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Is Respect gone?

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capriceman    0

Me and 2 "brothers" (really just friends but we call each other family) where in a public place talking about going to see the memorial wall soon. Since Who doesnt know some one on there? and some asshole turned and told us straight to our faces that its a waste of time and we should go see somthing else more entertaining. Im still speachless. Yes, I have been there more than once and its not exciting but Its one of the only things that gets me teary eyed seeing the names of people you knew. It is something every one should see. Just to pay respect to our fallin heros.

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Flybrian    0

Its a waste of time to go to a loved one's funeral; they're already dead.

What kind of stupid attitude is that? I agree, respect is dwindling.

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Paolino    99

Today's youth is devoid of respect. It's scary.

And I can't even begin to tell you the assholism (yeah, I'm going to make that a word), that I see when it comes to school politics.

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razoredge    0

I think too many have watched too many cartoons and video games, now they think that is the reality of life. You fall down, get dead, then just get back up and go at it again.

theres no "play again" in real life

this is the real $h!..........girls !

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avant1963    38

I hate when the blame is put on video games and cartoons. I'm 33, play video games regularly (and have since I had an Oddessy 2 waaaayyy back when) and still love cartoons.

All the respect I have for people and property comes my my parents and family. My recent intrest in politics has come from watching the country that I love get raped by elitist corporatists. Though my parents were never into politics, I believe that it is the values that they instilled in me (and these ARE NOT religious values - I believe that you can be an atheist and still have a moral code, unlike many people) that makes me want the truth and fight for it.

So video games, etc are not the CAUSE, they are a concequence to many parents not caring what their children do or say, or of a society when both parents have to work, sometimes more than one job, just to make ends meet, and that "daily talk around the dinner table" becomes somthing only "rich people can do, honey." That leads me to the systematic extiction of the middle class, but that's another topic.

It just gets under my skin when someone blames something that I have enjoyed for 20 + years (and I like the violent games and horror movies, but that doesn't make me want to go out and kill) for something that I would never even contimplate doing. Thanks mom and dad for putting a good head on my shoulders.

Oh, and on topic, there is a huge lack of respect from people in general, not just kids, in the US today. It's almost disheartening.

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trinacriabob    21

Some people are jerks, no matter what, where, in which generation, etc.

Heck, we could start a thread on jerk stories (on second thought, no, that could be misinterpreted).

I believe memorials to the fallen are important. They gave their lives, leaving behind grieving parents and loved ones. On the other hand, the rest us of go about our daily lives and have the privilege of posting on C&G in our pajamas. Seriously, we have a lot to be thankful for.

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Paolino, that's not totally true. I know quite a few respectful people and my friends are generally respectful to people unless that person pisses them off. But then again we're Canadians lol. However, some of the youth are extremely disrespectful. Especially when we have our art displays. No respect for most artwork. Mine had pop spilled all over it but it turned out it wasn't a kid. We watched the surveillance videos and it turned out it was my principal. I have gained respect by my knowledge of cars and how I can draw them. Most respect that because they can't do it or they may like cars. Some are still disrespectful but they are the ones who don't really know me.

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trinacriabob    21

However, some of the youth are extremely disrespectful. Especially when we have our art displays. No respect for most artwork. Mine had pop spilled all over it but it turned out it wasn't a kid. We watched the surveillance videos and it turned out it was my principal.

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Gosh, what a revelation. I hope that was an accident and not intentional. Even teachers and administrators are jerks at times!

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Croc    268

Today's youth is devoid of respect.  It's scary.

And I can't even begin to tell you the assholism (yeah, I'm going to make that a word), that I see when it comes to school politics.

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Dude you work in a school. A middle school. TRUST ME popularity contests and bullying are nothing new or unique to this generation of kids.

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It was kind of an accident and kind of out of stupidity. The video showed him leaning over to look at my art closely and he must have forgot he had the Pepsi so the Pepsi leaned with him and spilled. He tried to clean it up quickly then he ran back into his office and never came back. He only admitted to it once we had watched the videos. I do not like him and I think he should've at least told me. I still would've been mad but just leaving it and not telling anyone is worse.

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razoredge    0

Dude you work in a school.  A middle school.  TRUST ME popularity contests and bullying are nothing new or unique to this generation of kids.

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Thats within an age group, it has nothing to do with outward respect. Respect for the past, respect for elders, respect for parents, respect for teachers, respect for community, respect for personal property

TRUST ME ! The $h! the past 3 decades of children have gotten away with would have gotten my generation a sore butt, serious restrictions, a life made myserable, a frown from your parents that would cut to the bone.

We didnt trash our schools, destroy cemetarys, vandalize everything and anything we could get our hands on.

Back in the early 90's when school budgets were first going through the roof, my father and I had a bit of an arguement. I asked whats up with all these "teachers aids" we need to employ now ? We never had teachers aids. Why are they complaining about having 22 kids in the classroom, we always had at least that many but usually 26-29 ?" ......Well he got a bit intence and said. "We now have children that were raised by parents that did not instill any form of control on their children. We have children that were not even raised through preschool age by their mothers, they just ran rampant, uncontrolled at some relative's or friends or "day care" center. We have children that were raised by parents that smoked dope in front of them or with them."

I had to sit there, dumbfounded, because I surely had no comeback. As he spoke I could see the picture and knew what he was saying was correct. So yea, it could easily be said that a large portion of baby boomers did a $h! job of raising their kids. Most have been forced into dual incomes, we did have a drug culture, we did have a discontent attitude with Nam, the police, politics..........but thats a huge circle isnt it ? Like one great big snowball, we could blame our parents generation for and they in return could blame their parents generation.

Problem is for those of us that did raise their kids strict and disciplined, with scruples, dignity, respect and principles. We always have to answer to the lowest common denominator. If you have kids with bad attitudes, dealing up lip service every chance they get, as a parent you have to fight this influence off dayly. Generation for generation the percentages increase and the challenge becomes greater.

There is no doubt in my mind that our children are our parents revenge and payback is a bitch.

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Croc    268

Still disagree razor...I've heard plenty of stories from my parents' and grandparents' youth that tell me nothing's really changed. Now, my parents are definitely early baby boomers and fairly traditional...I'm not a fan of a lot of the new age "parenting" crap either...THAT SAID...a lot of that traditional stuff instilled fear and not respect. There's a big difference there.

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ocnblu    733
I'm just guessing, but... I think Paulie was talking about staff, not students.

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Croc    268

I'm just guessing, but... I think Paulie was talking about staff, not students.

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Today's youth is devoid of respect.  It's scary.

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ocnblu    733
Read the second sentence in Paulie's post. Starting with the first word, it infers he's talking about staff.

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razoredge    0

Disagree all you want, but in small town 60/70's America there was no disrespect shown to adults and personal property by kids. The stuff I have heard come out of kids mouths today we would never have even thought of saying nor wanted to say. We took our lumps as a lesson taught. We didnt need to go into hissy fits and tantrums, yelling and screaming vulgarities, we would have been ashamed to be seen carring on like that.

I never said we were angels. We were talking about respect, not hell raisin. If we got in trouble for hell raisin we acepted our punishment, so many of todays children go into fits of rage, then search out means for revenge, because they got in trouble for doing something that was wrong. :stupid:

I was never afraid of my father, mother or grandparents. Even when I was getting my ass paddled, which was rare but did happen, I was not in fear. My parents were the ones that I did not have to be physically afraid of, the bullies/older kids in school could put a bigger lasting hurtin. The fear I had was placing disappointment in their eyes....thats called RESPECT !

Teenagers in our schools today hold our teachers hostage to their little whims. If a teacher tries to do anything to curb a students behavior, next thing you know they are down in court and the little prick or bitch is running around with a big smirk "I showed you"

I know parents that were raising their children with the "take a time out", woossy, be nice and tolerant attitude. Now we all have teenagers and have to listen to these same whimpy bleeding hearts cry about "I cant believe the things Jr. says to me, I cant believe the names he/she calls me, I dont understand the fits of rage, we never did anything to him/her"......................my reply........ "exactly"

Dont worry, your times a commin, I hope you guys get it done "right". We have teachers aids today, will you guys have armed guards ? ............ :lol:

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ocnblu    733
It is a sad day when a teacher in a classroom is afraid to keep order, or worse, is UNABLE to keep order. Parents today do not want to hear that little Johnnie is anything less than a perfect angel. They blame the teacher for their own poor parenting abilities and Johnnie's self-centered little asshole attitude. There needs to be a smackdown on these brats.

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It is a sad day when a teacher in a classroom is afraid to keep order, or worse, is UNABLE to keep order.  Parents today do not want to hear that little Johnnie is anything less than a perfect angel.  They blame the teacher for their own poor parenting abilities and Johnnie's self-centered little asshole attitude.  There needs to be a smackdown on these brats.

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Blu, you just hit the nail on the head. It's amazing what some parents will say to teachers when the teacher has the nerve to tell them their kid's disrespectful. And even then, it's not that the parent cares, it's that their pride was attacked in front of a bunch of people (even though those people are still minors).

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Croc    268

It is a sad day when a teacher in a classroom is afraid to keep order, or worse, is UNABLE to keep order.  Parents today do not want to hear that little Johnnie is anything less than a perfect angel.  They blame the teacher for their own poor parenting abilities and Johnnie's self-centered little asshole attitude.  There needs to be a smackdown on these brats.

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Funny...I deal with wild and unruly kids ages 3-10 every summer...except they aren't unruly in MY classroom. I have had others bring their kids to me to control them when they can't...

Dunno what it is, maybe I just set expectations the first day and don't try to be their friends...not to say I'm mean, but I present myself as an authority figure instead of an equal. Many of the kids come back year after year and I know one girl wants to work with me this next summer now that she's old enough to help lead.

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daves87rs    329

It is a sad day when a teacher in a classroom is afraid to keep order, or worse, is UNABLE to keep order.  Parents today do not want to hear that little Johnnie is anything less than a perfect angel.  They blame the teacher for their own poor parenting abilities and Johnnie's self-centered little asshole attitude.  There needs to be a smackdown on these brats.

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So very true.

But, In this case, respect is going to vary by both class, location, and opinion...

and generation....

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Bimmer325    18

Disagree all you want, but in small town 60/70's America there was no disrespect shown to adults and personal property by kids. 

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:lol::lol::lol:

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Cory Wolfe    263

Disagree all you want, but in small town 60/70's America there was no disrespect shown to adults and personal property by kids. The stuff I have heard come out of kids mouths today we would never have even thought of saying nor wanted to say. We took our lumps as a lesson taught. We didnt need to go into hissy fits and tantrums, yelling and screaming vulgarities, we would have been ashamed to be seen carring on like that.

I never said we were angels. We were talking about respect, not hell raisin. If we got in trouble for hell raisin we acepted our punishment, so many of todays children go into fits of rage, then search out means for revenge, because they got in trouble for doing something that was wrong.  :stupid:

I was never afraid of my father, mother or grandparents. Even when I was getting my ass paddled, which was rare but did happen, I was not in fear. My parents were the ones that I did not have to be physically afraid of, the bullies/older kids in school could put a bigger lasting hurtin. The fear I had was placing disappointment in their eyes....thats called RESPECT !

Teenagers in our schools today hold our teachers hostage to their little whims. If a teacher tries to do anything to curb a students behavior, next thing you know they are down in court and the little prick or bitch is running around with a big smirk "I showed you"

I know parents that were raising their children with the "take a time out", woossy, be nice and tolerant attitude. Now we all have teenagers and have to listen to these same whimpy bleeding hearts cry about "I cant believe the things Jr. says to me, I cant believe the names he/she calls me, I dont understand the fits of rage, we never did anything to him/her"......................my reply........ "exactly"

Dont worry, your times a commin, I hope you guys get it done "right". We have teachers aids today, will you guys have armed guards ? ............ :lol:

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I still disagree. I never said anything about "hell raising". What I said centered around respect. Comparing the generation of my parents, aunts, and uncles... to my generation... I don't see much of a difference, as far as respect goes. Both generations have their bad apples, obviously. Both could show a lack of respect, but both are not devoid of it. Since Brookville is by all means a small town and has been one since the start of its existance and all...

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