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I knew this will make @dfelt to orgasm Very cool concept

As I near 30, it's a strange feeling to realize that many of you may remember this photo I originally posted here in 2005.

Have to say, this made me look at the Media Center and WOW, some awesome Camaro stories: Some great old cars with modern crate motors. https://media.chevrolet.com/media/us/en/chevrolet/home.detail.html/content/Pages/news/us/en/2018/oct/sema/1016-chevelle-crate.html The 2019 Camaro shock is very cool. https://media.chevrolet.com/media/us/en/chevrolet/home.detail.html/content/Pages/news/us/en/2018/oct/sema/1016-camaro-shock.html The new 2019 COPO Camaro is also cool, but WOW talk about hard to see out the glass on this. https://media.chevrolet.com/media/us/en/chevrolet/home.detail.html/content/Pages/news/us/en/2018/oct/sema/1029-copo.html Course the eCOPO Camaro is very cool and I see they do have a look at the engine bay. WOW, talk about throwing ICE hard cores for a loop. https://media.chevrolet.com/media/us/en/chevrolet/home.detail.html/content/Pages/news/us/en/2018/oct/sema/1029-e-copo.html I am sure @ocnblu will come in here and down vote everyone / everything and hate on all things EV.

Way cool concept. But I suspect the old-school Camaro fans will flip their gray mullet wigs over this.

Autoblog Another one for @dfelt "The Merc pairs an electric powertrain with an untouched-looking exterior, save the lowering and a few hard-to-spot details that point to its heavily modified character. Look underneath and you'd see a full Art Morrison custom frame. The patina, sometimes overdone, looks lovely here over the greyish green paint. A Derelict badge and one of Ward's signature lizard sculptures are apparent on closer inspection. Underneath the original gas cap is a cleverly placed Teslasupercharger connector, and behind the license plate is a CHAdeMO receptacle. Inside, lovely period-appropriate fabrics and leather set off the more involved details. Power windows operate via the original manual window cranks. Digital gauges made by Andromeda have a vintage design. A/C vents now perforate the dash but look like they could have been original. Same with the new switches, bezels and so forth, which operate modern components. The coolest part is under the hood. The battery controllers and some of the Tesla-sourced batteries (there's a full 85-kWh set of Tesla batteries spread around the car) are placed underhood and slightly resemble a V8 engine. The electric motors, which make roughly 470 lb-ft of torque and the equivalent of about 400 horsepower, reside where the traditional transmission would be. Even the underhood wiring gets a vintage-style woven cloth loom. The EV conversion was "co-engineered" by Icon and Stealth EV."

Toyota should be much more competitive than they are in full size trucks. With their resources they should be able to spend away and bury Ram, just like their car line has put FCA and Ford's car lines out of business. It is embarrassing how old the Tacoma and Tundra are, when those 2 should have all new versions every 6 years with hybrids and best in class quality, reliability and fuel economy.

They should have the steps in the front bumper also, for climbing up to check the oil, replace the air filter, etc.

Looks cool, but it's ruined underneath.

GM has been eating Mustang's breakfast for years my 90 Grand Prix STE Turbo ate ? body's all day and the Roadmaster did all night. But I get ya a lowered Burbon with that set up would be way too much fun ?

I'm not so sure about that Horse the way drag racing drive lines work now the transmission limits torque output to allow tires to grip and not go up into smoke. They use centrifical force to engage the clutch pack and add extra clamping force once it's fully engaged (I'm thinking that you knew that but was thinking of others) One things for sure this sure will add to a very expensive sport already ?

Wow..an electric motor mated to an old school racing Turbo 400 and solid rear axle. Surreal to think about.

I kinda like the tech of this, all driveline bolts up to a standard Chevy bell housing. Though other than reaction time at the light and maybe axle ratio's the races will be hundred thousands differentes I'm thinking that you won't see who's the winner other than the lights. So how many motors can be coupled together, I'm channeling Tommy Ivo!

Glad that the overall feedback is positive. The prior theme was just the default theme that ships with the software.

True, but Cadillac would need a new unibody RWD/AWD SUV platform if they were going to take on the GL, Cayenne, etc with a handling-oriented performance SUV..

How do you celebrate 50 years since the introduction of the original COPO Chevrolet Camaro drag car? If you're Chevrolet, you unveil a concept COPO Camaro with an electric powertrain. Today at the SEMA show in Las Vegas, Chevrolet introduced the eCOPO Camaro Concept. Developed with pioneering electric drag racing team Hancock and Lane Racing, the eCOPO uses an electric motor providing 700 horsepower and 600 pound-feet of torque. Chevrolet estimates that the eCOPO can do the quarter-mile in nine seconds. Beginning with a standard COPO Camaro, the V8 engine is swapped for an electric motor assembly comprised of two BorgWarner HVH 250-150 motors. This teamed with a Turbo 400 automatic transmission. In the trunk resides an all-new 800-volt battery pack that allows for "a more efficient power transfer to the electric motor and supports faster recharging." The battery pack is arranged in such a way to allow for a 44/56 front-to-rear weight ratio. What makes the eCOPO concept unique is the electric motor "has the same bell house mounting pattern and crankshaft flange" as Chevrolet's LS family of engines. This means you could swap the standard V8 engine for an electric powertrain without having to change other driveshaft components. “The possibilities are intriguing and suggest a whole new world for racers. Chevrolet pioneered the concept of the high-performance crate engine right around the time the original COPO Camaro models were created, and the eCOPO project points to a future that could include electric crate motors for racing, or even your street rod. We’re not there yet, but it’s something we’re exploring,” said Russ O’Blenes, director, Performance Variants, Parts and Motorsports at General Motors. H/T to @67impss for letting us know about the eCOPO Gallery: Chevrolet eCOPO Camaro Concept Source: Chevrolet eCOPO Camaro Race Car Concept Electrifies Drag Racing LAS VEGAS — Fifty years after the original COPO Camaro special order performance models were introduced, Chevrolet’s eCOPO Camaro Concept demonstrates an electrified vision for drag racing. Developed by General Motors and built in partnership with the pioneering electric drag racing team Hancock and Lane Racing, the concept race car — based on the 2019 COPO Camaro — is entirely electric powered, driven by an electric motor providing the equivalent of more than 700 horsepower and 600 lb-ft of torque. Chevrolet estimates quarter-mile times in the 9-second range. Testing is ongoing. “The eCOPO Concept is all about where we go in the future with electrification in the high performance space,” said Russ O’Blenes, director, Performance Variants, Parts and Motorsports at General Motors. “The original COPO Camaro program was all about pushing the envelope, and this concept is an exploration with the very same spirit.” Chevrolet partnered with Hancock and Lane Racing not only because of the team’s success in NHRA drag racing, but also its involvement with Patrick McCue, the driving force behind the record-holding “Shock and Awe” electric drag racing car, and his Seattle-area Bothell High School automotive technology program. With the racing team’s assistance, more than a dozen students participated in the development and assembly of the electrified drag car. “This project exemplifies Chevrolet and General Motors’ commitment to engaging young minds in STEM education,” said O’Blenes. “It also represents our goal of a world with zero emissions, with the next generation of engineers and scientists who will help us get there.” 800 volts Just as the original 1969 COPO Camaro models relied on creative engineering to make them successful in Stock Eliminator drag racing, the eCOPO breaks new ground with its unique motor and GM’s first 800-volt battery back. The electric motor is based on a pair of BorgWarner HVH 250-150 motor assemblies, each generating 300 lb-ft of torque, and replaces the gas engine. It is connected to a conventional racing-prepared “Turbo 400” automatic transmission that channels the motor’s torque to the same solid rear axle used in the production COPO Camaro race cars. The all-new 800-volt battery pack enables a more efficient power transfer to the electric motor and supports faster recharging, which is important for the limited time between elimination rounds in drag racing. “Eight hundred volts is more than twice the voltage of the battery packs in the production Chevrolet Volt and Bolt EV, so the eCOPO pushes into new technological territory,” says O’Blenes. “As GM advances its electrification leadership, a big step might just come from the drag strip.” The battery pack is composed of four 200-volt modules, each weighing approximately 175 pounds, mounted strategically in the car for optimal weight distribution. Two are located in the rear seat area and the other two are in the trunk: one in the spare tire well and the other in the area over the rear axle. A full Battery Management System monitors all critical voltages and temperatures within the pack. It ties into a comprehensive safety system that continuously evaluates all vehicle electrical components for proper function and safe operation. The batteries in the rear compartment are sealed off from the interior and an integrated driveshaft tunnel has been added between the modules for increased protection. Additionally, the roll cage in the trunk area has been expanded to provide additional protection for the rear-mounted modules. With the modules’ strategic positions, the eCOPO Camaro has greater than a 56 percent rear-weight bias, which helps launch the car more efficiently. Electric crate motors The eCOPO Camaro Concept expands Chevrolet and General Motors’ electrification development and supports future product development. It also suggests a potential new avenue for Chevrolet’s crate engine and performance parts portfolio. The eCOPO Camaro’s electric motor has the same bell house mounting pattern and crankshaft flange as the popular LS-family engines in Chevrolet’s crate engine portfolio. That allows it to bolt up to just about any General Motors transmission. In fact, the transmission, driveshaft and other drivetrain components remain in the same locations as in a gasoline-powered COPO Camaro race car, meaning the electric motor simply bolts into the engine compartment in place of the gas engine. “The possibilities are intriguing and suggest a whole new world for racers,” said O’Blenes. “Chevrolet pioneered the concept of the high-performance crate engine right around the time the original COPO Camaro models were created, and the eCOPO project points to a future that could include electric crate motors for racing, or even your street rod. We’re not there yet, but it’s something we’re exploring.” In the meantime, Chevrolet and Hancock and Lane Racing will continue to develop the eCOPO Camaro and test it on the drag strip, seeking quicker elapsed times with all-new technology. The eCOPO Concept, shown in Electric Blue, joins the 50th anniversary 2019 COPO Camaro production race car and approximately two dozen additional Chevrolet concepts and show vehicles at the SEMA Show in Las Vegas through Nov. 2. View full article

The problem is is that car buyers have had little loyalty to the domestics since the 1980s. CA most of all have bought into buying Japanese for nearly 40 years now; the rest of the USA followed suit about 10-15 years later depending on location. It is even worse with luxury vehicles.

Passed a completely dark car going the other way tonight- I believe it was one of those humpty nissans- no head, running or tails on. On a tree-lined street with only occasional cars, you'd think it'd be impossible to drive in the dark and not realize it.

Does anyone else who looked at the picture under the hood with the yellow cables think back to the Accell spark plug cables in the 70's? and the 800volt battery pack has to be code for a V8 package Z/...?

It is hard enough to find one that is not chopped, channeled, or otherwise distastefully customized. But to rip out its heart and drop in a soulless, whirring robot in its place is... unconscionable.

I think it is rather harass actually.

I agree and I think that Cadillac could offer an SUV above the Escalade that starts at $150k and goes up to $200k. And Grand Cherokee Hellcat, and Audi SQ7/SQ8, Range Rover SVR, and G63 (perhaps a GLS73) and Alfa Romeo is doing a 7 seat SUV that will have at least a 500 hp version, maybe the 600 hp hybrid shows up there too. Plus the Rolls Royce Cullinan and Ferrari is doing an SUV. This isn't so much a niche as it is fast growing segment. That is what the Omega platform should be for, there should be an SUV version of the CT6-V.

Um... No thank you. It's cool and all but not my cup of tea.

If you have been beating Ford products and especially Mustangs food and drink is on me if we ever get together. I was thinking more in general about EV in motorsports. This particular camaro is 1320 special. The only good Ford is one coming in second to a GM product....or a Subaru...or a Porsche...or...any number of other makes. Although with multiple entries the Mustang can come in twelfth for all I care....

Imagine using the space between the wheels for that 800V battery pack, equal to Porsche and dropping in the 700HP / 600 lb-ft of torque motor in my Suburban. Muttangs eat your heart out!

I'll have to find and scan a prom photo of me, my girlfriend(!!), and my black '85 Toronado.

In things like various authorizing and road racing venues quit race cars could allow more runs and races. Would also generate full torque from zero throttle so would be huge in autocross. I like this! Time to replace the ICE powertrain.

AWESOME eCOPO and Crate Electric Motors with an 800 Volt battery pack like what Porsche is doing will open up the doors wide to cleaner, less noisy racing. That would be awesome! Hopefully they will post pictures of the engine bay and battery pack.

Their volume could stay the exact same with the extra 25-50k, they'd still be making more cash.

Oh I know. I'm just saying they probably don't want to slap the V Series title to something and not have it a true V Series.

Not Toyota, but GMC. GMC's annual sales are very close to Ram. (I'm not lumping Chevy and GMC together).

It is possible. Although you can say that truck loyalty will tend to maintain the status quo.

Because that's the spirit of the V Series. Same reason Ford didn't want to slap ST badges on their Sport models. You can't just throw monster power at something and call it an AMG, M, RS, or V.

For some money yes but they still trail domestics and Japanese in terms of build quality imho.

There is definitely a small performance luxury SUV niche out there, with the Cayenne Turbo, Bentayga, Urus, GL63 AMG all over $100k and over 500hp. An Escalade V series could be a larger, more spacious but less handling-oriented alternative.

Packard X-24 ~

Ram sales have risen every year since the economy cratered in '09 and they moved 177K. 500,000 were sold in 2017. You've already seen Ram 'rising up the sales chart'.

This is the Chevy from last year.

Seems Hot Wheel on Nov 6th will re-release their original set of 16 cars that started it all: http://www.thedrive.com/news/24528/hot-wheels-to-re-release-its-original-series-of-16-cars Complete set will be sold for $499.99. Order now.

A guy a couple streets over has an old Camaro in his Halloween display this year..had a rustbucket '57 Chevy 2dr sedan last year.

Will have to hunt some pics down of my 87 Cavalier RS (been my name handle for two decades now) As it pretty close dates the pre dig era. Might still have that pic of it that I had on facebook.... ?

100% my feelings. The '19 Sierra looks GREAT but the 18' Silverado looks better than the '19.

Interesting question. I know I've seen a handful of recent Rams in person that had me fluttering. Some years/trims got pretty much everything 'right'. This is a fine-looking machine ~

Too stupid for you? ewCOPO. Lame to the nth degree.

Oh it "harasses" the Camaro legend alright. And it will soon be forgotten, gathering cobwebs in a corner, or better yet... crushed.