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Next-gen Chrysler 300/Dodge Charger to beat CAFE standards, get 8-speed auto

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It's pretty obvious at this point that Cerberus doesn't want to keep Chrysler, and turbulent economic realities have scuttled what few available prospects there would have been for new ownership. Some have openly wondered whether team Pentastar is even working on new products at all. Product development VP Frank Klegon insists that new Chrysler, Dodge and Jeep models are on their way, and he points to the next 300/Charger as proof.

Klegon told Automotive News at the LA Auto Show that the 2011 redesign of these two large, rear-wheel-drive sedans will beat projected 2011 CAFE standards. That feat will be accomplished with improvements to aerodynamics, axle ratios and upgraded engines. Klegon mentioned that the upcoming Phoenix engines, the development of which has not been cancelled, would motivate the Charger and 300. The new Phoenix family of V6 engines will have variable valve timing, cylinder deactivation and direct injection among its many efficiency increasing technologies. Automotive News also mentioned that Chrysler may employ an eight-speed automatic transmission to further improve performance and fuel economy. We don't know of any Chrysler transmission projects that are this ambitious, and Daimler currently utilizes only seven cogs in its Mercedes lineup, but suppliers like Aisin and ZF already have 8 speeds on the market.

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Very exciting indeed. Let's here it for the large RWD cars that may yet beat CAFE. :ohyeah:

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I don't believe it. If these cars stay RWD there is no way they can beat CAFE standards :rolleyes:

Good job Chrysler, hopefully the interiors are better this time.

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Kewl...throw in diesel options for NA, and they should definitely get better MPG.

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Chrysler: Ever the defiant shild of the 3...

This is why I love Chrysler. (Now that those filthy Germans no longer own it :)

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Impressive technology is one thing, if they can wrap it in an attracive wrapper I'll be impressed...

:AH-HA_wink:

I want to see what the production cars are going to look like.

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I don't believe it. If these cars stay RWD there is no way they can beat CAFE standards :rolleyes:

The various Corvettes over the years have had some pretty good MPG numbers for the performance they provided...?

Sometimes performance and economy CAN go "hand in hand"...?

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Impressive technology is one thing, if they can wrap it in an attracive wrapper I'll be impressed...

:AH-HA_wink:

I want to see what the production cars are going to look like.

Me too!

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Hopefully they will move away from brick styling with tiny greenhouses. I'd love the have the RWD, V8 hardware w/ sleek styling like the 2nd gen LHs.

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The various Corvettes over the years have had some pretty good MPG numbers for the performance they provided...?

Sometimes performance and economy CAN go "hand in hand"...?

I guess there was some sarcasm involved in N*'s post.

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I guess there was some sarcasm involved in N*'s post.

It's the Chrysler forum, I take nothing for granted!

:AH-HA_wink:

:lol:

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The various Corvettes over the years have had some pretty good MPG numbers for the performance they provided...?

Sometimes performance and economy CAN go "hand in hand"...?

Yes, as someone pointed out, that was sarcasm (see the rolleyes smiley).

As for the Corvette, fuel economy has more to do with weight than engine size and power most of the time, hence the Corvette gets good mileage as it is quite light. Notice that a basically identical engine thrown into a 4000lb sedan (see G8 GT or GXP, CTS-V vs. ZR-1) doesn't get too good of mileage because the cars are so hefty.

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They dont mean the cars will get the 35 mpg standard, they mean that the cars will get better mileage to meet the fleet average #'s. Mopar will have to bring back a Neon and a B class car to help get the 35 avg.

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Very exciting indeed. Let's here it for the large RWD cars that may yet beat CAFE. :ohyeah:

I'm certainly listening :mind-blowing:

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Let's hope the interior isn't junk...

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Let's hope the interior isn't junk...

They are not run by Dr. Z anymore. :smilewide:

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They are not run by Dr. Z anymore. :smilewide:

Exactly.

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Excellent!

At times, it can be good to be the smallest of the 3 because one is able to get away with way more innovative and daring things!

Here's to Chrysler regaining its late 1990's sales/profitability/greatness, although I won't hold my breath, I still hold hope.

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Hopefully they will move away from brick styling with tiny greenhouses. I'd love the have the RWD, V8 hardware w/ sleek styling like the 2nd gen LHs.

I think the greenhouses are just right now, the giant greenhouse "thing" carmakers had for so long seems to finally be coming to an end. It was one of the main causes of "Just plain ugly".

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I await the results.

And hope for good things.

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Well, there have been rumors of a Ute-type vehicle...

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I that would be cool if they made one. I vote Rampage for the name.

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I that would be cool if they made one. I vote Rampage for the name.

Challenger nose and drivetrain...

Yeah, I'd be there. 8)

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I dunno if it would have a Challenger nose, but it wouldn't be that hard to swap body panels. :wink:

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