Robert Hall

Been there. Done that. Twice. Once was a mutual dumping, though.

As far as fitment goes, of course: diesel WAS the Olds 350, and the V8-6-4 WAS the 368, so those 4 engines are only 2. Also on this list was the 4.1L V6. Retro-fitting an STS Northstar system into a E Touring Coupe would be a hoot n a half. Still sharp designs, esp the TCs. There was also the non-V8-6-4 version of the 368 in 1980, and the gas Olds 350 in '79-80. Including the V6 in '81-82, 6 engines..

I've done some GNR and Bon Jovi at Karaoke years ago...probably my strangest attempts were some classic NWA, Ice Cube, and early Eminem..

It would have to be a northstar from an STS, but I'm not sure the transmission would handle the torque. Ah, yeah..the Eldo of that generation was a north-south FWD, not transverse..that generation had a lot of available engines..diesel, Olds 350, 368, V8-6-4, 4100..

I wonder if anyone has ever transplanted a Northstar into one of these..I've always liked the crisp styling of the '79-85 E-bodies...there is a very clean dark gray Eldo Touring Coupe around that I see once in a while...

Interesting idea..too bad it was never finished. Speaking of performance wagons, I wonder if Ford ever built a SHO wagon as a prototype back in the day..that would have been cool...I guess the '11 equivalent would be a Flex SHO or Explorer SHO..

In life, I've found reality is like Michigan skies...different shades of gray. No absolutes.. things are relative to their context...

TMI...anyway, back to reality, I think I'm going to spend the coin for a really good primo car wash, hand wax, and interior detailing for my Jeep soon..I've been keeping it up mechanically, but not so much w/ the paint (too much bird poo, cats, etc) and interior.

curious if you could name a few of those boxes...? They are kind of obvious, aren't they? Parties, economic and political philosophies.. Democrat, Republican, etc parties capitalist, socialist, objectivist, etc economic philosophies Liberal/progressive, moderate, conservative, liberatarian, etc political philosophies realist, idealist, delusionist, etc worldviews......

The bedcover w/ Avalanche-y hoop is just showcar glitz, I assume..that reminds me of the recent Malooo ute.

I would assume the production model will continue to be BOF. Haven't heard anything about powertrains..I assume diesels outside NA, but will the 5 cyl return or will it be 4cyl and V6 for NA?

Saw the pics of the undisguised concept (a gold extended cab w/ a bed cover)....very nice, very modern, looks much more upscale than the homely current model.

It's been a while since I've done Karaoke, but I've had fun w/ it in the past after a few beers..Styx's Mr Roboto was a favorite, or anything by Def Leppard or AC/DC sung in a William Shatner style voice (w/ dramatic pauses).

Then of course there's the prepubescent girl who goes by the name Justin Bieber. I can't wait for the televised Quinceañera. Maybe he will do an image makeover when he turns 18..shave his head or get a mowhawk, tats, wierd random piercings, and rebrand himself as a punk rocker or death metal 'artist'...

Rear cupholders take care of that. I really should take my Jeep and get the interior detailed..haven't vacuumed it in over 4 years, lots of dog hair, french fries, coins, etc in the carpet..

I wonder when Bieber will do an album w/ Nickelback or Celine Dion.

I require center armrests--both front and back. I don't need one in the back..I don't ride there, but one in the front is definitely a must have..

He already has a G8 GXP, probably doesn't need another 4dr. I thought he has a Grand Prix GXP? He did..thought he traded that on a G8 GXP last year..not sure.

He already has a G8 GXP, probably doesn't need another 4dr.

Pointy..I like the styling direction Ford has been going lately w/ their small cars. Good luck w/ it.

A quieter sports car makes a better commuter car and long distance road trip car. The horrific seats (or so I've heard) probably limit the ZR-1s daily driver usability. Both are interesting cars, though..wouldn't kick either out of my garage.. I would certainly never own any of these for the purpose of being commuter cars. Nor would I take it on long distance road trips where I get to crap my pants at rock chips beating away at my hood and bumper. I personally can't afford either, one can dream That's the beauty of the 911, it makes a great daily driver and road trip car..reliable, solid and drivable (though I would think a GT3 or a GT3 RS would be too hardcore for that).. I know people that drive 'em day in, day out in any kind of weather...(a buddy in Denver has a Boxster S as his commuter car..if it snows too much, he works from home). If I had a sports car, I'd drive it as much as possible..esp. on road trips, avoiding the interstates and seeking out twisty back roads.

I know they made a Jade Gray and a darker Green for the Fleetwood but I am unaware of a green factory interior, to my knowledge there were only six colors (Black, Blue, Gray, Neutral, Red, Burgundy). Perhaps Derek has some light to shed on this. Depending on the light, the light gray (especially with a green exterior) can seem to have a green hue. No green, otherwise. That's probably what it was..it was partially overcast late afternoon and I had my Ray Bans on...

I know they made a Jade Gray and a darker Green for the Fleetwood but I am unaware of a green factory interior, to my knowledge there were only six colors (Black, Blue, Gray, Neutral, Red, Burgundy). Perhaps Derek has some light to shed on this. Hmmm...maybe it was gray..just saw it quickly in traffic beside me, but what I saw of the interior (dashpad, seat) looked green..cloth I think.

A quieter sports car makes a better commuter car and long distance road trip car. The horrific seats (or so I've heard) probably limit the ZR-1s daily driver usability. Both are interesting cars, though..wouldn't kick either out of my garage..

Perfect for St. Patty's day, or the day after, was a very clean triple dark green (paint, padded top, interior) mid '90s Caddy Fleetwood Brougham...sweet. Also drove by a business w/ a fleet of 3 pristine two-tone blue Chevy work trucks w/ Knapheide-style utiliy beds. What caught my eye were they were all 71-72 vintage pickups!