C/D Comparo: Colorada vs. Tacoma.

[El Kabong]

It wasn't even close. The Chevy straight-up annihilated the facelifted Tacoma (217 points to the Taco's 190). Dead tree media again, so go buy the November '15 magazine to see, or wait until it goes online.

[cp-the-nerd]

You could at least upload the points page with your phone camera.

[ccap41]

...Pointless with no article...

It actually sucks I think this is the first month my C&D subscription expired.

[El Kabong]

cp-the-nerd, on 09 Oct 2015 - 08:48 AM, said:

You could at least upload the points page with your phone camera.

Edited October 9, 2015 by El Kabong

[El Kabong]

(The joys of wrestling with uploads)

[cp-the-nerd]

Damn that really was a slaughter. I'm shocked to see the Taco tanked it on the transmission portion. GM isn't really known for ideal 6-speed tuning, but it hammered the Toyota 10 points to 5. I thought the Taco's new V6 would at least give it a straight line advantage too, since it's so much lighter, but that's not the case either!

 

Meanwhile, GM is sitting on two newer V6 engines (4.3L ecotec3 and LGX) and an 8-speed auto when it wants to refresh their midsize trucks.

[El Kabong]

And let's not forget that Duramax. The early reviews have been promising.

[surreal1272]

I am surprised that the Colorado came out that far ahead, just because of the reputation the Tacoma has. Most thought the Tacoma update would be an equalizer but it is far from it. It shows how far GM has come with the Colorado and how complacent Toyota has been. Kudos to GM here.

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[surreal1272]

Complete domination by the Colorado. Again, I am surprised. This is why Ford needs to bring back the Ranger and make the competition that much stiffer. The Colorado sure put the Tacoma on notice here.

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[surreal1272]

Again, kudos to GM for their win in the mid size pick up comparo against the mid size stalwart Tacoma.

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[El Kabong]

To be fair, this win was as inevitable as the tides. GM came to the segment loaded for bear and whatever players were still hawking product were doomed to be cannon fodder.

Still, a 27-point win for the GM product is proof that excellence of execution is the only way to succeed in today's car biz. Half-assed hype just gets you funny looks and a bit of ad copy.

I also struggle with the description of 115,000 units in a startup year as niche numbers. But I suppose one person's niche numbers are another person's market segment gainers.

Edited October 9, 2015 by El Kabong

[Frisky Dingo]

Good call.

 

I haven't driven the new Tacoma yet, but unless it's substantially better than the old truck, it can't hold a candle to the Twins.

[Drew Dowdell]

I've cleaned up a large number of posts that weren't relevant to the topic.  Carry on... this time, on topic.

[El Kabong]

Thanks, man.

I'll also admit that there's a certain part of me that enjoyed seeing Toyota get the thrashing, more so than most other automakers.

[surreal1272]

My apologies too for getting sucked into that. There is no call for it.

[ocnblu]

I am like the opposite of a Toyota fan, and of course I love my truck and feel it is a superior product.  I would love to see Ford and Dodge get back into the small truck market.  I want to see GM add production capacity, to fulfill these trucks' true potential to bust the segment wide open.

 

Toyota trucks were better back when they were tiny, rust notwithstanding.  This Tacoma is just a poorly executed product.  In my own test driving experience, the Tacoma seats you on the floorboards, rides like it has no springs, and gets bad fuel mileage for what it is.

 

My wish list for the Colorado:

 

Regular cab

Diesel available in all cabs

Manual transmission availability with V6 and diesel

ZR2 production version

Some sort of 2WD sport trim package (love the 2016 Z71 Trail Boss)

Tan interior (GMC Canyon has it)

[Drew Dowdell]

The tan interior on the Canyon is an attempt to make the GMC a little more premium on options.

[Suaviloquent]

I expected the Colorado to clobber the Tacoma.  

[David]

About time you see America Clobber the Asians. Been far too long for this, well overdue.

[daves87rs]

Nice!

[balthazar]

About time you see America Clobber the Asians. Been far too long for this, well overdue.

That's the norm in the truck market, Dave. Recall all the wild predictions about the Tundra/Titan 'Camry-izing' the truck segment?

[ocnblu]

I expected the Colorado to clobber the Tacoma.  

But, but... I thought it was a "crappy midsize truck"???

[David]

 

cp-the-nerd, on 09 Oct 2015 - 08:48 AM, said:

You could at least upload the points page with your phone camera.

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Thanks for posting it, I have cropped and rotated so easier to read. Thanks again,

 

[David]

Will have to say that saying the new Tacoma has a better interior was them throwing the Taco truck a bone as they knew it was going down. That interior is not better IMHO than the colorado.

[Suaviloquent]

 

I expected the Colorado to clobber the Tacoma.  

But, but... I thought it was a "crappy midsize truck"???

 

 

Yes, in the context of a comparison a Platinum level F150 or Denali GMC interior the Canyonados have terrible, dare say again I say 'crappy' interiors.

 

You chose to forget a pretty obvious detail.

[balthazar]

I can't imagine a conscientious shopper giving serious consideration to the tacoma in light of the 50 million recalled toyoyos over the last 10 years, PLUS the factory buy-back (including 50% over market value 'hush money') to tacoma buyers for 6-some years of rotting frames & bodies.

[El Kabong]

Laziness in updating platforms rarely ends well.

[ocnblu]

 

 

I expected the Colorado to clobber the Tacoma.  

But, but... I thought it was a "crappy midsize truck"???

 

 

Yes, in the context of a comparison a Platinum level F150 or Denali GMC interior the Canyonados have terrible, dare say again I say 'crappy' interiors.

 

You chose to forget a pretty obvious detail.

 

Your opinion regarding my truck interior should matter to me... why again?

[Suaviloquent]

 

 

 

I expected the Colorado to clobber the Tacoma.  

But, but... I thought it was a "crappy midsize truck"???

 

 

Yes, in the context of a comparison a Platinum level F150 or Denali GMC interior the Canyonados have terrible, dare say again I say 'crappy' interiors.

 

You chose to forget a pretty obvious detail.

 

Your opinion regarding my truck interior should matter to me... why again?

 

 

I didn't realize you needed to cough up a response to tell me how much it doesn't matter at all. No need to waste breath to defend a mindset you've already assumed. But you go ahead and waste your time anyways. 

 

Now. Back to the topic. 

[David]

Except for hardcore Toyota lovers, most will see the Tacoma and if they have compared trucks will go NO THANK YOU. Toyota really dropped the ball on this one.

[ccap41]

Honestly.. I'd still take a Tacoma over a Colorado.. But a Canyon over a Tacoma. The Colorado's front end just looks too dang soft for my liking. The Tacoma and Canyon have muscular angles and grills whereas the Colorado is all soft from the end of the hood down to the plastic 3inches off the ground.

 

I just wish I wouldn't have let my subscription run out so I could have read this by now!

[David]

In all honesty I see what you mean by the more jelly bean look of the Chevy compared to Toyota or GMC, but both the Chevy and GMC I would take over the Toyota.

 

Autoblog review title sums it up best. 2016 Tacoma Average in Everyway possible.

http://autoomobile.com/news/2016-toyota-tacoma-is-just-average-in-every-way-possible/10030142/

 

 

Honestly, I would tell everyone to pass on Toyota even though they are getting ready to make their largest marketing push for the Tacoma ever according to the Motley Fool.

 

http://www.fool.com/investing/general/2015/10/02/toyota-prepares-to-push-the-2016-tacoma-as-gms-new.aspx

 

[ocnblu]

Haha, I happened to be walking by the TV this morning at work, and I saw these ugly little TRDs bouncing across the desert.

[ccap41]

..still look tougher than a Colorado..