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Everything posted by Drew Dowdell
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Because it is unlikely to be the only car on this platform. There is still the CT8 which we know about, and that leaves a CT7 for us to wonder about. And then there is also Buick with the strong desire to create an Avenir level product and a Riviera level product. Edit: Can you imagine.... shortening this down a bit to make a Buick Riviera Grand Touring Coupe? Long flowing sexy lines without the hard nose aggression of the Germans or Cadillac. Soft and swoopy with a hint of the boat tail...it'd weigh in around 3500lbs in base Turbo-4 RWD form and it could be optioned up into the low $60s with a detuned 3.0TT..... </imagining>
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Let's Make a Deal: Cadillac CT6 Will Start At $54k
Drew Dowdell replied to El Kabong's topic in Industry News
Erm, I don't think either of them are the base wheels, both of those look bigger than 18s to me. I took those pictures at the reveal event in NY last spring.... I doubt they put 18s on the show cars. Per Cadillac friend - 18s are standard, 19s and 20s are available a la carte or with other packages. -
You're not the Yoda of Vintage cars for nothing....
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Woah there... don't get up on a high horse... everyone is going to be doing that soon.
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I'm thinking he's from Spam land, but we'll give him time to post more and see if his other posts also contain links. I'm guessing not.
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Props to you. You did get those guesses right. You get to pick from the usual list of prizes.
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Sure... you don't get the tech of a 7-series... why would you want something that behind the times? If the 7-series had an LCD rear view mirror, 360 camera with record function (for accident and security purposes), the coming super cruise, if it had 4-wheel steering, or magnetic ride control, or the lightest chassis for its size... then maybe the 7-series would be right up there with Cadillac on the tech level.... but hey, if all it takes is a Samsung 7 Inch tablet for the back seat to entertain you, I'm sure the Cadillac dealer would make a special trip to Costco to pick one up for you.
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As always with you, one spec is the only important feature until something else is the only important feature. The CT6 is lighter than a 5-series or CTS and has 4-wheel steering. And yes, the CT6 has a nicer interior than the CTS.
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XTS will stick around for a little while longer as it is one of the first existing products to get Super Cruise (along with CTS) The E-Class will be much smaller on the inside than the CT6.
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Indeed... http://www.cheersandgears.com/_/cadillac-news/2016-cadillac-ct6-to-arrive-at-dealers-in-march-start-at-54990-r3108
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From my friend at Cadillac, when I was at the CT6 reveal event in NY last year: Me: So what cars are the primary targets for the CT6 to compete with? Him: You tell me, what car do you think it competes with? Me: Well, are you aiming for the S-Class? Him: No, people who want the biggest, heaviest, isolation tank are just going to go buy an S-Class anyway. This car is for people who actually enjoy driving, want the luxury, and want the space. Reflecting on that conversation: It sounds like the CT6 is aiming more at being a 6-series 4-door with actual space, or a CLS400 with actual space, or an A7 with actual space. Or a Lexus LS that can handle like a GS.
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Cadillac is creating their own niche with this car. Yes it is the top sedan in the range, but this is not their S-Class fighter (still, *sigh*, I know) This is a 7-series sized car that will handle and perform like a 5-series (or better)
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Daimler was used by HRH Queen Elisabeth II right up until it end.
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I think Imperial was a stand alone division at more than one point.. but Balth will pop in eventually and set the record straight.
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$10k buys a nice chunk of Lingenfelter Camaro SS upgrades the downside to that is the devaluing of one vehicle.. Everybody knows the Shelby name will help hold it's value. If we're talking straight performance. Absolutely take a base GT or SS and stick the 10-15k in and you'll smoke some pretty exotic cars..but once we're talking aftermarket it is a whole different game. Are we buying museum pieces or race cars here? Every lap around a track will devalue the car. If you're worried about the long term value, buy a trailer and turn the car into a trailer queen that never adds any miles except driving on and off the trailer. Honestly, a Shelby that costs $10k - $20k more than a base Camaro SS with the same performance already has already devalued in my eyes..... but I'm the practical type and careful with money.
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I highlighted the 20 grand difference because that is the price difference between the two cars. So, that means that as optioned a mid-level Shelby is life and death to beat a base SS. And since the video discusses the Shelby's Magnetic Ride I'm guessing the Track Pack is the option pack it has. Now. Let that sink in. You could trim the price difference down by seven grand by removing some of the Shelby's handling chops. And you could remove another two or three by giving the Camaro Magnetic Ride. But as a Ford fan, do you really want to go down that road? It may be enough to tip the balance to the SS in most, if not all, categories. Alright, but the two numbers you keep clinging to will be the same with or without the Track Pack. I don't know how many times I've said it but you continue to compare these straight line numbers saying they are similar yet there is still no track test of the two of them. WE DONT KNOW. It is not "life or death" for the Shelby. I guess I just don't understand why you talk sooooooooooo much $h! against the Mustang when it isn't near as bad as you make it out to be. The GT350 is designed for something that the GT isn't and the SS is more like it. Do you know factually how much better the magnetic ride for both cars is? For all we know it's good for 0.1 in the figure eight. So for all we know they are, like I suggested, only 10k apart. And you get one of the best sounding motors ever created(opinion, but I haven't heard anybody dislike it yet) matched with the Shelby nameplate. The zero-60 won't change, but the handling aspects will. Magnetic ride control makes a big difference in handling. Even if the GT350 is set up with the best handling traditional suspension out there, it will beat you up when out on normal roads. With magnetic ride control, it can do both track days and country cruising. However, given how quickly MRC can change and adapt to various conditions, I think that even on the track, no non-dynamically adjustable suspension can match it.
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$10k buys a nice chunk of Lingenfelter Camaro SS upgrades
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What type of " crap " was Ford talking? ...it's time to hit the streets of Chuckwalla Valley Raceway before Randy Pobst does his hot lap. "I don't think anybody who buys a Shelby GT350 will be disappointed. It delivers," commented Pobst while behind the wheel. And to give the new model some perspective, Pobst also did a hot lap in a Dodge Charger Pursuit, which was just over 15 seconds slower than the new Shelby. http://www.nasaaz.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/track.jpg A Charger Pursuit is just a regular Hemi model in a police uniform, I don't really get the comparison here.... Charger Pursuits aren't running Hellcat engines. No one will be disappointed in a Shelby GT350, unless they realize they could get the same performance for a lot less money by wearing a bowtie. That's the point that EK and Surreal have been trying to make.
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Let's Make a Deal: Cadillac CT6 Will Start At $54k
Drew Dowdell replied to El Kabong's topic in Industry News
He got back to me. He says the only visual difference would be the wheels and some badges. The default wheels are 18". The Platinum cars get an extra Cadillac crest on the front fenders. -
Let's Make a Deal: Cadillac CT6 Will Start At $54k
Drew Dowdell replied to El Kabong's topic in Industry News
Very good question. I have a good friend who works at Cadillac PR. I've emailed him and asked him if any pictures of the base CT6 exist yet. I'll let you know what he says. -
Let's Make a Deal: Cadillac CT6 Will Start At $54k
Drew Dowdell replied to El Kabong's topic in Industry News
$56k for the V6 and AWD $65k for the 3.0TT and AWD $84k for the Plug-In Hybrid which will only be in the Platinum trim. -
Well we're not married married yet... but that will change in less than a year... 51 weeks actually. But we always celebrate our start date as Halloween. We've known each other for 12.5 years, but been a couple for 8.