and putting intakes and exhaust on escapes on the forums too but that doesn't mean they are race escapes now or that they would be good on a race track.. It doesn't mean that there are a few hundred people out of the hundred and hundreds of thousands of people buying these really matter. Owning one doesn't magically make it not dated and behind every other small CUV. I own an Escape but that doesn't mean it is the best small CUV. To me it is the most maneuverable, gets over 30mpg if I'm cruising, and w/ AWD it is surprisingly great off road all while being whisper quiet on-road. - sound like somebody else's opinion here?
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    While I agree with the first statement above, unless manufacturers POINTEDLY install OBVIOUS obsolescence tech, the fact that the vehicle is powered electrically should not incite mass 'this is outdated, gotta get a new one' mentality in the market. Phones incorporate a LOT of fleeting tech & apps which yes, are subject to superficial judgement, but these types of features in vehicles are pretty much independent of the power plant propelling such. Phonesa re also a HELLUVA lot more affordable than cars- most people don't shoulder a loan to own one. Even subsequent generations of EVs that have improved range still should not see mass incentive to upgrade… this is in the same vein as IC vehicles' MPG improvement in subsequent gens. It's not usually enough to cause a trade- the costs are too steep for most consumers. Phones are cheaper but the way companies do their plans now...you basically are getting a loan out for a phone. Granted it's "interest free"(even though they are charging you one way or another). but it's still a loan, 2 years and then the phone is yours.
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    To go alone with the maneuverability, there is more than just the turning radius that makes something maneuverable, right? What is the steering ratio, the resistance of the steering wheel, the time it takes a suspension to settle going from side to side to maintain its stability? All of those are characteristics of a very maneuverable vehicle, not just how tight it can drive in a circle. 1999 was obviously a jokingly exaggeration because of how dated they are... Odd that your choice vehicle dated back to 2007 seemed to drive better to you than a Honda.. If your patriot is so much better off road than a new CRV then it will also drive like it. It's super hard to believe that a much more car-based CRV built for 2016 has a worse drive than a 2007 Patriot that is off road capable.
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    More than you think do. I did mine and always surprised at how capable it was even sans he off-road package. Maneuverability is more than an opinion. A Patriot is actually smaller and shorter than basically everything else in the class. it slots right between the Renegade and Cherokee in size. it also has a VERY tight turning circle. I am not even saying anything bad about any other CUV's, just stating that the Patriot does have it's perks. Oh, and the locking 4x4 system makes the thing basically unstoppable in the snow. How can one measure maneuverability? I understand it is more than an opinion but in this case you're just saying your opinion, unless you've taken all of the other CUVs out for test drives as well.. So it has ONE thing going for it, locking 4X4. I'm not saying it is a bad overall vehicle. I'm saying for 2016 it is dated and nothing is better than any competition, aside from locking 4X4 which has proven unnecessary by the competition. It was a good vehicle in 1999 when they came out. 2016, not so much. Things change and advance and the Patriot and Compass just haven't.
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    Aaaaaaaaaand 0.1% of people take these CUVs off road so all that increased ride height and departure angles get you is worse mileage and worse driving characteristics..what people use that drive these. Maneuverability is completely your opinion unless you've driven all of the little CUVs to actually say it is better or worse. My Escape has reclining rear seats and a 12v outlet. I would assume with the Escape being one of the older CUVs the others have them as well as they're newer.
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    That's been my point too. Yes, it is great that they have reduced their reliance on rental sales and such and focused on retail more. However, if you think an 18% drop is not a big deal, then you are just delusional and should remove yourself from the conversation entirely. I think this is similar to what we were talking about the other day. One fanboy saying it's okay to not make a sale as they lose money on the vehicle. HA. 18% drop at the average vehicle sale of about $35,000 at their current year to date sales of 1,183,705 vehicles would be roughly 213,067 vehicles at 35k per = $7,457,345,000 of revenue being missed. (That's 18% of their current year to date sales.) That's a lot of missing revenue. It was on the TPS reports. Did you not get those? You see, we are using the TPS reports now so if you could just go ahead and do that in the future, that'd be great mmmkay. Hahaha Yeah I'm just a little late to get my TPS reports finished.. I guess I'll have to come in Saturday to finish them..
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    I didn't realize Wings changed his screen name..and jumped ship.. How was this not a bulletin somewhere?
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    They just sell because they're dirt cheap because they don't do any one thing better than any of their competitors. Maybe something like ground clearance..
  9. ccap41
    It's catchy, right???? lol Credit goes to C/D though. I just used their title and shortened it.
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    Dude, I can't agree more! There are soooooooo many better vehicles out there than those 15 year old little SUVs. If there is a BOGO I'll go havzies(halvsies/halfzies) with you on a pair of them so we'll each get one for 50% off. Sure thing. I'll just turn around and sell mine anyway. Neither are worth half of they are asking for IMO. That's about all I'd do as well but if we could get them for half off.. there's gotta be some left for us to profit on!
  11. ccap41
    I think people are just really too heavy-footed for turbo cars. It seems like the majority of drivers just don't know how to accelerate without 3/4 throttle(in any vehicle).
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    ^ speaking of which... Where do people get their fleet sale numbers from? Are they released somewhere yet people just guess at the %? Or are people really just taking a wicked shot in the dark for the sake of "superiority"?
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    It's actually a very interesting read. There are 4 different cat/truck comparisons and then they go into talking about throttle response comparison, fuel economy, the next type for turbocharger, and how they're getting bigger, stronger, and better. There is definitely a lot to read but it's very interesting and I'm glad somebody did a piece on this. It was awesome to read about the 5.0 and 3.5 and finally reading about nearly identially equipped trucks. Usually there is something fairly major that skews results based on equipment, such as a tow package and gears, and the only difference here was the panoramic roof and under side skid plates(adding up to 213lbs). Which also reminds me. This part goes out to Mr. Bong. For all of those times you preached and preached about how the F150 only weighed in a tank of gas less than a Silverado. If you've ever been under a vehicle and removed skid plates you'd realize the heaviest ones are about 20-25lbs that leaves roughly 175lbs left for a panoramic roof...which the Silverado does not even have as an option, along with a lot of other creature comforts the F150 has but this is probably the most weighty of them. Looks like it is more like a handful of tanks of fuel difference...
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    To Blow or Not to Blow: Turbocharging vs. Natural Aspiration "Every new BMW on sale in the United States, save for the electric-drive i3, carries at least one turbocharger. Audi and Mercedes-Benz are nearly as turbo-centric. Even stalwarts of high-revving, naturally aspirated engines, such as ­Ferrari and Honda, are strapping snails to their engines. And on the home front, Ford has been pushing hard on its EcoBoost turbocharged engines for almost a decade now. If turbochargers haven’t won the war against ­natural aspiration yet, they certainly appear unstoppable in this, their most recent campaign for domination. Increasingly stringent fuel-economy and emissions regulations worldwide are driving this switch to forced induction because turbochargers allow carmakers to maintain performance levels while reducing engine displacement and improving EPA fuel economy. Honeywell, a leading turbo supplier, reckons that by the year 2020, 39 percent of all vehicles sold in North America will have turbos, up from 23 percent in 2015. Turbocharging’s day has been long in coming, considering that the concept has been around for more than a century. It’s been 54 years since General Motors fitted turbochargers to the Chevy Corvair Monza and the Oldsmobile F-85 Jetfire, and more than 40 since the Porsche 917/30, turbocharged to 1500 horsepower, laid waste to Can-Am competitors. But turbochargers aren’t just for performance cars anymore. They are now the solution of choice for all segments of the market, from city cars to luxury cruisers to—thanks to Ford—full-size pickup trucks. Once you lose V-8–loving truckers to a turbo V-6, the war is all but over and it’s just a matter of signing the surrender documents. On the following pages, you’ll find four head-to-head match-ups of turbocharged vehicles and their naturally aspirated competitors, covering the breadth of the light-vehicle market. Beware: These are not conventional ­comparison tests. We’re focusing these stories on the characteristics of the engines and judging the suitability of engine type for each class of vehicle. We also strapped our test gear to several cars to answer the two main questions at the heart of the turbocharged revolution: Do they really save gas, and has turbo lag truly been vanquished from forced-induction engines? ..." http://www.caranddriver.com/features/to-blow-or-not-to-blow-turbocharging-vs-natural-aspiration-feature
  15. ccap41
    Alright I'll be the idiot in the room... What do all of the abbreviations stand for? HEV, PHEV, and BEV?
  16. ccap41
    Wow, that's really awesome. What kind of range could be expected with something like that F150? I assume it could be all over the place depending on how it is tuned at the moment.
  17. ccap41
    ^ Plus it's just been so damn high the last year it's inevitably going to drop off somewhere. If it is going to be in a constant downfall for a few quarters I think companies like BMW and Mercedes with all of their unnecessary models like the GLE Coupe, X6, X4, E Class convertible.. will be hurt the most.
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    LOL that isn't how that works, brother. Don't bother explaining the obvious. When you have magical powers like Mercedes, you can lose money and its still okay. No one else has this ability. I mean there are some fanboy things that get thrown around but to say, "That B-class EV probably loses money, so they probably prefer that it doesn't sell. Is just ridiculous!
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    LOL that isn't how that works, brother.
  20. ccap41
    Most aren't unless they're buying the V8 versions. Other than that they are usually people who just really like the look of the car. Completely agree. An average test drive will not show off its superior driving characteristics as most dealerships aren't held over race tracks or back road canyons and in that case a softer ride on a test drive will probably sell better..obviously not too soft but again, if you're not buying the V8s in these cars you're likely not the kind of person who wants the stiffest and tightest of chassis.
  21. ccap41
    The Camaro 2LT starts at $30,795, not $31,7xx.Sorry, you are correct. My bad.
  22. ccap41
    I think some might be that regardless of the performance the camaro is just more expensive. EcoBoost Premium starts at 29,6xx and a 2.0 Camaro 2LT starts at 31,7xx. Base engine to mid range engine. Camaro's v6 adds 1,500. To most people who aren't getting the V8 that's a pretty big difference.
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    All I know is that I would absolutely love to get the car in the OP, ATS 2.0 AWD. I could live w/o the AWD as the ATS's wheels aren't too wide so winter traction on regular all season tires probably isn't dog $h!.
  24. ccap41
    Dude, I can't agree more! There are soooooooo many better vehicles out there than those 15 year old little SUVs. If there is a BOGO I'll go havzies(halvsies/halfzies) with you on a pair of them so we'll each get one for 50% off.
  25. ccap41
    Good lord, the best car saw a -21.5% this May over last May. Also, where are these 22,000 E Series being sold this year?!?!
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