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It largely depends on curb weight and weight distribution. The GT350 weighs in around 3700 pounds. If the ZL1 weighs in at 3900-ish I'd say it's a legit comparo. Yes. Weight and weight distribution makes them competitors. Duh... -
It largely depends on curb weight and weight distribution. The GT350 weighs in around 3700 pounds. If the ZL1 weighs in at 3900-ish I'd say it's a legit comparo. Yes. Weight and weight distribution makes them competitors. Duh...
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Huh? The 1LE will start just above a loaded Shelby and annihilate it? I think you mean ZL1. And in that case, I'm more interested in seeing how that car and the Hellcat compare...a more direct competitor. But if you ask Bong he said the weights are similar or some crap so they have to compete.. *rolls eyes*
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45k for a 1LE. Doesn't sound terrible. I mean in my opinion, anything over 40k is an expensive car because 2 doors and limited capability doing anything other than $h!'n and get'n but should be a great performer for the money! And, thank you! Anything over $25K is expensive anymore. If you were born earlier it would be $20 and even $10K depending on the era.Very true. I honestly couldn't imagine spending north of 30k on a vehicle. Most of that is just the insane depreciation they take.
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45k for a 1LE. Doesn't sound terrible. I mean in my opinion, anything over 40k is an expensive car because 2 doors and limited capability doing anything other than $h!'n and get'n but should be a great performer for the money! And, thank you!
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It was a statement to the both of you. If you chose to, yet again, take it personally, that's your issue. But, yet again, think about everybody else who wants to discuss the cars or automotive world not the validity of one's opinion and be courteous to everybody else. You didn't just ask a question, you hounded him for it like you do everybody. Just agree to disagree that you both feel different about something.. because you two do on most topics anyway. Is there any rumors of what the 1LE package will cost yet?
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I typed in 1Le camaro in best drivers car Ha. Apparently I just suck..
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What'd you actually type in? I tried a few different variations of "2016 Motor Trend Best Driver's car/pictures/SnapChat"
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So for whatever reason I can't link pictures anymore here. Internet Explorer opens the box to type in the URL but it won't let me click "okay" and Chrome doesn't bring up a full editing text box. Buuuuuut, if somebody wants to take this link and make it a picture that'd be awesome. http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d5/ccap41/9BD137AE-4629-4BA5-A103-2343299598C9_zps1uz2dsmr.jpg
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Oh yeah the new BMW M4 that was like matte grey with orange.. Edit: I did a little googling and I found this picture from their SnapChat although I couldn't find anything else. As far as I can remember this is the cars involved but I promise you there was a navy blue with a black hood Camaro and a baby blue Cayman as well that are missing.
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The 1LE is in BDC? I don't recall any " first drive " or test yet. And I also don't see that package available on Chevy's site either. How could one include a car that's not for sale yet? Last I heard, the 1LE packages are available in late 2016, on 2017 SS and LT V-6 Camaro. It was on their SnapChat while they were testing a couple weeks ago. Almost positive it was the 1LE not the ZL1. I'll try and Google some $h! to figure it out. Thanks for the reply. Even if it's not the 1LE, but is in fact the ZL1, that car is also not available. Either way, how can car(s) not out yet, be included in any sort of comparison? BDC has some odd eligibility requirements. More more what Olds says rings true - M/T's credibility is questionable. How can you question their credibility when there has been zero official information regarding the 2016 best drivers car participants? There is no grand conspiracy here, only huge tinfoil sales. It's silly and half baked to presume otherwise at this point.Every car was on SnapChat. I just don't remember them all but I believe R8, GT350R, 1LE, some AMG GT, GTR, I think the new 718 Cayman, and I guarantee one or two I'm missing. I think maybe one of the new McLarens as well.. It was about a month ago when they were testing them all.
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The 1LE is in BDC? I don't recall any " first drive " or test yet. And I also don't see that package available on Chevy's site either. How could one include a car that's not for sale yet? Last I heard, the 1LE packages are available in late 2016, on 2017 SS and LT V-6 Camaro. It was on their SnapChat while they were testing a couple weeks ago. Almost positive it was the 1LE not the ZL1. I'll try and Google some $h! to figure it out.
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Why is top speed a measurement of super car right now? That's the least cool spec about sports cars unless it's an actually stratospheric number like the veyron or Hennessey Gt(?) Honestly a figure 8 time is more impressive because of the switchback, accelerating, and braking all play a role. What's the SS vs AMG GT do in a test like that? Hell. We will find out track times between the 1LE and AMG GT before long at MT's best drivers car along with the GT350R.
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But the only advantage the ZL1 has over its Cadillac kin is horsepower, which as Balth was alluding to, is not the be all end all metric.The same question could be asked of Ford as well. Why does Ford get the $400K super car while Lincoln gets yet another CUV?And I completely agree that Lincoln should be the premium brand if that's what Lincoln is supposed to be for them but Lincoln is basically junk in comparison to Caddy. Lincoln is a century away from having anything performance-oriented. Either way my opinion stands. I think Caddy should be the one with the super car first and the ATS/CTS should have gotten the 650/640hp/tq first. Not so much that Chevy shouldn't use it but that caddy should have gotten it first. I kind of view the Vette as its own thing because caddy doesn't have anything there yet but whatever the new mid-engine Vette is, I think should start as a Cadillac. First, Cadillac has been sporting 640HP for two years now with the Vette being the only other beneficiary of it until the upcoming ZL1. Second, who's do say they don't bump the power of the CTS-V by then? My point stands that this is much ado about nothing. To each their own, man. Just my opinion of the matter.
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But the only advantage the ZL1 has over its Cadillac kin is horsepower, which as Balth was alluding to, is not the be all end all metric.The same question could be asked of Ford as well. Why does Ford get the $400K super car while Lincoln gets yet another CUV?And I completely agree that Lincoln should be the premium brand if that's what Lincoln is supposed to be for them but Lincoln is basically junk in comparison to Caddy. Lincoln is a century away from having anything performance-oriented. Either way my opinion stands. I think Caddy should be the one with the super car first and the ATS/CTS should have gotten the 650/640hp/tq first. Not so much that Chevy shouldn't use it but that caddy should have gotten it first. I kind of view the Vette as its own thing because caddy doesn't have anything there yet but whatever the new mid-engine Vette is, I think should start as a Cadillac.
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It's supposed to be the premium, high end brand isn't it? Shouldn't the premium brands get the best equipment first not the cheapest brand of the 4 under the umbrella?
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Absolutely too soon for rust! Where is his starting to form rust bubbles? I ask because I too have a 2013 Escape and I'm pretty sure I haven't seen any and I do my best to always hand wash it and I'm confident I would have noticed that. In the ~20,000 miles of ownership I've only had MFT freeze once and crash once as well.. Just stating my personal observation.
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Wow this didn't get spaced the was it was supposed to at all. Here's a little fixaroo.
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But both missions, at one point, were affordable performance that most anybody can buy. The Camaro is definitely moving further away from that at a quicker rate than the Challenger and Mustang. The Miata still remains a great performance bargain, like the car or not. Yes, in the grand scheme of things the Camaro is still a hell of a bargain for 100% OEM cars but nearly 40k to touch an SS is pretty rough. I have said before that the whole auto industry's prices are rising faster than inflation rates and it will create a problem eventually once people just stop buying because they're just too expensive. 2015 Camaro's base price: 25,700 2016 Camaro's base price: 27,705 That's a 7.23% increase in price. Inflation is not that. Inflation is typically in the 2-3% range. 2014 Mustang's base price:22,510 2015 Mustang's base price: 23,800 That's a 5.42% increase in base price. Still above inflation rate(like I said the whole industry is doing that) but much less so. Actually, inflation for the US was 0.7% last year. Shows how fast car prices are rising in relation to everything else.
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Just because: Ford's S550 chassis outsold the entire Alpha chassis. Mustang: 9565 Camaro: 5520 ATS: 2119 CTS: 1313 Total: 8952 First of all, How is the CTS only selling 1313 units??? Without looking.. I have to believe the E Class and 5 Series are 2-4 times that, right? It was a plus month for the ATS! Good! I want more on the road so when I'm ready to buy, there are more to choose from.
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Wow, those are awesome! My gf would lose those as she love vintage things and she's a hair stylist. If by chance you ever wanted to sell those.. give me a heads-up.
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I completely agree, SMK. Well put. They once were considered affordable sports cars(or muscle cars...whatever) and they're slowly becoming less and less affordable as the price of them is rising faster than inflation is.
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I HATE hearing "lease specials" because those are always the "ultra low" mileage leases meaning something like 8-10k miles a year or so. Change that to something more realistic and it jumps $25-50/month if not more if you drive a lot.
