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You ever know someone that was trying to be the center of attention by doing anything that would get them notice? We have to wonder if Tesla is employing this as yesterday they announced a 100 kWh battery option for the Model S and X.

Here are the key details you need to know,

  • Model S P100D: 0-60 time of 2.5 seconds in Ludicrous mode, total range of 315 miles
  • Model X P100D: 0-60 time of 2.9 seconds in Ludicrous mode, total range of 289 miles

As for pricing, the Model S P100D will set you back $134,500. The Model X P100D starts at $135,500.

If that is a bit too much for you, there is another option. If you have a P90D Ludicrous on order, you can upgrade the battery to the 100 kWh for only $10,000. If you have taken delivery of said vehicle, then be prepared to spend $20,000. Tesla says the increased cost is due to the 90 kWh battery needing to be recycled.

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Im impressed. 21/2 seconds. Wow.

But there is another number that Im even more impressed with.

315.

With all perfect conditions I imagine, but 315 non-the-less.

That would be practically a non-stop drive from Montreal to Boston in an all electric vehicle. A tad short from what a fossil fuel car does.

Well folk, get this range on a family car price and say good-bye to the fossil fuel automobile even with the current charging infrastructure system in place...at least in the States and Provinces that are electric car tolerant...

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The real issue here is Tesla keeps fixing things that are not an issue. The car has had more than enough 0-60 than any one owner will ever need in this type car. 

The things that need addressed like more charigng stations and faster charge times to where you do not have to go kill time while it charges on a trip is what they really need. 

Until they get a Full Charge time that can be done just about anywhere in the time it takes to pump 18 gallons 0-60 means little. 

Also they need to work on price. The 3 is far from a car just anyone can afford. By the time options are added it will be pushing $55-60K

Chevy at least with the Bolt will be pretty much optioned out accept for Leather and a few options and will come no where near $60K. 

One other thing Tesla needs to address is bringing new product not just faster to market but at least on time. They have failed repeatedly here and if it were not for their disciples they would not be given the free pass they have been given. 

The lower 0-60 times make for great web hype but it like many other things Musk does distracts from the real issues. 

The truth be said any Electric motored powered car can  be very fast as that is the nature of the electric motor. The torque is instant and flat. I am shocked no one has taken a Volt and played with the programming to make it launch like a bastard too. I assume we will see this at some point when the hot rod crowd starts to play with them. GM has not done it as they have not needed the cheap publicity. 

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If it keeps the rich people lusting for the more expensive Tesla, we may just see the Model 3 arrive according to YOUR timetable hyper, and priced aggressively.

 

The Bolt has zero anything yet. No pre-orders, and no brand equity. It'll probably make the Volt redundant. But it's still a start, and I like the range it offers and the practicality, but little else.

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10 hours ago, hyperv6 said:

The real issue here is Tesla keeps fixing things that are not an issue. The car has had more than enough 0-60 than any one owner will ever need in this type car. 

hahaha okay, and i'm sure your opinion applies equally to each and every other automaker. I bet you're popular with Hellcat owners.

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The things that need addressed like more charigng stations and faster charge times to where you do not have to go kill time while it charges on a trip is what they really need. 

 

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Until they get a Full Charge time that can be done just about anywhere in the time it takes to pump 18 gallons 0-60 means little. 

yeah and people buying superfast tesla's helps fuel the development

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Also they need to work on price. The 3 is far from a car just anyone can afford. By the time options are added it will be pushing $55-60K

 

wow! a luxury car that costs money! shocking! 

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Chevy at least with the Bolt will be pretty much optioned out accept for Leather and a few options and will come no where near $60K. 

 

the Bolt competes against the Leaf, not the Model 3 and isn't a RWD, performance oriented car. do you compare the Honda Fit against a 3 Series? because that'd be dumb. 

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One other thing Tesla needs to address is bringing new product not just faster to market but at least on time. They have failed repeatedly here and if it were not for their disciples they would not be given the free pass they have been given. 

 

tesla doesn't have disciples, it has fans and satisfied customers. you're just unfamiliar these concepts because GM doesn't have much of either lol!

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I assume we will see this at some point when the hot rod crowd starts to play with them. GM has not done it as they have not needed the cheap publicity. 

no they HAVEN'T done it because they GM has ZERO comparable vehicles right now.

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The Model S gets just more and popular as it ages...

That is kinda the reverse flow of how it is in the fossil fuel automobile world. The people buying the Model S seem to be relishing at the fact that it is indeed getting faster. While getting more range. Funny Mr. Fapturbo that you mentioned the Hellcat as muscle car fans, enthusiasts, is exactly what they are expecting of their muscle cars. Vette, Mustang and Camaro owner/fans too.

Faster, better, more efficient all the while still having a passion for the car, the brand and the nameplate.  That is what is happening at Tesla with the Model S. The Tesla Model S has become an Impala SS, a Pontiac GTO, A Ford Mustang, a BMW M3...It is an icon.

The Model S HAS to keep on achieving ludicrous speed in order to dominate the sales charts of cars costing $100 000, which in turn will fuel sales of the Model3 and  advance the charging infrastructure...

GM once had that from the 1950s all the way to the 1970s, even the 1980s.

Let us not be pissy just because Tesla found their groove and is emulating GM in that regard. (to have a loyal following that EXPECT their beloved GM cars to keep on blowing their minds each and every new generation!) GM is the one to fumble the ball.

Tesla was not even the one to pick it up. Tesla is a brand new team. An expansion team that so far, has made all the right draft choices and trades and is kicking ass in the standings, awaiting their first championship.

Fans are in the stands, the team itself still has to pay off its high falutin stadium, and yes, the stadium used city funds to be built, but dividends will eventually show. Anyway, the city prides itself with Tesla's colours and Tesla  is a fabric of the city and vice versa  Sure, not quite the Dallas Cowboys with 5 Superbowl vistories or New York Yankees 27 World Series or Montreal Canadiens 24 Stanley Cups being proudly flaunted but they certainly are a contender to win their first.

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19 hours ago, FAPTurbo said:

hahaha okay, and i'm sure your opinion applies equally to each and every other automaker. I bet you're popular with Hellcat owners.

 

yeah and people buying superfast tesla's helps fuel the development

wow! a luxury car that costs money! shocking! 

the Bolt competes against the Leaf, not the Model 3 and isn't a RWD, performance oriented car. do you compare the Honda Fit against a 3 Series? because that'd be dumb. 

tesla doesn't have disciples, it has fans and satisfied customers. you're just unfamiliar these concepts because GM doesn't have much of either lol!

no they HAVEN'T done it because they GM has ZERO comparable vehicles right now.

The real issue here is Tesla keeps fixing things that are not an issue. The car has had more than enough 0-60 than any one owner will ever need in this type car. 

The things that need addressed like more charigng stations and faster charge times to where you do not have to go kill time while it charges on a trip is what they really need. 

Until they get a Full Charge time that can be done just about anywhere in the time it takes to pump 18 gallons 0-60 means little. 

Also they need to work on price. The 3 is far from a car just anyone can afford. By the time options are added it will be pushing $55-60K

Chevy at least with the Bolt will be pretty much optioned out accept for Leather and a few options and will come no where near $60K. 

One other thing Tesla needs to address is bringing new product not just faster to market but at least on time. They have failed repeatedly here and if it were not for their disciples they would not be given the free pass they have been given. 

The lower 0-60 times make for great web hype but it like many other things Musk does distracts from the real issues. 

The truth be said any Electric motored powered car can  be very fast as that is the nature of the electric motor. The torque is instant and flat. I am shocked no one has taken a Volt and played with the programming to make it launch like a bastard too. I assume we will see this at some point when the hot rod crowd starts to play with them. GM has not done it as they have not needed the cheap publicity. 

 

 

Cut the crap and answer in a complete thought. 

Yes my opinion applies to any and every electric car out there. The damn thing is not a sports car and it is a car to appeal to those who are anti gas. It is more than fast enough for now and has other needs like better range and faster charge times. Just tweaking the software to apply more power faster is not really a big deal unless you want cheap headlines. 

Sure it may be faster than a 488 Ferrari but it is still not a Ferrari and you are missing the best part the sound. Hey the Hellcat is just buying time for Chrysler with a very old outdated car no one even used in comparisons anymore. At least it sound cool. 

Luxury cars cost money but the MFG generally try not to tell you they are only $35K and 60K when they really cost twice as much. Tesla has for years told us yes you can have one for $60-70K on the S model but if you want the goods it will be twice that or more. They are doing the same thing on the 3 Model. They treat this like Flemmings Steak house with ala  cart on everything. That may work there but not at the car dealer. 

I know what the Bolt competes with but Musk has tried to direct the 3 toward it. Many people think they compete now and they are not even in the same class. Even Musk has admitted he lied about the $35K. 

Tesla has disciples that would ca-strait themselves if Musk asked them to. Most love to argue the car but odds are most will never even own one because they can not afford it. As of now we have a great example of a disciple right here thanks to you. 

The bottom line is Tesla is short money behind on sales and slow with new product. They have been late on every car. They are behind on production and are now offering deals to play catch up. If they were selling like Musk likes to claim they would not be making cheaper models and offering discounted leases. He also would not presale a car with no announced production date if he did not need the money. the X model was late and so far has under performances and been a warranty nightmare. The S quality issues are greater now too as they have tried to speed things up. Don't believe it read their web forums.  

The bottom line is Tesla needed the 3 last year and the X 3 years before. The body of the S is growing old and as tired as a Chrysler 300. Yet all they could do is put some face on it from an Alien. 

You can shovel all the crap you like on this but we see the truth as we are not blinded followers. My greatest worry is as much as Tesla has helped promote the acceptance of the Electric car if it fails it will do more damage than it did good in the general public eye. We do not need another Tucker here. 

What great difference is a 4 second 0-60 than a 2.5 one in a family sedan. How often is it really needed compared to a 8 min  full charge or another 100 mile range? I think you will find true advancements like these are more of what it will take to attract new converts. The car is already damn fast now fix the thing really in need. 

If Tesla could just lower the cost of a model for the average buyer and fix the charge times and add more range they could even make a profit. Profits are good for longevity as it stands now time is ticking and they are living hand to mouth to survive with their cash flow. 

I suspect when the other expensive sedans hit the market the S will struggle. Tesla needs to get the rest of their lines out of Musks head and in the customers hands.  Once the Porsche and others are hear the market will shrink for them in a very significant way. The key is the others do not live only on electric products so the pressure is off. Tesla will struggle with only one type of car and with customers that will have many other interesting choices. 

You don't think a Porsche electric sedan? Who ever thought they would sell a 6,000 SUV in the numbers they are selling? 

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On 8/28/2016 at 4:26 PM, ccap41 said:

You're not forced to add 20-25k in options on the Tesla. 

They're still expanding their charge network and improving the technology for reduced charge times. 

No one is forced but if you want anything good in the car you are forced to add many options that normally are standard on most other luxury cars. It is the same game Benz plays in Europe. They low ball the price and ala carte the options. In the end it adds up fast. 

Network expansion still has a long way to go and it has slowed. The Battery Swap fantasy has gone away. As for technology they all are working on it but yet no major gains have been made. Small but they all have yet to strike the big hit. Cost and charging times are the biggest hurtles to all makers and the one who cracks the code will gain the largest share gain. 

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16 minutes ago, hyperv6 said:

No one is forced but if you want anything good in the car you are forced to add many options that normally are standard on most other luxury cars. It is the same game Benz plays in Europe. They low ball the price and ala carte the options. In the end it adds up fast. 

Network expansion still has a long way to go and it has slowed. The Battery Swap fantasy has gone away. As for technology they all are working on it but yet no major gains have been made. Small but they all have yet to strike the big hit. Cost and charging times are the biggest hurtles to all makers and the one who cracks the code will gain the largest share gain. 

The Germans, like you said, play that game, same with Ferrari.

It is a game plan that works well for high priced, high profile brands. Not so much for the Chevys and Toyotas of this world. Tesla knows its customer base well and it serves their price strategy just right as there is a high demand for their cars. Cadillac on the other hand, needs to package their trim levels better so they dont get stuck with unsold cars on the lot and then discounting them.

Hyper, you make it see like this pricing strategy that Tesla is going with is a bad thing. It is only a bad thing if customers are not willing to spend their money on all the little things...I figure you see this as nickel and dime-ing people. Well, it could very well be that, but people are WILLING to be nickel and dimed. That is how powerful the Tesla, Porsche, Ferrari brand is....and a few others of course.

The network is slowing down?

Whatever....it wont be too necessary in the near future....Bob Lutz had this to say in a Corvette question/answer period of all things at RoadandTrack:

http://www.roadandtrack.com/car-culture/a29598/bob-lutz-mid-engine-vette/

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Will world governments and the automobile sector ever reach an agreement on creating an actual infrastructure of hydrogen and electric stations for those who wish to embrace these environmentally friendly technologies?

Rick Trnka Winnipeg, Manitoba

 

BOB LUTZ ANSWER:

Probably not in our lifetime. Hydrogen is especially tough to transport and prevent boil-off. Electric vehicles will eventually be charged through embedded inductive rails in the freeway. Affordable EVs will have ranges of 400 to 500 miles in 10 years, obviating the need for a dense network of charging stations. Even with "quick charge" times of 25 to 30 minutes, several EVs showing up at once means someone will have to wait a few hours. That's hard to overcome. (I hear stories of Volt owners in charging queues being told to "buzz off; you've got gas" by the pure-EV owners.)

 

He raises another problem though regarding Chevy Volt owners that may help you on your side of the argument though...

The swapping battery fantasy has come and gone...well....the flying car fantasy has also become a myth...such is life with the automobile world. Many promises come and go in this domain.

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Who said that Tesla is fixing the quarter mile times that dont need to be fixed?

THAT is YOUR take on it....

REALITY is that Tesla IMPROVING their performance aspects of their sports sedan is no different from any other car manufacturer making their sports sedans or coupes faster. I guess Corvette fans should not have expected their C4 Vette to gain a LT5 or LT1 let alone all the performance advances 3 generations later!!! They should have been happy when the Crossfire V8 hitting 250HP....HEY! that was a helluva lot more horses than the smog era C3 right?  And the 1979 C3 if I remember correctly hit some sales milestones...

PLUS....315 miles on the P100. That is also an improvement...

The Model S WONT struggle to sell....

WHY?

Because the Model S has ALWAYS improved. Speed and range...

315 miles.

0-60 in 2.9 seconds...

 

PORSCHE, M-B, BMW all have a HELLUVA LOOOOOONG WAY TO GO BEFORE THEY EVEN REACH 3-4 year old Tesla Model S P60s let alone the P100...

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12 hours ago, oldshurst442 said:

Who said that Tesla is fixing the quarter mile times that dont need to be fixed?

THAT is YOUR take on it....

REALITY is that Tesla IMPROVING their performance aspects of their sports sedan is no different from any other car manufacturer making their sports sedans or coupes faster. I guess Corvette fans should not have expected their C4 Vette to gain a LT5 or LT1 let alone all the performance advances 3 generations later!!! They should have been happy when the Crossfire V8 hitting 250HP....HEY! that was a helluva lot more horses than the smog era C3 right?  And the 1979 C3 if I remember correctly hit some sales milestones...

PLUS....315 miles on the P100. That is also an improvement...

The Model S WONT struggle to sell....

WHY?

Because the Model S has ALWAYS improved. Speed and range...

315 miles.

0-60 in 2.9 seconds...

 

PORSCHE, M-B, BMW all have a HELLUVA LOOOOOONG WAY TO GO BEFORE THEY EVEN REACH 3-4 year old Tesla Model S P60s let alone the P100...

Here is the deal. the Corvette is a Sports car and is expected to increase performance. It is not built to save the world and it is not tethered to a system of charging stations that are far from everywhere.  it has a sole purpose to go fast and handle nothing more.

the S sedan is a sedan it is not a race car, It handles ok but is limited to even how many laps it could make with out depleting the power.

It's soul intent it to change the way people see and use electric cars. It matter little what sedan it is but do you really need a 2.5 0-60 in any sedan? It is not like you really need it in daily driving. 3.5-4.0 will do about anything you need. Most electric cars with some software changes could do the same as this is the nature of electric motors.

What is really needed is to fix the issues on the electric car that limits sales and appeal to the average buyer. That is the recharging times, locations and price.

Selling a high priced electric car is not really a challenge anymore Musk did prove there was a segment for it when many did not believe. Now that it is there he has still failed to address where it is difficult to go. He talks about it a lot but just never gets there. GM has moved on the Volt to make it cheaper and better. The Bolt will see the same as will the products from other makers soon.

2.5 is great but there are much more important things that are needed at Tesla and they have yet to address it.

Just because some of the folks like to be distracted with don't look at my right hand but watch what I have in my left mentality Musk will continue to have his way with some folks playing them. He is a master at showmanship and distraction. We have not see this as well done since PT Barnum.

At some point this will catch up to him or he will sell out before it crashes. The business plan he has now is just not sustainable as it is. At some point the money is just not going to be there to continue the rate of development he needs to keep things alive. Government funding will also run out too.

 

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12 hours ago, hyperv6 said:

No one is forced but if you want anything good in the car you are forced to add many options that normally are standard on most other luxury cars. It is the same game Benz plays in Europe. They low ball the price and ala carte the options. In the end it adds up fast. 

Network expansion still has a long way to go and it has slowed. The Battery Swap fantasy has gone away. As for technology they all are working on it but yet no major gains have been made. Small but they all have yet to strike the big hit. Cost and charging times are the biggest hurtles to all makers and the one who cracks the code will gain the largest share gain. 

Do you already know their packaging for the Model 3? It might not be as bad as you think. We know larger batteries and all wheel drive will quickly drive the price up(and driving range). The jumps from battery packs and AWD alone are massive on the Model S.

60kWh -> 75kWh = $8500

60kWh RWD -> AWD = $5000

Base model -> 75kWh AWD = $13,500

There aren't a whole ton of options that jack the price sky high other than batteries and AWD. Yes, there are cold weather packages, their nifty air suspension, and then their Premium package but other than that Autopilot has been said it will be standard on the Model 3.

Premium Package= $3000(most of this is junk like HEPA air filtration, LED interior lighting, lighted door handles...)

Air Suspension= $2500

Cold Weather= $1000

Point being... They don't come stripped down and there isn't really a reason one must assume a 20-25k option list is a must on a Model 3.

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Lets take the prices CCAP has listed, 

Tesla 3 - $35,000

Battery Option - $8,500

AWD Option - $5,000

Premium Package $3,000

Air Suspension $2,500

Cold Weather Package $1,000

Total Tesla Price - $55,000 for an AWD Electric with 300 mile range and the rest of the goodies.

It will sell if this is what they offer, but it will also be put up against the Bolt and VW 225 mile range EV they are showing at Paris auto show.

Interesting is that VW is saying a 15 min charge time for their new EV. Based on their 800 volt charging system that is going into the Porsche Mission E.

To quote:

" Speaking to German newspaper WirtschaftWoche (Industry and Economy Week) recently, Volkswagen chairman Herbert Diess said the car would have the outside dimensions of the Golf but offer the interior space of the larger Passat. It will be the first car built on the company’s latest MEB chassis, specifically designed for all electric cars like the BUDD-e concept that appeared at the Consumer Electronics Show last January. Diess says it should be market ready in late 2018 or early 2019. "

Full story here: VW electric story

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Interesting is the Autocar story that is saying VW is realigning their whole company to focus on alternative energy auto's and will allow them to focus on Hybrids and EVs having the most of any company by 2020.

Autocar Story

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On 8/28/2016 at 11:06 PM, Suaviloquent said:

If it keeps the rich people lusting for the more expensive Tesla, we may just see the Model 3 arrive according to YOUR timetable hyper, and priced aggressively.

 

The Bolt has zero anything yet. No pre-orders, and no brand equity. It'll probably make the Volt redundant. But it's still a start, and I like the range it offers and the practicality, but little else.

It will do just fine I think. GM is giving it good range, and the automotive market is changing rapidly.

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9 hours ago, ccap41 said:

I probably should have clarified as well that each battery jump is NOT equal.

60kWh -> 75kWh = $8500

75kWh -> 90kWh = $15,000

90kWh -> 100kWh = $43,000(But this also gives no RWD option, only AWD)

Would love to spend forty three grand this way.

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10 hours ago, ccap41 said:

Hahaha right?! Pretty absurd price jump if you ask me.. But they must know people are willing to pay the difference.

Those customers are the ones with little itty bitty wee wee and so need to make up for it by being able to go 0-60 in 2.5 seconds. After all once they shoot their electric load they are done, nothing more. ;)

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1 minute ago, dfelt said:

Those customers are the ones with little itty bitty wee wee and so need to make up for it by being able to go 0-60 in 2.5 seconds. After all once they shoot their electric load they are done, nothing more. ;)

I'm curious what kind of range depletion there is when you go balls out for just 1 0-60 run or 1/4 mile pass in a car like this.

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2 minutes ago, ccap41 said:

I'm curious what kind of range depletion there is when you go balls out for just 1 0-60 run or 1/4 mile pass in a car like this.

Agreed, I would also love to know just how much of a hit the Ludicrous mode takes on the battery.

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      What about an attainable electric car? There are a few on the market that cover the bases. Vehicles like the Hyundai Kona Electric, Chevy Bolt, Nissan Leaf, and others have good to respectable range, decent features, and are not the most expensive vehicles. Average prices of $40,000-$45,000 is a bit steep, but electric cars usually command a premium over gasoline vehicles. They also have good driving aids such as blind spot monitoring and adaptive cruise control, something that my current car has and is top priority for me. They’re all very good cars but with flaws such as build quality and designs that keep me from considering one. My problem is simple: performance. Electric cars have instant torque at 0 RPM and can be extremely fast. These EVs just don’t cut the mustard for me since they are more about range than blistering speed. For around $45,000, I can get a gas-powered car such as a Genesis G70 3.3T that is faster, has better range, and the safety features I want. Let’s continue from good electric vehicles to “the best”.
      Right now, you are probably thinking: “Anthony, you are forgetting the king of electric vehicles. They are synonymous with electric cars and have a huge cult following.” Guess who that is? Yes, that is of course Tesla. You can’t write about electric cars without talking about Tesla. They are a very S 3 X Y R brand indeed. The Model S introduced expensive but seriously quick electric vehicles. The X brought us an odd but much-needed crossover. The 3 is the bread-and-butter maker with a starting price around $40,000, and acceleration that beats almost all vehicles in its class. The Y hasn’t come out yet but is a crossover version of the 3, and the Roadster is a $250,000 supercar. Even though there are three models currently available, I will focus on the Model 3 Performance since that is the one I am most interested in.
      There is a lot to like about the Model 3 Performance. It has “performance” in its name and with 450 HP, it is one of the quickest sedans I’ve ever driven. The instant torque from the motors is intoxicating and it handles well for a heavy vehicle. Does it tick all the boxes to convert to a Tesla-fanatic? No. Why? The interior. I am not a fan of controlling absolutely everything with a touchscreen and not having my speedometer in front of me.
      The Model 3 Performance can have semi-autonomous driving, but it is a $7,000 option. Tesla’s Autopilot driver-assist system is standard and is regarded to be one of the best, if not the best driver-assist system. Tesla has sold over 250,000 Model 3 vehicles and it is a genuinely amazing feat for a young company. The range is good at over 310 miles. Pricing starts at $55,000 and is fully-loaded around $64,000. If you are okay with the minimal interior and styling, get yourself a Model 3. I personally am not a fan of either of those, so onward we go.
      This brings me to a car I am waiting for: The Polestar 2 fastback. Polestar used to be a sub-division of Volvo, like AMG is to Mercedes-Benz. You can still get Polestar-tune Volvos, but Polestar has branched out into their own brand. The Polestar 2 is their first all-electric car. It has over 250 miles of range, 400 HP, and most import to me, gauges that are straight in front of the driver. The design is bold yet looks like an even more modern version of a Volvo. Since Polestar is a sporty company, the performance upgrades include upgraded shocks, brakes, and bigger wheels with Swedish gold seat belts. You get this package mainly for the gold seat belts. Is it pricey at over $60,000? Yes, but it feels justified for the 408 hp and range of 275 miles. 0-60 is said to be around 4.7 seconds but I suspect it will be lower. Will they sell Tesla Model 3 numbers of them? I highly doubt it since they area new brand, but it should be a great competitor to the Tesla Model 3.
      I like the concept of electric vehicles. I know that one day, there will be one charging at my house. Am I ready for an electric car? Yes. Is there any on the market that jumps out at me and gives me the satisfaction I have for my current car at a reasonable price of around $40,000 new? No.
      Do not get me wrong; there are electric cars that make sense for a multitude of situations. Range and charging are getting better, more features are getting added, and manufacturers are creating electric-only ranges of vehicles that will bring down the costs of more performance-oriented vehicles. I can go in-depth about certain electric cars in a future article. For now, I think I will keep my car and wait until something really catches my eye. That, or wait a few years and hope the Porsche Taycan depreciates enough that I can buy one.
       

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    • By Anthony Fongaro
      EV-curious. That’s what I would call myself. Someone that is interested in EVs but just hasn’t found the right one. There are many aspects of an EV that is appealing to me. Instant torque, quick acceleration, the ability to charge at your house or apartment, and the continuation of creating semi-autonomous driving. It’s all so exciting! I’m ready to go out and trade in my 2016 Volkswagen GTI for one now! Or am I? Let’s take a quick look at a small field of electric vehicles, starting with the brand new 2020 Porsche Taycan.
      The release of the 2020 Porsche Taycan is a feat in and of itself. The car itself is downright sexy, is has a handsome interior, and performance that is pure Porsche. Over 700 HP for the Turbo S model is impressive. It also costs what you would expect an electric super-Porsche would be since the range topping Taycans are coming out first. These are the Turbo and Turbo S which cost over $150,000. After these come onto the market, less expensive and less powerful versions will come. Would this be the car that I will buy? Sure, once I get that CMO position at a major company. This is a dream electric car, but not one that I would consider just yet. 
      What about an attainable electric car? There are a few on the market that cover the bases. Vehicles like the Hyundai Kona Electric, Chevy Bolt, Nissan Leaf, and others have good to respectable range, decent features, and are not the most expensive vehicles. Average prices of $40,000-$45,000 is a bit steep, but electric cars usually command a premium over gasoline vehicles. They also have good driving aids such as blind spot monitoring and adaptive cruise control, something that my current car has and is top priority for me. They’re all very good cars but with flaws such as build quality and designs that keep me from considering one. My problem is simple: performance. Electric cars have instant torque at 0 RPM and can be extremely fast. These EVs just don’t cut the mustard for me since they are more about range than blistering speed. For around $45,000, I can get a gas-powered car such as a Genesis G70 3.3T that is faster, has better range, and the safety features I want. Let’s continue from good electric vehicles to “the best”.
      Right now, you are probably thinking: “Anthony, you are forgetting the king of electric vehicles. They are synonymous with electric cars and have a huge cult following.” Guess who that is? Yes, that is of course Tesla. You can’t write about electric cars without talking about Tesla. They are a very S 3 X Y R brand indeed. The Model S introduced expensive but seriously quick electric vehicles. The X brought us an odd but much-needed crossover. The 3 is the bread-and-butter maker with a starting price around $40,000, and acceleration that beats almost all vehicles in its class. The Y hasn’t come out yet but is a crossover version of the 3, and the Roadster is a $250,000 supercar. Even though there are three models currently available, I will focus on the Model 3 Performance since that is the one I am most interested in.
      There is a lot to like about the Model 3 Performance. It has “performance” in its name and with 450 HP, it is one of the quickest sedans I’ve ever driven. The instant torque from the motors is intoxicating and it handles well for a heavy vehicle. Does it tick all the boxes to convert to a Tesla-fanatic? No. Why? The interior. I am not a fan of controlling absolutely everything with a touchscreen and not having my speedometer in front of me.
      The Model 3 Performance can have semi-autonomous driving, but it is a $7,000 option. Tesla’s Autopilot driver-assist system is standard and is regarded to be one of the best, if not the best driver-assist system. Tesla has sold over 250,000 Model 3 vehicles and it is a genuinely amazing feat for a young company. The range is good at over 310 miles. Pricing starts at $55,000 and is fully-loaded around $64,000. If you are okay with the minimal interior and styling, get yourself a Model 3. I personally am not a fan of either of those, so onward we go.
      This brings me to a car I am waiting for: The Polestar 2 fastback. Polestar used to be a sub-division of Volvo, like AMG is to Mercedes-Benz. You can still get Polestar-tune Volvos, but Polestar has branched out into their own brand. The Polestar 2 is their first all-electric car. It has over 250 miles of range, 400 HP, and most import to me, gauges that are straight in front of the driver. The design is bold yet looks like an even more modern version of a Volvo. Since Polestar is a sporty company, the performance upgrades include upgraded shocks, brakes, and bigger wheels with Swedish gold seat belts. You get this package mainly for the gold seat belts. Is it pricey at over $60,000? Yes, but it feels justified for the 408 hp and range of 275 miles. 0-60 is said to be around 4.7 seconds but I suspect it will be lower. Will they sell Tesla Model 3 numbers of them? I highly doubt it since they area new brand, but it should be a great competitor to the Tesla Model 3.
      I like the concept of electric vehicles. I know that one day, there will be one charging at my house. Am I ready for an electric car? Yes. Is there any on the market that jumps out at me and gives me the satisfaction I have for my current car at a reasonable price of around $40,000 new? No.
      Do not get me wrong; there are electric cars that make sense for a multitude of situations. Range and charging are getting better, more features are getting added, and manufacturers are creating electric-only ranges of vehicles that will bring down the costs of more performance-oriented vehicles. I can go in-depth about certain electric cars in a future article. For now, I think I will keep my car and wait until something really catches my eye. That, or wait a few years and hope the Porsche Taycan depreciates enough that I can buy one.
       
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