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Cory Wolfe

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I'm beginning to really dislike the Cutlass. It's turning into more of a continuing problem than a solution.

I think the transmission might be starting to go. It's hesitating more and more and is becoming quite clunky. The other night, it gave me a scare as it did not want to shift at all. I'm thinking it just got too hot at the time, but the fluid on the dipstick had black residue on it while the fluid itself matched the paint, a reddish brown. It didn't seem to be overly low on fluid, though. Low, but not low enough to cause those sort of problems. As long as it doesn't return to the state it was in that night, it'll be driveable, but I have a feeling this is a sign of things to come. I'm hoping that changing the fluid will help some.

As well, I hate carbureted engines with an everlasting passion. I really do. Between never ending dieseling issues and impossible cold engine idling with a terrible misfire, it's annoying. Not to mention, they are horribly inefficient. This past week, these problems have been escalating. As a result, I'm getting poor gas mileage and there's some light smoking from the exhaust. While I'd like to blame this on the carburetor, solely, but something has to be causing it to become so dirty. Cleaning it obviously isn't a lasting solution as it only went a month without problems. An industrial supply of carb cleaner is in order.

Oh, and heater sucks. It's hottest setting is lukewarm at best and the fan is weak. It lets in alot of fumes, too.

Anyways, I cannot wait to get back into my Millenia. I need a real car. :wink: :P

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Sorry to hear about your troubles... I'm sure if you're selling when you get your car fixed there are plenty on this board who think the inverse about the Cutlass who'd be willing to buy.

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What were you expecting from a 24 year old car that you got for 400 bucks? I'm confused? :blink:

Perfection. :P

It was more like $550 after all was said and done. More or less, something to drive uneventfully. As well, a few of you guys pinned this car as being "perfect" for me. I don't think it's quite living up to either.

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Honestly, for $550, it runs. That's more than can be said about many cars twice as much.

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Should've bought an e30 or something with an m30. :AH-HA_wink:

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Flybrian is right. Did we expect perfection for that amount of money? You never buy an old car and expect it to just run and not need anything. Anyone that tells you that they bought a car for $500 that didnt need something is talking out of their ---. I never bought one of my B-bodies that didnt need something. Sometimes they need quite a bit but the parts are cheap and things are easyier to do on these old mid-size and full-size cars than most others. As for the heating did you cheack the thermostat to see that its working? If it is stuck open it will cause a lot of problems. Poor heating,long warmup times,poor fuel economy to name a few. This can also cause the smoking if its running rich. Make sure the choke is opening the way it should after you make sure about the thermostat. I have proven there is nothing wrong with a carbureted car if it is set up right. My 1979 Impala worked fine on a lot of -15 mornings.

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Viper, if you re-read my posts from back then, you'll see I said it would be easier to fix if something happens than the Grand Am or Millenia. It would have been a good idea to change the transmission fluid before you put it on the road to start with, as a preventative maintenance thing. And it is a lot easier to fix a carburetor with issues than a fuel-injected car. Please just be patient, get your dad to help you work through these seemingly minor issues, and keep on riding. Check that thermostat, like Equinox said, and also... it can only help to do a complete tune-up, with plugs, wires, distributor parts, a fuel filter, etc. I mean, you told us the car sat for a good while before you found it. Edited by ocnblu
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90% of the problms you are complaining about can be fixed BY YOURSELF for pennies on the dollar comapred to the Millenia.

While you don't get much for $500 I've bought much better old Ameican beaters for less.... then again

that's kind of my special talent. This car sounds like my rusty, tired, 140K mile $200 winter beater

Fleetwood Brougham d'Elegance that I had in 2002. Same basic issues.

For the record, this is NOT an indication of the best deal out there for that kind of money! I bet if you

gave me two weeks and $400 I'd find a very solid and decent Gbody coupe. You gotta take your time

and look at 20 cars before you find that one diamond inn the rough. I probably called about two dozen

cars on craigslist before I came upon the Banana Boat, and I narrowed my search down and bought

the '76 LeSabre after having looked at a whole bunch of old 70s/80s boats. Law of averages, you can

not expect to find a great deal after searching craigslist for 15 min.

I'm not a genuis, I don't have many talents but I am cheap and I love to work on old cars and as a

result I have developed a special talent when it comes to finding cool cars for under $1000. These

days most cars at dealerships for under $4000 are pieces of $h!. They may be new-ish but I'd rather

kill myself than drive a 1999 Hyundai Elantra or a 2002 Kia Rio. F*** that.

Instead I take my $1K or sometimes even less, and I find the BEST, cleanest, well-running classic

or semi-classis car out there, with an owner desperate to sell. It's amazing how these deals come

together. The '76 LeSabre was advertised for $1300 o.b.o. when I went to go take a look at it. But

the owner REALLY needed to sell and so I gave him my number and eventually when he REALLY

needed it gone we settled on a great price. Sure I had to do all the accessory belts, clean the carb,

reinstall the stainless steel trim and rattle-can paint the bottoms of the rear 1/4 but I got a very

soild car with NONE of the issues you described.

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cleaning the carb won't help with dieseling issues if the carb is out of adjustment. the smoke out the back means it's probably running a bit rich... and that is supported by the dieseling.

you definitely want to check the thermostat like OCN said, a stuck open or closed thermostat can cause lots of problems, and it's a cheap and relatively easy fix. How is the coolant level? is the coolant fresh? not enough coolant and your heater is the first thing that goes.

get the transmission fluid AND filter changed.

I bet this car can easily be saved for a lot less than what it will take to get the Millenia back on the road.

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Oldsmoboi is right, of course, about what he says. I guess I take for granted you need to change the transmission filter when you drop the pan to change the fluid. Get yourself a filter and pan gasket kit, of course. This kind of stuff can be very satisfying to do yourself, if you have the right tools. Do you have a set of ramps?
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I'm sorry Vipes...but for crying out loud, for someone who claims to be a car person, you sure dont seem to take any pleasure in having a car that needs a little TLC. Ask any gear head I know, including myself what they enjoy most about owning an older car, and I can bet you 85% of them will say working on them and keeping them running right. Thats part of the experience in owning an older car. You're complaing about MINOR issues here, not a blown motor, or blown tranny, or a frame thats rotted and is beginning to crack. Take some pride in your car and treat it to some repairs before you talk out of your ass about how it's a piece of $h!. I seriously dont understand how you can be more excited to get the Milly back on the road, its as non descript as you can get, it has no redeeming value of any kind and surely wont garner so much as a quick glance by a passerby in the next 5-10 years. The Cutlass however has had and always will have a huge following...and for a reason, there's a special feeling in an Oldsmobile. Maybe it's time you took the time to realize that and start enjoying your car.

Just my :twocents:

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AGREED (last 2 posts)

And... for the record a complete proffessional carb rebuild will cost you $100-$120.

That's probably less than an oil chnage & a set of wiper blades at the local Mazda dealer!!! <_<

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part of me is tempted to buy the Cutlass just to rescue it from him.

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...or you could've given me $4500 yesterday and I would've picked you up a '88 Fiero GT V6 with 42,000 original miles at the auction.

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If I was into Fieros like BV I'd think that was the deal of a lifetime!

But the next non-B59 I buy for $4500 will be one of two cars:

- 1961 Cadillac two-door hardtop

- Prewar GM car, or possibly a Mopar. (something pre-war... 1928-37-ish)

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There was a '62 Electra 225 and a '54 Lincoln Capri that I would've loved. Lots of Camaros, MOPAR Hemis, and other typical stuff that honestly didn't really interest me. A few nice cars, though. Some fool wanted $1000 for a '78 Grand Am with no A/C, jinked suspension, a hood that wouldn't close, and the most destroyed paint job/surface rust ever. Riiiight...

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i want a G Body... id pimp a cutlass.... i wanna build a straight up g body drag car :D

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I'm sorry Vipes...but for crying out loud, for someone who claims to be a car person, you sure dont seem to take any pleasure in having a car that needs a little TLC. Ask any gear head I know, including myself what they enjoy most about owning an older car, and I can bet you 85% of them will say working on them and keeping them running right. Thats part of the experience in owning an older car. You're complaing about MINOR issues here, not a blown motor, or blown tranny, or a frame thats rotted and is beginning to crack. Take some pride in your car and treat it to some repairs before you talk out of your ass about how it's a piece of &#036;h&#33;. I seriously dont understand how you can be more excited to get the Milly back on the road, its as non descript as you can get, it has no redeeming value of any kind and surely wont garner so much as a quick glance by a passerby in the next 5-10 years. The Cutlass however has had and always will have a huge following...and for a reason, there's a special feeling in an Oldsmobile. Maybe it's time you took the time to realize that and start enjoying your car.

Just my :twocents:

It's posts like yours that really show me how cynical some of you guys are.

First off, don't read into everything so seriously. I say alot of things in jest and those who get that are the ones I get along with best. Others are too busy going off on their little rants, getting offensive, and making unjust proclamations. As well, many of you are too full of yourselves to see beyond it. I'm sure some find that comment ironic coming from me and it would only prove my point. Other posts in this thread were perfectly fine. They had helpful suggestions, which is what I was looking for. Take a hint.

Secondly, and this ties in with my above comments, you cannot speak for all automotive enthusiasts. Being one does not constitute being a "personal mechanic". The reasons for which I am into cars is the look, feel, and pleasure that comes from driving. Working and repairing them has never piqued my interests. I have no desire to become a mechanic. My forte has never been to fix up old beaters. I am a designer and a driver. I'm not a gear head, and being one doesn't make me any more of an enthusiast.

Thirdly, also tying in with previous statements, where have I said that I thought the Cutlass was a piece of &#036;h&#33;? Where have I said that I didn't enjoy it? My comments in this and the other thread were clear sarcasm. I don't hate the car at all. I've had fun driving it. Is it a pain in the ass, though? No doubt. This isn't some car I expected to fix up and turn into a weekend car. It's a daily driver that I have to run everyday without fault. I wasn't looking for a fixer-upper, merely something on the cheap side that would be able to get me from point A to point B. No matter how much it may pain you to realize this, but my Millenia was by far a better car to rely on. As well, I am sick of this insane assumption that my Millenia is inferior. I realize you guys are a bunch of GM fans, but pull your heads out of your asses. Your comments reek of ignorance. The sooner you see the light and come to terms with your unrelenting bias, the quicker you will begin to look like the opposite of a retard. Millenias are stylish, have redeeming value, garner praise, have a huge following, and just have this special feel. Perhaps it's time you grew beyond your one track mind and learn to value that a non-GM, non-domestic vehicle can be loved by many.

Two cents? More like trash. I sometimes wonder why I bother. I love C&G and it's members, but certain personalities really drag down the place. It makes coming here not nearly as enjoyable as it was in the past. I guess being relatively unbiased and open minded is frowned upon here. It seems that the more I grew out of being a GM supporter under all circumstances, the less respect I get here, even though I'm still an avid fan. I still wonder why I stick around. I can't say anything without some sort of backlash anymore. As much as I'd miss you guys, I doubt I'd be missed. I know I've become a better person over the years... So I just don't understand.

Thanks to those with helpful suggestions. Your posts are appreciated.

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Just fix it!

Investing a few bucks now will keep the car in good shape...long enough for you to save some extra money for your next car,

and be able to afford gas....

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It's posts like yours that really show me how cynical some of you guys are.

First off, don't read into everything so seriously. I say alot of things in jest and those who get that are the ones I get along with best. Others are too busy going off on their little rants, getting offensive, and making unjust proclamations. As well, many of you are too full of yourselves to see beyond it. I'm sure some find that comment ironic coming from me and it would only prove my point. Other posts in this thread were perfectly fine. They had helpful suggestions, which is what I was looking for. Take a hint.

Secondly, and this ties in with my above comments, you cannot speak for all automotive enthusiasts. Being one does not constitute being a "personal mechanic". The reasons for which I am into cars is the look, feel, and pleasure that comes from driving. Working and repairing them has never piqued my interests. I have no desire to become a mechanic. My forte has never been to fix up old beaters. I am a designer and a driver. I'm not a gear head, and being one doesn't make me any more of an enthusiast.

Thirdly, also tying in with previous statements, where have I said that I thought the Cutlass was a piece of &#036;h&#33;? Where have I said that I didn't enjoy it? My comments in this and the other thread were clear sarcasm. I don't hate the car at all. I've had fun driving it. Is it a pain in the ass, though? No doubt. This isn't some car I expected to fix up and turn into a weekend car. It's a daily driver that I have to run everyday without fault. I wasn't looking for a fixer-upper, merely something on the cheap side that would be able to get me from point A to point B. No matter how much it may pain you to realize this, but my Millenia was by far a better car to rely on. As well, I am sick of this insane assumption that my Millenia is inferior. I realize you guys are a bunch of GM fans, but pull your heads out of your asses. Your comments reek of ignorance. The sooner you see the light and come to terms with your unrelenting bias, the quicker you will begin to look like the opposite of a retard. Millenias are stylish, have redeeming value, garner praise, have a huge following, and just have this special feel. Perhaps it's time you grew beyond your one track mind and learn to value that a non-GM, non-domestic vehicle can be loved by many.

Two cents? More like trash. I sometimes wonder why I bother. I love C&G and it's members, but certain personalities really drag down the place. It makes coming here not nearly as enjoyable as it was in the past. I guess being relatively unbiased and open minded is frowned upon here. It seems that the more I grew out of being a GM supporter under all circumstances, the less respect I get here, even though I'm still an avid fan. I still wonder why I stick around. I can't say anything without some sort of backlash anymore. As much as I'd miss you guys, I doubt I'd be missed. I know I've become a better person over the years... So I just don't understand.

Thanks to those with helpful suggestions. Your posts are appreciated.

Ah, I wouldn't wory too much about it, BV.

You know how old guys and rants are.... :AH-HA_wink:

I just have to remember to take everything here with a grain of salt, beacuse not everyone understands everyone, and sometimes it's hard to really know what everyone is thinking......

I think somtimes people here forget that we come here for a REASON. :)

Oh, and don't forget to fix the Olds.... :AH-HA_wink:

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Thanks. Fixing it or not isn't a choice. I have to. I need it to get to work every day. How else am I going to afford to fix it and my Millenia in the first place? :P

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Fat guys do, too. How do you think I got two H&M outfits while in New York? :lol: :wink:

Edited by blackviper8891
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Has the weather changed a lot there?

If so, that's probably the problem with the carb. When the weather changes here, my Camaros go from running well to running like &#036;h&#33; unless I adjust their carbureators. Seriously, it makes a huge difference especially if it's been 'tuned' or messed with any for performance purposes.

If the carb doesn't need a rebuild, it basically takes a screwdriver and about 5 minutes if you know what you're doing.

FWIW, what you are experiencing is pretty normal. Anyone with an older car will tell you that. It's a love/hate relationship and it'll get better with time. Right now, you're just working the quirks out of the car and that can be torture when you don't have a lot of $$$ or knowledge. (I've been there and still am there in the $$$ respect) Don't give up on the car though, it just has a lot of personality :)

Edited by FUTURE_OF_GM
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