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  1. surreal1272
    Still waiting on the real “pros” of this car. So much to love about the Model S and so much to loathe about the 3 and it keeps getting more loathesome.
  2. surreal1272
    You missed the obvious sarcasm and they are worth $4.5 Billion which is a few billion more than Elon Musk started with.
  3. surreal1272
    And I’m sure they are not aware of that at all, being a billion dollar company and all. Good thing you let them know lol!
  4. surreal1272
    Umm, going to disagree with that unless you love things that squeak nonstop after only six months. My sister had three different ones and the squeaking drove her nuts. Great concept, horrible execution.
  5. surreal1272
    “Unlike our vacuums, our cars don’t suck but like our vacuums, they are made with cheap plastics.”
  6. surreal1272
    So many puns about sucking (or not losing suction), so little time.
  7. surreal1272
    Which only lends credence to the fact that states like Minnesota need to use different and cleaner forms of energy to produce said power. Arizona’s solar industry has grown every year and will continue to do so, lending a perfect match to charging up those EVs.
  8. surreal1272
    Show me one person using a heavy duty truck for off road fun and why it has jack to do with what’s being talked about here.
  9. surreal1272
    Please read what I’m actually saying instead of converting it into some kind of kind winded explanation of something I am not talking about. I have no problem with what the optioned our models will cost. That’s the car business. What I am saying is that it will not start at $35K. Nothing less, nothing more.
  10. surreal1272
    GTFO of here and stop trying to move the bar yet again. You used the F-150 as an example of milking tech. Well, I’m pretty sure that a lot of people want those (same for the millions of GM 3800s out there whether you like it or not). The F-150 averages 70,000 a MONTH while bringing huge profits and has changed their powertrains numerous times to go with the times, hence ditching V8s for turbo sixes, just like Benz has been doing. Those are little details that you failed to mention while trying to call them out. Oh and GM has more CUVs than any other manufacturer including Benz. More details you leave out while you move that bar around.
  11. surreal1272
    Let me say this for you one more time. They will not start at $35K. Bank on it.
  12. surreal1272
    There is a certain, yet typical, irony in your statements about the F-150 and the GM 3800 when Mercedes has been peddling a 40 year old G Wagon to any sucker who is naive enough to buy it. That is why your constant trolling about the domestic makers here is pure folly and utter bull$h!.
  13. surreal1272
    And Tesla only makes the battery. Where the hell does SMK think all those other electrical components, like that giant tablet in the dash, comes from? The Tesla fairy? No. It comes from China.
  14. surreal1272
    Where do you come up with these asinine comparison. That 2016 Envision you speak of was a damn near loaded model and they said, from the get go, that the lower trim model would be introduced later. The fact that was a little higher then a base Enclave is 100% irrelevant based on that simple fact. Hell, a CLA can sot quite a bit more than a Class, in certain trims so unless you really want to go there, you need to just come up with a better argument. Oh, and with a $40K+ price difference, one would expect a 3 to not cost anywhere near an S, so a little $3K difference in the first year Envison is not a big deal and not comparable to what we were discussing regarding the 3. Fact is that they have said that it will be $35K when it is looking more and more likely that it will start out higher than that. What do you not understand about that? And yet their ONE EV outsells all Benz EV models but I don’t hear talk of Tesla being able to take over them now do I? Everything you have spoken about GM and Ford is pure hyperbole and just pure hypothetical mumbo jumbo. You literally know not one damn thing about how they operate or plan to operate in the future. Man, your GM trolling is old, tiring, and just a simple load of BS.
  15. surreal1272
    Except the 3 will not start at that price at all while the XT5 DOES start at $39K. That’s what they’ve been saying so big difference in your apples to oranges comparison. The 3 is also competing with a car that is $35K further making your XT5 reference completely irrelevant.
  16. surreal1272
    Well since we don’t use imaginary crystal balls to assume profit on a yet to be produced product, all we have is the present and at present, Tesla has not made a profit. Also, like others have pointed out, this pretty much solidifies the fact that the 3 is going to be priced higher than originally advertised.
  17. surreal1272
    Yet Tesla’s profits have been what since their inception? That’s a trick question btw as they have not yet made a profit worth noting.
  18. surreal1272
    IN fairness, not many people will opt for a Rio with no power windows. They are using the same formula that Nissan did when the Versa first out and what Mitsubishi did with the Mirage. Put out stripper models at basement prices but good luck actually finding one. May bet is that most Rios you will see were no where near $15K. Notice how fast that price creeps up when you get beyond the LX model.
  19. surreal1272
    Sonic and Spark.
  20. surreal1272
    If you don’t understand what I am saying, that is your affliction. You’re the one who has a problem with certain opinions and that is what I do not care about. It doesn’t mean that I am going to stop just because of said problem. Understand now? And you’re the one who said that you were done yet here you are. So you’re not done? You’re half way done? All the way done? Just trying to figure out what is going on here lol.
  21. surreal1272
    Understanding context is the key here. I don’t care about your FCA feelings and how you feel about my criticisms for reasons already stated. It doesn’t mean that I’m going to stop just because of those feelings. Big difference there. Remember, in all of this, you started the rebate argument with your very first post. Oh and I thought you were done?
  22. surreal1272
    No I do not. Again, it is only what you perceive but since we are being completely honest, I really don’t give two $h!s what you think. What you call “doom and gloom”, I call reality and facts. I have backed them up too even when you couldn’t. Sorry but if you want positive spin on every FCA product, then I suggest going to an FCA forum. Here, we discuss all cars, good and bad. Get the f@#k over it.
  23. surreal1272
    There is no winning with you but I’m not here to validate your delicate feelings where FCA is concerned. I have hit hard on GM and everyone else when applicable. It just happens that I feel that FCA is in trouble more so than the others. I also notice that you never had a problem when I criticized, Ford, or Benz, or countless others. It’s only FCA that you see a problem here. Well, if that is how you feel, then there is no hope for you here but I’m not about to change just because you perceive a problem that doesn’t really exist.
  24. surreal1272
    Yep, I’m a big ole’ Dodge hater! That must why I’m looking to get another lol!
  25. surreal1272
    Two GMs in the top 40 to countless FCA models. Yeah, completely the same there, like your incentive claim lol. I stated facts that you just happen to not agree with because of your FCA blinders. Also, I would have made that GC remark to anyone. I don’t give two $h!s who said unlike yourself, hence your trying to single me out here. Again, I have posted only easily referenced facts and links. Dispute it all you want. I simply don’t give a $h! because you will always ignore it and claim someone is just attacking FCA. Pathetically childish.
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