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Exactly why I built my own. But those cabinets are particularly ugly.

Yeah, not a fan of the kitchen, but I love the location on a bluff overlooking the river and woods...and all the glass..enough room to build another garage also.

Maybe Ford could get a badge-engineered Taurus from the new Arteon.

Actually i like both this and the olds from the other thread.... Or maybe as enthusiasts we should just be happy someone is still building large convertibles? I would be tickled pink if Cadillac were to build another large convertible. Bingo. And you are very right about Mercedes being the premier luxury car maker. As one of my co workers says...there is Mercedes and then there is every other car on the planet... I don't entirely agree with that sentiment, but don't entirely disagree with it either.

Perhaps homes in Moreland Hills have "more land." Just kidding. What's weird is how many of these homes are found in the eastern U.S. Dunwoody, on Atlanta's north end, sure had its share of Georgian colonials (known as "a five-four-and a door") but, then, there were some streets dominated by low slung ranch homes with this same type of rock cladding. I had to scratch my head and ask myself if I was in Atlanta or Ladera Heights (basically Los Angeles 90056). In Dunwoody, these homes weren't cheap, but they were fairly priced compared to some national norm. The Ladera Heights prices are not for the faint of heart.

A modern base spec fiesta is just as much of a pentalty box to drive.

For the price of the coffee she should vacuum the floors and cook you dinner.

Yes to gutting out the kitchen. Lowes pickled oak construction grade cabinets need to go. In my Ideal world basement would be saved for a monster model railroad. Currently eating Thai food with my daughter. Explained to the waitress that if I was being carried out on a stretcher after eating the curry it was probably spicy enough.

I definitely prefer a ranch, but I'd pass on that house. Entire approach to house is asphalt- not liking that. Deck ( re-seal every 2-3 years) & windows are nice but I'd gut out the kitchen. Would be nice to rip those numerous soffitts out, but they must be there for some reason. One of my customers bought their house in '16, she gutted the kitchen- white cabinets, pickled hardwood flooring, predominately white marble countertops. Looks fantastic. She has a great eye, did something I'd not seen before but I really liked : the entire first floor is one color- grey walls w/ white trim. It made me realize there's arguably an element of the schizophrenic to paint every room a different color.

That rocks! I wish I could find something like that here in Washington. I love the layout, the land, the whole thing is just awesome! Enough space for a decent workshop!

I still see white ones in recently remodeled and a couple friends of mine have either bought a home or painted theirs white. I'm a fan of a dark stain when it comes to wood. Don't paint wood.

Also consider Mercedes makes over $1.2 million in profit per hour, so all these models and variants must be a good thing. Lincoln, Cadillac, Acura, Infiniti, etc that have small lines don’t have that kind of cash flow and profit margin.

Only in Japan would you find Starbucks babes.

I just do not get paying millions to tear it down and rebuild. Some just have way too much money.

The sad thing about Atlanta was that when I lived there ranches like that were being torn down on a seeminly daily basis to build McMansions. People were paying at times a million dollars for a teardown. If you google westport now and teardown you can find ten and fifteen million dollar teardowns.

Well, if it gives Ford at least one other carin the line up, it would sure help! Both automakers are battered and weak, so sharing a few products for now would not be a bad thing.... I mean, how much worse of a car could it be than a 80s Ford Escort? Now that was bland......

You mean they don’t come with the coffee?

...and that is one reason their corporate identity is dilluted and I rant on endlessly so.

Not really a fan of too many paint colours in a home and the kitchen/baths could use a refresh but I do like it otherwise. Hopefully the windows are recent/energy efficient, would suck to move in and see them full of condensation all winter long.

And it's 2500 sq ft on the first floor, and 2300+ sq ft in the finished basement. Would be fun to set up a home theatre and hobby room down there.. I'd go for more MCM looking front doors in orange or red, with little rectangular windows set in...(which is what I'm thinking of for a new front door for my current house...my current front door is very generic).

Front doors and kitchen needs to go. Other than that, 8.75 out of ten. I would like it better if it were a little more edgy and contemporary. Could also do with real wood passage doors rather than the pressed fiber board doors.

Yeah...but Ford will really loose what is left of their American automotive identity if they start selling Euro Sedans as Fords. The bland nature of current product from most car makers is why I have moved back into being a railfan and a fan of vintage Woodworking tools from being an automotive fan. As an enthusiast getting excited about most of today's cars is nothing short of impossible. Either start building passionate interesting products or we really can go to an era of self driving appliances.

COG = I get the point your making, but my comment is what I feel spot on for the bug history that to me never really did it and I feel that same passion from that era continues today at that company. Maybe I would feel different if after WWII they had closed VW and required it to start up as another auto company name. My issue, point made and I understand what you are saying my friend. I get what your saying in regards to Ford. They had some amazing products, but the mass market versions of cars for the most point did underwhelm.

The exterior is not very attractive to me. The inside looks really nice but if it were mine, I'd like a darker wood for the kitchen. Pretty much everything else looks really awesome though.

My kitchen looks like it was remodeled maybe 15 years ago. it's cherry wood w/ beige corian beigish countertops, stainless steel appliances. It's ok, don't plan on remodeling anytime soon, other than replacing the light fixtures and adding a disposal. In keeping w/ the randomness, whilst browsing Trulia I found this home nearby that I absolutely love...great location, views, layout. https://www.trulia.com/p/oh/moreland-hills/120-skyline-dr-moreland-hills-oh-44022--2045327133

That's just about as wrong as interbreeding a cat and a dog and calling it a cog... When one needs to look 70 years back in the past to dislike something...hmmm...why not just say they are not your thing? no car is for everyone. The current generation, yes...but for Decades they built wickedly cool stuff. It's almost as after the late 1970's they took a Canadian snowstorm as inspiration for their products. Bland.

True, Henry Ford's cars underwhelm...

A little putty and a little paint make the old girl what she ain't.

Because a badge engeneered Routan Dodge van was such an amazing success. VW had a 39 month backlog/inventory at one point. Next up...the return of diesel and the air cooled bug.

I think we are past white kitchens, gray or black ones are in now. I'm not really a fan of gray ones either.

Kind of like that Corvette that was totaled for a small frame crack that was unreachable or something. A little JB Weld and duct tape and it'll be fine..;)

I generally don't like white vehicles, only thing white I dislike more are white kitchens. But a few cars look great in white, IMO...like vintage or modern Shelby Mustangs in white w/ blue stripes, or Porsche 911 RSes in white w/ red or green stripes and wheels.

Those had white trim, though..not black plastic crud. The work trucks of 40-50 years ago look much better than this pig, IMO. That doesn't look bad... the white w/ white trim doesn't look good to me, but I don't like most anything in white. White w/ black trim and black wheels looks revolting to me, but some people like it.

Oh definitely, the GMC looks way better all around but there's one body configuration that looks pretty good in Silverado clothes.

I have to agree, for the first time ever that does look nice. Still take a GMC over this, but for once the 2019 Chevy does look nice in this package. Playing with the configurator, this also looks good to me.

I'm sure they won't lose money on the 8 series..remember, this is a global product, not just dependent on US sales.

How much is it really costing though? GM makes a Corvette convertible of which probably 95% of them sell in the USA and no other GM car shares that chassis. The 8-series will sell in Europe and China (although low volume) and is on a chassis shared with other BMWs. Plus they will sell these for $130,000, I am sure they have profit margin baked in. This car is $50,000 more than a 550i which has the same powertrain, and is about the same size. I guarantee BMW isn't spending $50k on a convertible top and interior trimmings. Yes there is tooling and manufacturing costs, but the Germans have that figured out. Wouldn't surprise me if they made $20,000 per car on these.

Just don't drop an EV powertrain into this one.... ...and this is my gripe with Ford. Not that they are terrible...just that they never seem to live up to their potential with anything other than F series and Mustangs. I am from Ohio with the Cleveland Browns...I have lived with enough frustration for one lifetime. Although I am really more of a Steelers and Packers fan.

Although I love, love love the 56 Chevy also. I have owned a 55 two door post and a 57 two door hard top. If I ever get another vintage vehicle I think I want a truck. However....if I get a car...56 Chevy would be a serious consideration. Would give my right arm (well maybe not quite) for a 56 nomad. Or a convertible. Saw one as a model on display at the diner I ate at with friends for breakfast Sunday morning. There is a part of me that feels like you are the grumpy old guy (one of the two) from the Muppet Show. Don't worry, we still love you. If I can be partisan against Ford and Lincoln (modern Ford and Lincoln...vintage stuff, Trucks, mustangs are fantastic) you can be partisan against EV's. ...in a way that is as satisfying as Miley Cyrus reminding us she has girly bits with her racy photographs. Briefly enjoyable and then the stomach turns a bit.

A V8 luxury convertible is certainly more interesting than another boring CUV. BMW already has the CUV and SUV market well covered, they need a few coupes and convertibles. Given it's size, styling and V8 performance, think of the 8 as a German luxury Mustang..

eclat is an existing brand in BMX bike aftermarket, it looks like. Wasn't it also a '70s Lotus (the fastback version of the Elite?). As far as the original post, some interesting ideas. I do think a national standard/initiative would be good. Having a different set of standards in different states isn't good, it should be standardized for all states, IMO.

Is it worth the design, manufacturing, parts, certification, advertising, etc etc to build maybe 500 cars/yr tho? Or is BMW banking on taking a bath with the convert ( and perhaps the 8-series as a whole)?

That’s the point actually. To take make the die hard ‘vert fans pay dearly for their stubborn obsession with open top grand touring overcomplicated, bloated 4 seat coupes. Though Cadillac refuses to even try so hey, at least BMW can say what SMK mentioned, they can finally say they compete with Mercedes.

Trying --and failing-- to make a silk purse out of a (relative) sow's ear. The 1956 (Chevy-based) El Morocco ~

Ram looks almost mid-sized between the two. Silverado still coming out #1 in visual appeal, IMO...

Have a classic car calendar at work, November is 1950 Oldsmobile 88, what a beautiful car

Custom-bodied 1937 V-16 Cadillac, 1 of 2 V-16s exported to Switzerland that year, sitting in a field in soft decay, 1968 (since returned to the US and fully restored).

Someone has to remind you and others of the benefits of Green energy, auto's, homes, etc.

dfelt is like the Oprah of C&G... EVERY POST GETS AN EV! YOU GET AN EV, AND YOU GET AN EV... EVERYBODY GETS AN EV!