surreal1272

So their big issue was pricing them too high, like GM did with the Bolt. It clearly isn’t the EV part hence Tesla having no issues with moving them. The other thing to consider is that all Jaguars suck on the sales side of that coin so there is no surprise there. There is also the issue of reliability from Jaguar (spotty at best for decades) and Audi to a slightly lesser extent. Add in the total lack of marketing for both (also the problem with the Bolt). Point here is that it is not just one thing that hurt Audi and Jaguar.

DING DING DING! You are deflecting and it clearly wasn’t a waste of your time or wouldn’t have bothered to reply. You were trolling with some BS and were shown the door on your weak statement. The Silverado in question averages the same price at a dealership as the Bolt Premiere ($42-45K), is their best seller, yet they are offering larger discounts on it than the Bolt. Now where’s the criticism of the business model there? Oh that’s right. It’s an ICE and not and EV so it doesn’t warrant the same criticism from the EV troll. The point here is that your Colorado niche vehicle argument doesn’t fly so, DING DING DING! Your troll statement is pure bunk and the true waste of someone’s time. Seriously. You bitched about EVs being discussed on the Random Thoughts thread and a dedicated thread is made as a result of said bitching. Then, to top it off, you troll said thread at every chance you get. Make up your mind or here’s a thought, stop trolling this thread.

Sees the Bolt deals (only one trim level btw, the most expensive one) and then sees the much higher deals on the BEST SELLING model in Chevrolets stable (multiple Silverados) and wonders if someone is just trolling yet again on a thread they originally wanted no part of even though they cried for it to happen because mentioning EVs on the Random Thoughts thread was not “random enough”.

All hearsay and not admissible.

My uncle has a 2020 model and loves the lane assist feature (he’s 76 so quite helpful for him). Don’t know how he lives with that CVT but at the same time, he’s not trying to drag race anyone in it.

You would do wise to remember your OWN words. Everything you have said is nothing but hearsay and therefore not admissible yet you constantly speak like it is the Bible truth. I am merely speaking from an actual experience from an actual owner That happened literally two days ago at my own home. What do you have? My guess is nothing.

It’s funny how you think your hate for EVs means that everyone else hates them too. Example? The man who appraised my home yesterday was driving a Tesla 3 while also owning a Ford F-150 Crew. Because he drives around town a lot and the Ford is a gas sucker, the Tesla saves him so much grief with its 300+ miles range. He really loved the instant torque off the line. He actually loves both and realizes they have different uses and purpose. He said he had zero regrets about buying the Tesla. The point here is that your constant attempts to speak for everyone in regards to EVs is just pure bunk.

It shouldn’t be just for EVs though. If anything, its a bit ass backwards.

“You do get that it’s NOT always about bumps in horsepower right?” Corrected for omission.

Goal post moving doesn’t change the fact that the Escalade has routinely outsold the GLS. Your future guessing will not change that fact with these new models coming out, they will continue to sell well and routinely outpace the competition. And you have a lot of nerve holding fleet sales against GM while Mercedes whores out as many E Class taxis as they can produce and the sheer number of fleet sales of the S Class is equally staggering. When Benz does it, it’s good. When GM does it, it’s bad. Just more of that fanboy “logic” I guess.

And that Tahoe outsells all of its competitors while the Escalade outsells all of its competitors. Maybe GM knows something you don’t? (Again looks at the Mercedes lineup and wonders what you’ve been smoking).

You do get that its always about bumps in horsepower right? If it happens to way less and the current engine has been updated to make better use of that horsepower, then it is still a solid gain and a tactic that is utilized by all makes including Benz. And again, you talk about looking good or not looking good while not saying a word about the ugliness of your favorite brand (again, looks at the new GLA and holds back vomit).

Pretty much what I’m getting at as well. It’s not ugly, but its an Escalade. It should carry a little more “wow” up front.

Oddly, it doesn’t bother me. I don’t care for the current gen nose and think the 07-13 models looked better. I do wish they not do a spot on match with the trucks though. At least the last two gens ditched that approach to better results IMO.

Speaking on just the front end, no. Just no. The interior looks to be a nice leap in style though. I will have to give $h! about one thing though, the slab tablet look across the dash, aka Benz style. Seems like there was bit of a criticism in regards to the Palisade having that look and that is true here as well.

A nice starting price point but I don’t care what it offers inside and out when there is a 3 banger under the hood. That is the hardest of “NOs” from me.

(Looks at the new GLA and thinks some folks have no idea what “ugly” really is).

The interior looks to be a huge jump from the current models. Very sharp. Now my question is, how in the hell could this interior (or at least a variation of it) NOT be in the Silverado/Sierra? You really need to start informing yourself before trolling this hard. Everything is completely new from top to bottom.

Aaaaaaand, boring.

The 2.0 Turbo troubles are not surprising. Power delivery has been a common complaint no matter the car by Hyundai. It’s just garbage.

Better than a 4% loss.

Comparing Apple and Amazon to any car manufacturer, much less Tesla, is the very definition of an “apples to oranges” comparison when it comes to successful business models.

Reading is fundamental. Not understanding why EVs could possibly succeed is just mental.

All companies are in the business to make money but what sets some of them apart is the non-stop bean counting yet still wasting money and R&D (see the money spent on developing the CT6). Furthermore, RWD or FWD, at least the Aviator has real engine options with power to boot. Lincoln has somehow done what Cadillac should have already been doing (and no I am not a fan of Lincoln or the Aviator). What’s the XT6 rocking bedsides being sat upon the wrong platform (again the bean counting by forgoing the Omega platform)? That 3.6L that’s in just about everything else GM makes? The point here is that you can make money and still act like you give a damn about the little things. GM has a mixed record with that, at best.

I agree about the ride. The chassis is button down tight and could see that as a daily driver for many years. And I can only imagine the pull on that Blackwing. Again, maybe one day lol.