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Flybrian    0

Mazda was so stupid to have fifteen different brands for all their cars. Seriously. Its so convoluted it doesn't even make sense.

Don't care for the dorky wing on the whatever in the first set of pictures

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Cory Wolfe    263

Mazda was so stupid to have fifteen different brands for all their cars. Seriously. Its so convoluted it doesn't even make sense.

Don't care for the dorky wing on the whatever in the first set of pictures

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Heh, yeah, Mazda went brand crazy. There was Efini, Eunos, Autozam, and obviously Mazda. Xedos never became a brand, the two vehicles that shared that name were still under Mazda. Obviously it was supposed to be a brand, like Amati, which was shelved entirely.

As for the wing, neither do I, but it was the best rear 3/4 view I could find. But yeah, if it were imported here, along side the Millenia, I think I would have bought it instead. Its more my size and style. It's sexier, too... almost has an Alfa Romeo like look to it. The only place it lacks versus the Millenia is its interior. I love these cars.

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That... makes no sense in the thread what so ever. :huh:

That interior is almost concept-like.

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That it is. Later versions got a more traditional steering wheel, as well as available lower rent audio/climate controls. What you see had a touch screen that controlled many of the functions, ala BMW's later iDrive system minus the controller.

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Cory Wolfe    263

This is the first I've heard about all these other Mazda divisions. Anybody have any info?

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Well, Wikipedia offers pretty basic info, although, not without mistakes...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mazda#Marques

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Efini

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eunos

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xedos

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Autozam

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Camino LS6    866

Meh, ok for what they are I guess.

That coupe could have looked really good with a bit more design time. The interior seems really claustrophobic for a car that size - odd.

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Flybrian    0

What you see had a touch screen that controlled many of the functions, ala Buick and Oldsmobile's earlier VIC.

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Cory Wolfe    263

Meh, ok for what they are I guess.

That coupe could have looked really good with a bit more design time. The interior seems really claustrophobic for a car that size - odd.

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I dont think they're all that big. Looks slightly bigger than a Nissan 240SX.

* Wheelbase: 2750 mm

* Front Track: 1520 mm

* Rear Track: 1510 mm

* Length: 4815 mm

* Width: 1795 mm

* Weight: 1570 kg

I don't feel like converting all that, but there are the dimensions.

You missed the hardtop sedan version of the 323F...

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Well, I guess its not one of my favorites, then. :P

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Cory Wolfe    263

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"This 4th generation JC Cosmo was way ahead of its time electronically as well (1990) by being the first production car with Car Control System, a CRT colour touch-screen controlling climate control, mobile phone, GPS car navigation, NTSC TV, radio and CD-Player."

I think this system is a bit more advanced.

"The 1989 Troféo could be ordered with the Visual Information Center - a dash mounted touch-screen CRT that controlled the vehicle's thermostat and radio, and also supplied advanced instrumentation such as a trip computer. The VIC could also serve as the interface to an in-car hands-free cell phone."

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Flybrian    0

"This 4th generation JC Cosmo was way ahead of its time electronically as well (1990) by being the first production car with Car Control System, a CRT colour touch-screen controlling climate control, mobile phone, GPS car navigation, NTSC TV, radio and CD-Player."

I think this system is a bit more advanced.

"The 1989 Troféo could be ordered with the Visual Information Center - a dash mounted touch-screen CRT that controlled the vehicle's thermostat and radio, and also supplied advanced instrumentation such as a trip computer. The VIC could also serve as the interface to an in-car hands-free cell phone."

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You were likening it to iDrive, which makes less sense than saying it builds upon the groundwork laid by GM's VICs.

As far as advancement, I'd debate you with the fact that very, very late-model Toronados had VICs with optional inertial navigation systems. Also, by your own quotations, the only 'advancement' is NTSC TV reception, something no regular passenger US car ever really had.

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Cory Wolfe    263

You were likening it to iDrive, which makes less sense than saying it builds upon the groundwork laid by GM's VICs.

As far as advancement, I'd debate you with the fact that very, very late-model Toronados had VICs with optional inertial navigation systems. Also, by your own quotations, the only 'advancement' is NTSC TV reception, something no regular passenger US car ever really had.

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Well, BMW's iDrive was the first to come to mind.

I'm not debating you, just saying it was a bit more advanced. Which it was, feature vs feature. The GM system debuting in 89, the Mazda system in 90. You, being a predominate GM fan, could it say built upon GM's system, but that's only a year. It takes alot longer than that for technology so advanced for the time. The Mazda system was more than likely in development long before any knowledge of GM's similar system.

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Flybrian    0

The conceptualization of VIC dates back to at least the mid-80s in concepts like the Buick Questor. I'm not saying the Japanese copied GM; I'm just recognizing the fact that GM was first to the market with a usable visual and tactile interface in a car and spread it out among several models that weren't just expensive flagships, a fact that many tend to ignore, especially with statements like "Detroit is catching up to Japanese technological innovation" or "BMW deserves kudos for being the first to bring HUD to the masses [by making it an add-cost option in the overpriced trim of the 5-Series]."

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RBB    3

Well, BMW's iDrive was the first to come to mind.

I'm not debating you, just saying it was a bit more advanced. Which it was, feature vs feature. The GM system debuting in 89, the Mazda system in 90. You, being a predominate GM fan, could it say built upon GM's system, but that's only a year. It takes alot longer than that for technology so advanced for the time. The Mazda system was more than likely in development long before any knowledge of GM's similar system.

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RBB    3

RBB... considering that Xedos 6 came out in 92, while the Aurora came out in 01.... :P

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Stupid americans. All they can do is copy from the Japanese...

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ocnblu    733
No Mazda will ever live to the ripe old age of those classics, let alone be loved to the degree of any of them. :AH-HA_wink:

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pow    106

RBB... considering that Xedos 6 came out in 92, while the Aurora came out as an 01.... :P

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