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@Drew Dowdell--And thanks for clearing up the light piping issue. My apologies for misreading intent. Having said that, your description of it comes off as a more honest and objective evaluation as opposed to the "Koreans are nothing but foreign junk that copies everyone" diatribes that polluted this thread. I personally don't think its that big of a riff but I can see some similarities. That does not change my stance on the fact that Hyundai and Kia are not unique in the borrowing of styling cues department. Thank you again for clarifying.

That very last sentence there is key. Were too derivative of other makes for years? Yes. Are they much less of that now? Also yes. Regarding the display, yes it is similar to Benz but if they would have done like everyone and slapped on a gigantic iPad in the center, they would been copying dozens. You can’t win either way. These days they are no more guilty of copying someone than any other make.

It’s shameful that a Hyundai catches the eye more than a Cadillac but GM made their choice with the XT6 and have to live that stigma. It’s more than nice enough on the inside but about as exciting on the outside as 1970s Volvo. Hoping the next Escalade doesn’t share that same bring look.

But that LED piping! They are just ripping Cadillac off! Only GM is allowed to that! Don’t you see man?

That it is and that is exactly the point Captain America fails to see when he tags on foreign companies. “Oh my god! This Korean owned SUV is made in...GASP...Korea! And that German car over there Is made in Germany! Wtf is this nonsense? Oh and look, there’s a domestic car that’s made in...Mexico! Oh the horror! Its a world market and that means choices from all over the globe. If domestic fans want people to buy only domestics, then go ahead and say that capitalism is BS too because that kind of thinking is why so many industries have failed over the decades. Two things. I said on THIS thread and just because Drew says it doesn’t mean it’s 100% factual. He is merely giving his opinion and it sounds like that remark was meant as more tongue in cheek but hey, if you need him to help validate your endless copying claims while ignoring the fact that everyone is doing it these days, then bless your fragile little ego. (Goes back and looks at the XT6 and sees Audi cues on that front end but doesn’t post endless and pointless diatribes about how Cadillac is ripping off the Germans).

Aaaaaaand.....triggered. Thanks for playing and displaying your continued inability to understand context. (Looks for Drew’s mention of the led piping and finds nothing in this article yet finds a fair amount of praise for it). And the whole “made in the USA” schtick is fake outrage when one realizes that they are posting said outrage on a device NOT made in the USA. And do you think the folks who work at the many foreign car plants in this country give two $h!s about where the money ends up? No. They are getting paid and putting THEIR money back into the economy. Now apply your “Made in the USA” motto to everything you own and then realize how asinine it sounds when you realize how hypocritical you are.

Good thing American companies like GM build all their cars and make all their components right here is the good old USA. Oh wait. And “light pipes”? Seriously? What should make you mad is that this looks better, on the inside and outside, than the Cadillac it competes with, the XT6. The most hilarious part here is that you didn’t mention the one MUCH MORE OBVIOUS thing that Hyundai copied here. The profile is almost 100% Tahoe (it can join the Expedition in that department). Oh no! Guess that makes me a Hyundai fanboy now! Oh, the horror!

See above pic of the smoke filled Cheech and Chong car. Either one would be applicable here lol.

Elon Musk coming up with the idea for a pick up.

Exactly. The current one looks like an April Fools Joke release. It is an affront to the eyes. Like I said in the Random Thoughts thread (before I saw this thread even existed apparently lol), Elon needs to seriously back off the devils lettuce. He somehow managed to make the Aztek seem like the hot girl in the room.

So I saw the release of the new Tesla Pickup and I’m wishing I hadn’t. Quite simply the most hideous looking thing I have ever seen with four wheels on it. Don’t even want to post a pic of it, it is that bad. Elon needs to back off the devils lettuce.

So you are basically confirming that it is nothing more than a gussied up Mercedes much in the same vein as an Escalade being a gussied up Chevy. Thanks for clearing that up.

Show us on the doll where Elon touched you.

Seems to me that there was someone on this site who constantly remarked about the Escalade being nothing more than a “gussied up Chevy”. Seems to me that this Maybach is nothing but a “gussied up Benz”.

Actually not a bad looking ride despite the name heresy but that three cylinder engine would be a hard no from me. Still, looks far better than the Trax.

He laughs to hide the truth. Thanks for playing.

We don't agree on much but a Cadillac version of the C8 would be the perfect true flagship car for Cadillac if done right. They cannot repeat the horrendous mistakes they made with the XLR. Price should be no object here if they want a true flagship car.

The point here is that I have yet to see you levy the same level of "copy cat" criticism at GM, that you reserve for the Koreans. There is not one reason why they have to look alike just because they are the same class of vehicle either, based on your "logic". That is just asinine. The Camaro and Mustang are the same class of vehicle but look nothing alike so try again. The Equinox and Escape are the same class of CUV but look nothing alike. That is what you seem to missing here while resort to name calling and that ridiculous yet predictable defensive attitude. All makes copy each other (at some point) but you stick to very specific brands because well, who the F knows but they are right there for everyone to see. And I'm not a fanboy of any brand genius so your deflection is just that, deflection. The Lexus reference was made because they are generally at the top of just about every reliability survey out there. Sorry the facts bother you so much that you have to resort to baseless attacks. Besides, you've made three different brand fan claims against me in the last three months (FCA, Ford, and now Toyota). Pick one and stick with it junior. You, on the other hand, are clear cut GM fanboy by every definition of the term. Deny it all you want but there are literally hundreds of pro-GM and GM defense posts by you that support this assertion. You cannot say the same thing about me and that is the big difference here. I guess since I'm on here defending the Seltos, you'll be calling me a Kia fanboy next. And the Land Rover reference was about the design which you brought up but you can't seem to keep your arguments straight so we will just leave that one alone before you blow a fanboy gasket. You can't even make the comparison to the Escape anymore but a picture is worth a thousand words and your words about it mean jack squat.

I do not get that profile on any of them. Looks blocky for the wrong reasons. Just makes the design seem confused. "Do I want to look like a small SUV or do I want my back end to look like an Aztek on meth? Decisions, decisions." At least the Kia is not quite as sloped in the back but is my least favorite part of it. So many auto makes out there seem to consider the rear 1/4 of a car an afterthought. To each their own though. This will still be a solid seller for Kia and so will the Trailblazer (the inclusion of a POS 3 cylinder engine not withstanding).

Late edit: That should read “while is NOT “Lexus” like in quality.”

In fairness, the Soul is the oddball here since it doesn’t offer AWD. Doesn’t really fit the CUV category in the traditional since IMO. Having said that, too many companies now are doing this with their CUV lineup. Barely and inch or so difference is size is just silly to me.

Lol! With honorable mention to the Acura “beak”! And at least the Lexus LC wears it well somehow. That Genesis grill though, ugly stick city no matter what it gets slapped on!

Everyone-“The Lexus predator grill is the ugliest grill ever” Genesis-“Hold my beer.”

Whatever the GM fanboy has to tell himself. Land Rovers are overpriced junk and while Kia is “Lexus” like in quality, it is worlds better than the GM fanboy realizes. Hell, their initial quality has been rated higher than GM, on average, but who’s keeping count of actual facts when it’s easier for fanboys to ignore that and just make up random BS? (Looks at the new “Trailblazer” profile that it shares with the Nissan Kicks and has a similar headlight swoop as the Evoque and wonders if said fanboy will criticize it to the same level that he has the Kia. We will sidestep naming the FWD CUV “Trailblazer” in the first place) Sincerely, The non-fanboy who hasn’t had a drink in years and was never a “drinker”.